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maellestrom
United States194 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27102 Posts
On November 24 2010 12:44 te3l wrote: Don't say that, because of her there are now warning labels on mc donald coffee cups. Truly a hero of our generation *sarcasm* On November 24 2010 15:24 susySquark wrote: Reminds me of the lady who sued MacDonalds because she burned herself with their coffee. Yeah! Fuck her and the frivilous lawsuit that was preceded by more than 700 other burn victims. She was obviously trying to abuse the system and get rich quick. I mean, being 79 years old and all. Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US $20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800. I mean really, how bad can a cup of coffee be? she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds.[12] Two years of medical treatment followed. I love it when people pull out this example, because it is actually a pretty worthwhile lawsuit, rather than a frivolous one. | ||
ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On November 24 2010 15:02 Stoned wrote: doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out you can not use the legal system to get you money when you are not abiding by the legal system in the first place but im just a person on the internet that feels the need to give out pretend opinions on legal actions and such when i have no idea what im talking about but i can relate to "common sense" and i think this might fall under the category of "common sense" That isn't true though. There's a large body of law on "spring guns" where burglars have sued property owners for being injured by traps. On a more mundane level, trespassers have sued for tripping over things on land. If you try to mug someone and they respond with excessive force, you can sue them for damages. There's simply no requirement for obeying the law in order to file a lawsuit. Many aspects of the law are common sense, but others aren't. | ||
Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
You didn't drink responsibly. That was YOUR fault not 4 lokos. I hope nothing hpapens of this, or you sue and lose. | ||
ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On November 24 2010 16:18 ZlaSHeR wrote: You didn't drink responsibly. That was YOUR fault not 4 lokos. Right. It'd be a total joke to sue the manufacturers of Four Lokos. If you could sue an alcoholic beverage maker for you getting drunk and doing something stupid, every beer, wine, and liquor company on the planet would be out of business. That's common sense. Legally speaking, you wouldn't have standing to sue them because they didn't cause your injury. They sold a product to a retailer, retailer sold it to you (or someone else who gave it to you), you drank it, and then you did something stupid and hurt yourself. It's not like the drink itself was laced with poison. There may be other people in this story to sue though. Like... where did you get the drinks, how did you knock your teeth out, who put you in a mental institution, who put you on anti-psychotics, why were you on them for so long if the doctors agreed you weren't schizophrenic? | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 24 2010 08:29 VonLego wrote: You're the embodiment of everything that is wrong with our country and bring shame to TL. You win zero points, and my God have mercy on your soul. On November 24 2010 10:33 Risen wrote: Edit: I'd also like to add that people like you who do dumb shit and then sue are the reason the justice system is bogged down with trivial trash, and also the reason the law profession has been dragged through the mud. I don't even really know you all that well and I dislike you. Go look for a handout elsewhere, don't try to take someone else's hard earned money. On November 24 2010 16:18 ZlaSHeR wrote: No offense but thats just annoying, I hate this american attitude of sue every chance you have. You didn't drink responsibly. That was YOUR fault not 4 lokos. I hope nothing hpapens of this, or you sue and lose. All three of these posts pretty much sum my opinion. Hope you don't go through with this because you are wasting a lot of people's time because you can't handle your booze.... | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32025 Posts
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JackMcCoy
165 Posts
While I can’t offer you any advice on your specific case, I can comment on a hypothetical. Please note that this is in no way an offer of representation and, again, we’re just speaking hypothetically. If one were to become injured as a result of a combination of intoxication and, as we can see evidence of here in your post, stunning natural mental incapacity, there may be grounds for a suit to be filed. One would have to establish a pattern of willful negligence on the part of the defendants in their obvious disregard for the basic tenets of judicious care and ignorance of foresight with regard to how their actions would negatively affect the offspring. One would have to argue that the overwhelming ineptitude of the guardians that would result in the child’s tragic lack of common sense or social awareness could have been prevented by standard care, and that the child is not fundamentally flawed by mental deficiency. Should the guardians be able to offer proof of the child’s mental retardation, they would not be expected by a reasonable court to be held responsible for the child’s simple-mindedness. Personally, I think suing your parents for your own lack judgment or basic common sense is risky, but if you think you can prove that it was their mishandling of your childhood which led you to be this dysfunctional, I wish you the best of luck. If I’ve misunderstood the specifics of this hypothetical, I apologize; I was only commenting on what I could piece together from the fragmented original post. | ||
meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On November 24 2010 16:08 Manifesto7 wrote: Yeah! Fuck her and the frivilous lawsuit that was preceded by more than 700 other burn victims. She was obviously trying to abuse the system and get rich quick. I mean, being 79 years old and all. I mean really, how bad can a cup of coffee be? I love it when people pull out this example, because it is actually a pretty worthwhile lawsuit, rather than a frivolous one. A worthwhile lawsuit only in that the damage was extensive... and the payout was good. You shouldn't need to be told that a hot drink is hot. The woman suffered at the hands of her own stupidity, and I have a feeling all the warnings about the temperature of the drink in the world wouldn't have prevented what happened. | ||
BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
On November 25 2010 01:46 meeple wrote: A worthwhile lawsuit only in that the damage was extensive... and the payout was good. You shouldn't need to be told that a hot drink is hot. The woman suffered at the hands of her own stupidity, and I have a feeling all the warnings about the temperature of the drink in the world wouldn't have prevented what happened. Again, you mustn't have looked into the case. The problem was never the warnings about the coffee being hot. Everyone knows coffee is hot. The argument was that the coffee was required to be served by McDonald's up to 50° higher than it needed to be, and that in the event of an accident or spill the customer would not have enough time (2 seconds) to remove the coffee from their skin before getting deep-tissue burns. | ||
meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On November 25 2010 01:59 BroOd wrote: Again, you mustn't have looked into the case. The problem was never the warnings about the coffee being hot. Everyone knows coffee is hot. The argument was that the coffee was required to be served by McDonald's up to 50° higher than it needed to be, and that in the event of an accident or spill the customer would not have enough time (2 seconds) to remove the coffee from their skin before getting deep-tissue burns. I concede... it was ill-informed spouting... | ||
decafchicken
United States19918 Posts
On November 24 2010 08:53 emythrel wrote: in the UK this drink wouldn't even be considered dangerous lol. Vodka Redbull anyone? 35% alcohol 100% sugar and caffine I doubt you can buy 12 vodka redbulls for 5$ though. | ||
29 fps
United States5718 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On November 25 2010 08:44 decafchicken wrote: I doubt you can buy 12 vodka redbulls for 5$ though. The price isn't why it is supposedly dangerous, though. It's the mixture of stimulant and depressant. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On November 24 2010 08:43 Danzepol wrote: yes exactly. the root canals are only the begining. I basically lost a year of my life doing nothing but being a vegetable really. And of course that sounds ludicrous, but I do have multiple psychiatrists backing on that point. I'm not a lawyer, but if you lost a year of your life already, then what have you got to lose? Besides the legal fees, you should explore if other people are suing or make out a facebook page to find others, pool your money together etc and go for it, you couldn't do that shit in Korea, but since you're American and clearly something is wrong with you, and you have the option (possibly) gogo. Let the lawyer worry about the details, but just know, the legal fees could be significant, but why not just troll the internet first for cases like you, if the actual product has gotten banned...and you not suing aint going to stop all the other crazy useless lawsuits out there anyways...gogo! | ||
Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
On November 25 2010 01:39 JackMcCoy wrote: As a former District Attorney for New York County, my first and foremost advice to you, sir, is to stop seeking legal advice from the public. In many cases, the responses you receive may compel you to make your already unfortunate situation worse. While I can’t offer you any advice on your specific case, I can comment on a hypothetical. Please note that this is in no way an offer of representation and, again, we’re just speaking hypothetically. If one were to become injured as a result of a combination of intoxication and, as we can see evidence of here in your post, stunning natural mental incapacity, there may be grounds for a suit to be filed. One would have to establish a pattern of willful negligence on the part of the defendants in their obvious disregard for the basic tenets of judicious care and ignorance of foresight with regard to how their actions would negatively affect the offspring. One would have to argue that the overwhelming ineptitude of the guardians that would result in the child’s tragic lack of common sense or social awareness could have been prevented by standard care, and that the child is not fundamentally flawed by mental deficiency. Should the guardians be able to offer proof of the child’s mental retardation, they would not be expected by a reasonable court to be held responsible for the child’s simple-mindedness. Personally, I think suing your parents for your own lack judgment or basic common sense is risky, but if you think you can prove that it was their mishandling of your childhood which led you to be this dysfunctional, I wish you the best of luck. If I’ve misunderstood the specifics of this hypothetical, I apologize; I was only commenting on what I could piece together from the fragmented original post. LOLOLOL. Excellent post. | ||
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