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maellestrom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States194 Posts
November 24 2010 06:57 GMT
#61
The fact that you broke the law by consuming them underage makes u ineligible for any sort of damages if that's what u are asking. Even if you were of age, its your fault for drinking them.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 07:09:00
November 24 2010 07:08 GMT
#62
On November 24 2010 12:44 te3l wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 11:24 jalstar wrote:
This is nearly as bad as the mcdonalds coffee woman.


Don't say that, because of her there are now warning labels on mc donald coffee cups. Truly a hero of our generation *sarcasm*


On November 24 2010 15:24 susySquark wrote:
Reminds me of the lady who sued MacDonalds because she burned herself with their coffee.


Yeah! Fuck her and the frivilous lawsuit that was preceded by more than 700 other burn victims. She was obviously trying to abuse the system and get rich quick. I mean, being 79 years old and all.

Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US $20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800.


I mean really, how bad can a cup of coffee be?

she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds.[12] Two years of medical treatment followed.


I love it when people pull out this example, because it is actually a pretty worthwhile lawsuit, rather than a frivolous one.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 24 2010 07:08 GMT
#63
On November 24 2010 15:02 Stoned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 14:13 ShadowDrgn wrote:
You might have a slim chance of getting some basic legal advice on TL if you have a simple problem and provide enough details. Unfortunately, your situation seems rather convoluted and you didn't even tell us what state you live in.

Second, why do people on the Internet feel the need to give out pretend legal opinions when they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about?


doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out you can not use the legal system to get you money when you are not abiding by the legal system in the first place

but im just a person on the internet that feels the need to give out pretend opinions on legal actions and such when i have no idea what im talking about

but i can relate to "common sense" and i think this might fall under the category of "common sense"


That isn't true though. There's a large body of law on "spring guns" where burglars have sued property owners for being injured by traps. On a more mundane level, trespassers have sued for tripping over things on land. If you try to mug someone and they respond with excessive force, you can sue them for damages. There's simply no requirement for obeying the law in order to file a lawsuit. Many aspects of the law are common sense, but others aren't.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 24 2010 07:18 GMT
#64
No offense but thats just annoying, I hate this american attitude of sue every chance you have.

You didn't drink responsibly. That was YOUR fault not 4 lokos.

I hope nothing hpapens of this, or you sue and lose.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 07:35:54
November 24 2010 07:32 GMT
#65
On November 24 2010 16:18 ZlaSHeR wrote:
You didn't drink responsibly. That was YOUR fault not 4 lokos.


Right. It'd be a total joke to sue the manufacturers of Four Lokos. If you could sue an alcoholic beverage maker for you getting drunk and doing something stupid, every beer, wine, and liquor company on the planet would be out of business. That's common sense. Legally speaking, you wouldn't have standing to sue them because they didn't cause your injury. They sold a product to a retailer, retailer sold it to you (or someone else who gave it to you), you drank it, and then you did something stupid and hurt yourself. It's not like the drink itself was laced with poison.

There may be other people in this story to sue though. Like... where did you get the drinks, how did you knock your teeth out, who put you in a mental institution, who put you on anti-psychotics, why were you on them for so long if the doctors agreed you weren't schizophrenic?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 24 2010 07:36 GMT
#66
On November 24 2010 08:29 VonLego wrote:
You're the embodiment of everything that is wrong with our country and bring shame to TL.

You win zero points, and my God have mercy on your soul.


On November 24 2010 10:33 Risen wrote:
Edit: I'd also like to add that people like you who do dumb shit and then sue are the reason the justice system is bogged down with trivial trash, and also the reason the law profession has been dragged through the mud. I don't even really know you all that well and I dislike you. Go look for a handout elsewhere, don't try to take someone else's hard earned money.


On November 24 2010 16:18 ZlaSHeR wrote:
No offense but thats just annoying, I hate this american attitude of sue every chance you have.

You didn't drink responsibly. That was YOUR fault not 4 lokos.

I hope nothing hpapens of this, or you sue and lose.


All three of these posts pretty much sum my opinion.

Hope you don't go through with this because you are wasting a lot of people's time because you can't handle your booze....
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32107 Posts
November 24 2010 16:14 GMT
#67
You are the reason I want 4loko to remain legal: Free gene pool cleansing.
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JackMcCoy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
165 Posts
November 24 2010 16:39 GMT
#68
As a former District Attorney for New York County, my first and foremost advice to you, sir, is to stop seeking legal advice from the public. In many cases, the responses you receive may compel you to make your already unfortunate situation worse.

While I can’t offer you any advice on your specific case, I can comment on a hypothetical. Please note that this is in no way an offer of representation and, again, we’re just speaking hypothetically.

If one were to become injured as a result of a combination of intoxication and, as we can see evidence of here in your post, stunning natural mental incapacity, there may be grounds for a suit to be filed. One would have to establish a pattern of willful negligence on the part of the defendants in their obvious disregard for the basic tenets of judicious care and ignorance of foresight with regard to how their actions would negatively affect the offspring.

One would have to argue that the overwhelming ineptitude of the guardians that would result in the child’s tragic lack of common sense or social awareness could have been prevented by standard care, and that the child is not fundamentally flawed by mental deficiency. Should the guardians be able to offer proof of the child’s mental retardation, they would not be expected by a reasonable court to be held responsible for the child’s simple-mindedness.

Personally, I think suing your parents for your own lack judgment or basic common sense is risky, but if you think you can prove that it was their mishandling of your childhood which led you to be this dysfunctional, I wish you the best of luck. If I’ve misunderstood the specifics of this hypothetical, I apologize; I was only commenting on what I could piece together from the fragmented original post.
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 24 2010 16:46 GMT
#69
On November 24 2010 16:08 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 12:44 te3l wrote:
On November 24 2010 11:24 jalstar wrote:
This is nearly as bad as the mcdonalds coffee woman.


Don't say that, because of her there are now warning labels on mc donald coffee cups. Truly a hero of our generation *sarcasm*


Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 15:24 susySquark wrote:
Reminds me of the lady who sued MacDonalds because she burned herself with their coffee.


Yeah! Fuck her and the frivilous lawsuit that was preceded by more than 700 other burn victims. She was obviously trying to abuse the system and get rich quick. I mean, being 79 years old and all.

Show nested quote +
Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US $20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800.


I mean really, how bad can a cup of coffee be?

Show nested quote +
she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds.[12] Two years of medical treatment followed.


I love it when people pull out this example, because it is actually a pretty worthwhile lawsuit, rather than a frivolous one.


A worthwhile lawsuit only in that the damage was extensive... and the payout was good. You shouldn't need to be told that a hot drink is hot. The woman suffered at the hands of her own stupidity, and I have a feeling all the warnings about the temperature of the drink in the world wouldn't have prevented what happened.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 24 2010 16:59 GMT
#70
On November 25 2010 01:46 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 16:08 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 24 2010 12:44 te3l wrote:
On November 24 2010 11:24 jalstar wrote:
This is nearly as bad as the mcdonalds coffee woman.


Don't say that, because of her there are now warning labels on mc donald coffee cups. Truly a hero of our generation *sarcasm*


On November 24 2010 15:24 susySquark wrote:
Reminds me of the lady who sued MacDonalds because she burned herself with their coffee.


Yeah! Fuck her and the frivilous lawsuit that was preceded by more than 700 other burn victims. She was obviously trying to abuse the system and get rich quick. I mean, being 79 years old and all.

Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US $20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800.


I mean really, how bad can a cup of coffee be?

she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds.[12] Two years of medical treatment followed.


I love it when people pull out this example, because it is actually a pretty worthwhile lawsuit, rather than a frivolous one.


A worthwhile lawsuit only in that the damage was extensive... and the payout was good. You shouldn't need to be told that a hot drink is hot. The woman suffered at the hands of her own stupidity, and I have a feeling all the warnings about the temperature of the drink in the world wouldn't have prevented what happened.

Again, you mustn't have looked into the case. The problem was never the warnings about the coffee being hot. Everyone knows coffee is hot. The argument was that the coffee was required to be served by McDonald's up to 50° higher than it needed to be, and that in the event of an accident or spill the customer would not have enough time (2 seconds) to remove the coffee from their skin before getting deep-tissue burns.
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 24 2010 18:19 GMT
#71
On November 25 2010 01:59 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 01:46 meeple wrote:
On November 24 2010 16:08 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 24 2010 12:44 te3l wrote:
On November 24 2010 11:24 jalstar wrote:
This is nearly as bad as the mcdonalds coffee woman.


Don't say that, because of her there are now warning labels on mc donald coffee cups. Truly a hero of our generation *sarcasm*


On November 24 2010 15:24 susySquark wrote:
Reminds me of the lady who sued MacDonalds because she burned herself with their coffee.


Yeah! Fuck her and the frivilous lawsuit that was preceded by more than 700 other burn victims. She was obviously trying to abuse the system and get rich quick. I mean, being 79 years old and all.

Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US $20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800.


I mean really, how bad can a cup of coffee be?

she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds.[12] Two years of medical treatment followed.


I love it when people pull out this example, because it is actually a pretty worthwhile lawsuit, rather than a frivolous one.


A worthwhile lawsuit only in that the damage was extensive... and the payout was good. You shouldn't need to be told that a hot drink is hot. The woman suffered at the hands of her own stupidity, and I have a feeling all the warnings about the temperature of the drink in the world wouldn't have prevented what happened.

Again, you mustn't have looked into the case. The problem was never the warnings about the coffee being hot. Everyone knows coffee is hot. The argument was that the coffee was required to be served by McDonald's up to 50° higher than it needed to be, and that in the event of an accident or spill the customer would not have enough time (2 seconds) to remove the coffee from their skin before getting deep-tissue burns.


I concede... it was ill-informed spouting...
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20109 Posts
November 24 2010 23:44 GMT
#72
On November 24 2010 08:53 emythrel wrote:
in the UK this drink wouldn't even be considered dangerous lol.

Vodka Redbull anyone? 35% alcohol 100% sugar and caffine


I doubt you can buy 12 vodka redbulls for 5$ though.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
November 25 2010 00:10 GMT
#73
blaming someone else for your own problems/faults is the way things go in america... just look at all those tobacco industry and mcdonalds lawsuits.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 25 2010 02:15 GMT
#74
On November 25 2010 08:44 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 08:53 emythrel wrote:
in the UK this drink wouldn't even be considered dangerous lol.

Vodka Redbull anyone? 35% alcohol 100% sugar and caffine


I doubt you can buy 12 vodka redbulls for 5$ though.

The price isn't why it is supposedly dangerous, though. It's the mixture of stimulant and depressant.
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
November 25 2010 02:34 GMT
#75
On November 24 2010 08:43 Danzepol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 08:39 mptj wrote:
I think you guys are misunerstanding. He was put on medicine for a condition he doesn't have. I do not think he wants to sue because he got drunk, but rather because the medication and institutions he was put in. Just IMO



yes exactly. the root canals are only the begining. I basically lost a year of my life doing nothing but being a vegetable really. And of course that sounds ludicrous, but I do have multiple psychiatrists backing on that point.


I'm not a lawyer, but if you lost a year of your life already, then what have you got to lose? Besides the legal fees, you should explore if other people are suing or make out a facebook page to find others, pool your money together etc and go for it, you couldn't do that shit in Korea, but since you're American and clearly something is wrong with you, and you have the option (possibly) gogo. Let the lawyer worry about the details, but just know, the legal fees could be significant, but why not just troll the internet first for cases like you, if the actual product has gotten banned...and you not suing aint going to stop all the other crazy useless lawsuits out there anyways...gogo!
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 25 2010 02:39 GMT
#76
On November 25 2010 01:39 JackMcCoy wrote:
As a former District Attorney for New York County, my first and foremost advice to you, sir, is to stop seeking legal advice from the public. In many cases, the responses you receive may compel you to make your already unfortunate situation worse.

While I can’t offer you any advice on your specific case, I can comment on a hypothetical. Please note that this is in no way an offer of representation and, again, we’re just speaking hypothetically.

If one were to become injured as a result of a combination of intoxication and, as we can see evidence of here in your post, stunning natural mental incapacity, there may be grounds for a suit to be filed. One would have to establish a pattern of willful negligence on the part of the defendants in their obvious disregard for the basic tenets of judicious care and ignorance of foresight with regard to how their actions would negatively affect the offspring.

One would have to argue that the overwhelming ineptitude of the guardians that would result in the child’s tragic lack of common sense or social awareness could have been prevented by standard care, and that the child is not fundamentally flawed by mental deficiency. Should the guardians be able to offer proof of the child’s mental retardation, they would not be expected by a reasonable court to be held responsible for the child’s simple-mindedness.

Personally, I think suing your parents for your own lack judgment or basic common sense is risky, but if you think you can prove that it was their mishandling of your childhood which led you to be this dysfunctional, I wish you the best of luck. If I’ve misunderstood the specifics of this hypothetical, I apologize; I was only commenting on what I could piece together from the fragmented original post.


LOLOLOL. Excellent post.
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