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besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

December 16 2010 14:28 GMT

Hello good people of TL.net

I was wondering is it possible to take a song and isolate just one instrument from it, like the keyboards, in any way.

Im wondering because I need certain keyboard tracks for songs my band is covering, and we don't have access to a keyboard player, so we would like to just play the keyboard track in the back as we play.

googling so far has only revealed how to cut out the vocals from the track.

Thank you for any advice or input.

hifriend

China7935 Posts

December 16 2010 14:44 GMT

You could play around with eq and cutoff but it won't sound great. It would be easier to replicate it with a synthesizer.

what songs exactly?

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

December 16 2010 14:54 GMT

well for now its Cloud Connected from In Flames, ive got some keyboards and I could try playing and recording it, but I don't have the same sound presets.

Starparty

Sweden1963 Posts

December 16 2010 15:00 GMT

this used to be impossible. However, nowdays there is a plug called Melodyne (DNA - Direct Note Access) that can actually do this for you.

hifriend

China7935 Posts

December 16 2010 15:39 GMT

On December 16 2010 23:54 besiger wrote:
well for now its Cloud Connected from In Flames, ive got some keyboards and I could try playing and recording it, but I don't have the same sound presets.

wait, the synth right in the beginning? Sounds like it continues throughout the track, so can't you just cut it out of the intro and loop it?

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

December 16 2010 15:52 GMT

well it goes through the entire track, but there are 3 synths in there, a lead, the background, and a synth bass, and even though they are basically always playing the same things there are parts where just the lead plays, then just the backing, and they switch that up, so Id have to cut it up pretty good.
And the guitars come in like 4 seconds after so I don't really have a clean version of the lead synth.

Well I guess worst case scenario the crowd wont care if we loop it through the song.

ava34

United Kingdom153 Posts

December 16 2010 15:57 GMT

Wow, that Melodyne program looks amazing. Ty for that starparty.

Navane

Netherlands2749 Posts

December 16 2010 16:03 GMT

Have you personal experience with it Starparty? I know it used to be a holy grail to achieve that. I'm still a bit sceptical.

Navane

Netherlands2749 Posts

December 16 2010 16:03 GMT

Also good luck playing to a synth loop and not getting out of sync.

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

December 16 2010 16:06 GMT

#10

heh, well, at least for me personally its easier to play to a loop because the loop cant mess up like a real player and you can always rely on it for timing.

And yeah Melodyne looks like it can do some amazing things, but would I already have to have all the tracks separated so I can manipulate them, or can I just import the whole song and they just copy the keyboard parts to a new file?

Gridlock

United Kingdom517 Posts

December 16 2010 16:32 GMT

#11

Melodyne DNA looks amazing - I can't help feel a little skeptical of it though, but what do I know!

No, you wouldn't need seperate tracks already if Melodyne DNA works - you would use it to seperate them and then delete all the other tracks and save just the keyboard, for example.

If Melodyne doesn't do what it says on the tin (or is too expensive!), can you get a MIDI of the song you need? You could load it in to a program like Cubase\Ableton Live\FL Studio, seperate the keyboard notes out, and assign any synth or keyboard instrument to it. If you can't get a MIDI, can you rewrite the melodies in MIDI yourself?

HwangjaeTerran

Finland5967 Posts

December 16 2010 18:09 GMT

#12

Does it have to sound exactly the same?
I mean it's your cover: make the song yours.

Melodyne sounds too good to be true oO

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