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SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 03:55 GMT
#1
Well I gotta say, obviously Im a Texas Rangers Fan. But honestly could you write a better story, honestly, even on the hallmark channel you could not right this stuff! A team that was earlier this year in bankruptcy forced to sell this team, yet somehow still able to pick up key players such as Cliff Lee. Biggest payroll difference in playoff history. Literally Michael Young, the highest paid player on the Rangers, paid 13 million a year is paid as much as the eighth highest paid player on the Yankees. Overall the Yankees team is paid 100 million dollars more than the Rangers. First World Series appearance in history, which there were a lot of firsts for the Texas Rangers- first home victory in the playoffs *which didnt even come until the second round. The first series to have both teams have only wins on the road. From Josh Hamiliton's comeback from drug usage to all the Yankee players who were confirmed steroid users including Pedit and Arod (or as i like to call him A-Roid). So many things, I cant even express my exhilaration, i mean it honestly feellike it was fate especially considering the last out to end the game was against A-rod the highest paid player in MLB history at the time, *only to find out that he was in-fact using performance enhancing drugs at the time* cough cough, steriods.* They are truly a team that has overcome against all odds, and fought their way to make it to the world series and will continue to fight. Whether the rangers win or lose, nobody can take this away from us.

*****
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 23 2010 04:00 GMT
#2
BASEBALL

GRATS RANGERS, and like I said in the playoffs thread, I'm hoping for a West-exclusive World Series now~
Translator:3
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 04:09:07
October 23 2010 04:02 GMT
#3
and do you think Vlad and other rangers havent used steroids?

If you're going to shit on one of the best playoff pitchers, at least pay him the kindness of spelling Pettitte somewhat correctly.

and lastly, A-rod tested positive back when he was on the rangers.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 23 2010 04:09 GMT
#4
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Flames
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States105 Posts
October 23 2010 04:09 GMT
#5
I'm waiting for the Giants to make it. ^^ Should be a good series, though Giants must win! D: Gotta make up for 2002.
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. I reject your reality and substitute my own!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 04:18:13
October 23 2010 04:11 GMT
#6
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.



to add on:
not to mention half the yankees talent comes from people that have grown up in the yankees. I.E. mariano, pettitte, hughes, jeter, cano and gardner to a lesser extent... having a few of the highest played players != buying wins.

</defending>

im happy for hamilton. I think thats about the only player I like on the rangers. =\.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 04:34 GMT
#7
On October 23 2010 13:02 Gene wrote:
and do you think Vlad and other rangers havent used steroids?

If you're going to shit on one of the best playoff pitchers, at least pay him the kindness of spelling Pettitte somewhat correctly.

and lastly, A-rod tested positive back when he was on the rangers.


A. Haven't heard anything on the list that came about about Vlad, and until it does I think it's innocent until proven guilty. Also, sorry i don't know how to spell talentless losers such as im sorry *Pettitte who won 16 of their 19 playoff games or whatever USING STERIODS.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 04:41 GMT
#8
B. I have to admit in the past some ranger such as Rafael Palimero and Juan Gonzalez or however you spell it, but im talking about those that still arent in the league. Breaking records that should be marked with an asterix for bullshit because they did it using steriods, cough cough pettitty and aroid
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 04:47:32
October 23 2010 04:46 GMT
#9
vlad used the same trainer as arod, was a hero at the plate until the mitchell report came out. probably a coincidence.



At least you arent discrimnatory in your disregard for respecting players enough to spell their names right. and lol talentless. You really dont even follow baseball, do you? And to use steroids for one year(Allegedly. If Vlad is innocent, I get to stick to the one time occurrence idea loool.) and call their accomplishments meaningless is just ignorance or jealousy, I think.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
October 23 2010 04:51 GMT
#10
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


The yankees will compete over a longer period of time

just sayin
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 04:55:27
October 23 2010 04:54 GMT
#11
On October 23 2010 13:51 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


The yankees will compete over a longer period of time

just sayin

Yeah... I don't think there's any real advantage to having a smaller payroll... common sense.

There is an inherent flaw in how professional sports works here. Salary caps that other sports use have some merit but doesn't 'solve' the problems completely.

On October 23 2010 13:34 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 13:02 Gene wrote:
and do you think Vlad and other rangers havent used steroids?

If you're going to shit on one of the best playoff pitchers, at least pay him the kindness of spelling Pettitte somewhat correctly.

and lastly, A-rod tested positive back when he was on the rangers.


A. Haven't heard anything on the list that came about about Vlad, and until it does I think it's innocent until proven guilty. Also, sorry i don't know how to spell talentless losers such as im sorry *Pettitte who won 16 of their 19 playoff games or whatever USING STERIODS.

If you goal is to convince someone of something, this post is not the way to do it. Being reasonable is usually a pre-requisite for making a good point.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 05:03:12
October 23 2010 05:00 GMT
#12
On October 23 2010 13:54 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 13:51 Saturnize wrote:
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


The yankees will compete over a longer period of time

just sayin

Yeah... I don't think there's any real advantage to having a smaller payroll... common sense.

There is an inherent flaw in how professional sports works here. Salary caps that other sports use have some merit but doesn't 'solve' the problems completely.

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 13:34 SlayerOfYou wrote:
On October 23 2010 13:02 Gene wrote:
and do you think Vlad and other rangers havent used steroids?

If you're going to shit on one of the best playoff pitchers, at least pay him the kindness of spelling Pettitte somewhat correctly.

and lastly, A-rod tested positive back when he was on the rangers.


A. Haven't heard anything on the list that came about about Vlad, and until it does I think it's innocent until proven guilty. Also, sorry i don't know how to spell talentless losers such as im sorry *Pettitte who won 16 of their 19 playoff games or whatever USING STERIODS.

If you goal is to convince someone of something, this post is not the way to do it. Being reasonable is usually a pre-requisite for making a good point.


I have to agree, it has proved meaningless in this series, but the yankees literally try to buy every best player at their respective positions, and they still lost to a team who was in bankruptcy earlier this year. The Yankees are a joke, just like their fans who left early in two of the home games we played against them. I even heard a Ranger Chant in the new stadium, the Yankee Faithful my ass.

PS. I am sorry that my master debater skills have lapsed in this argument i admit i have been celebrating tonight. lol =)
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 05:08:31
October 23 2010 05:06 GMT
#13
they didnt buy anyone for their every day: left fielder, shortstop, and second baseman

if they were going for best they probably wouldnt have: granderson, swisher, or posada.

lol about the chanting. Because there arent Yankee fans, Ranger fans, even Cubs fans all over the country. Can you just admit to me you're only a baseball fan because the rangers finally made the world series so I can fully understand where you are coming from? Then this is all entirely excusable.

Andy admitted to using HGH, and allegedly it was two instances, over two days, in one season. Pleeasse. Fans leave early everywhere. Almost everything you say is loony.

Thinking about it, the only "bests" they have, thanks to their buying power, is CC Arod and Tex. And Burnett use to be a top tier pitcher but uhhh yeahh.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 05:15:24
October 23 2010 05:14 GMT
#14
i apologize in advance for what is definitely a dig. But it sounds like you're just repeating an argument you heard someone else poorly try to get across while throwing in personal experience to validate it that is largely irrelevant to it. If thats not hitting the nail on the head, then I sincerely apologize.

otherwise, congrats. I hope the Rangers take it, because screw the Phillies and the Giants.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 05:17 GMT
#15
On October 23 2010 14:06 Gene wrote:
they didnt buy anyone for their every day: left fielder, shortstop, and second baseman

if they were going for best they probably wouldnt have: granderson, swisher, or posada.

lol about the chanting. Because there arent Yankee fans, Ranger fans, even Cubs fans all over the country. Can you just admit to me you're only a baseball fan because the rangers finally made the world series so I can fully understand where you are coming from? Then this is all entirely excusable.

Andy admitted to using HGH, and allegedly it was two instances, over two days, in one season. Pleeasse. Fans leave early everywhere. Almost everything you say is loony.

Thinking about it, the only "bests" they have, thanks to their buying power, is CC Arod and Tex. And Burnett use to be a top tier pitcher but uhhh yeahh.


Yeah, and any maphacker can say they used a map hack once and never again, and still this cant be proven for only so much factually. No, i hate/love to admit ive been long time Ranger fan. And im sorry you are all butt hurt that your team has gone fishing as barkley would say, but damn not even u, a yankees fan, are stupid enough to truly think that Pettitty only 'took steriods' over the course of two games. People are ignorant to take his sweet southern accent, religious familial stereotypical response as evidence that he can be trusted. I dont care how sincere he sounded in his apology and admission. Any person with enough money can be trained in the psychology of body language and public speaking skills to be trained in a public apology. Lawl
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 05:25:22
October 23 2010 05:22 GMT
#16
im not butthurt about anything, i've seen my fair share of world series wins. You might have picked up on that when I said I'm rooting for the Rangers in the world series. I find Josh Hamilton to be an inspiration.

You call me ignorant and dismiss the possibility of vlad taking steroids? I dont believe it was a two time occurence, sorry to take away the satisfaction of thinking me stupid. I was proposing as believable a story as you saying vlad is innocent. I thought that was obvious. You'll have to excuse me, as I am also drinking, though less celebratory now that the game is over loool.

But I appreciate you're skillful dodge of replying to the bulk of my post in relation to your accusation of the yankees buying the best players in the league.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 05:30 GMT
#17
Alright, I will stop with the low blows to the Yankee fans, and i apologize for my responses that have proven less then tasteful. I admit I am not as used to this sensation as the typical fan, as it is our first World Series appearance in history. I am just celebrating and once again I apologize if I have been less than tactful in some of my responses.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
October 23 2010 05:41 GMT
#18
err i didnt mean to bully you into apologizing :\ good luccckkk with the world series. I cant watch cause my cable provider didnt sign a contract to renew Fox looool.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 05:43 GMT
#19
p.s. I agree, Hamilton is an inspiration to any young fan of Major League Baseball. One of the few left that are even respectable. I admit that even though I might not always like the Yankees, I do at least not totally hate Jeter, although with all the obscenities i've yelled at my t.v. the last week or so one might not know it. lol
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 23 2010 05:45 GMT
#20
Damn you time warner/ direct t.v. i keep hearing ads on the radio about that but i forget which one is the culprit. god that sucks, how are you going to watch MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL!
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
October 23 2010 06:07 GMT
#21
Screw the 45 trillion dollar mortgage bailout that's coming up by 2012, the Rangers are in the World Series. That's all i'm going to pay attention to. I'm going to paint myself and drink tons of beer when I go to the home games.
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
October 23 2010 06:15 GMT
#22
On October 23 2010 15:07 tryummm wrote:
Screw the 45 trillion dollar mortgage bailout that's coming up by 2012, the Rangers are in the World Series. That's all i'm going to pay attention to. I'm going to paint myself and drink tons of beer when I go to the home games.


Words to live by, I live close to Dallas, had I known they were going to make to the World Series, I would gotten tickets T_T
Overdosed--www.overdosed.net
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
October 23 2010 06:16 GMT
#23
On October 23 2010 13:46 Gene wrote:
vlad used the same trainer as arod, was a hero at the plate until the mitchell report came out. probably a coincidence.

Uhhh...Vlad has been steadily tailing off since about 2005, well before the Mitchell report. Sure, he's on HGH like everyone else in the MLB, but it's a reach to suggest steroids without evidence when the astroturf obviously made a large contribution.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 06:34:56
October 23 2010 06:34 GMT
#24
cliff lee #1

dumb phillies! T_T
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 23 2010 06:46 GMT
#25
First off I'm not really a baseball fan and I live in Michigan.

I was at the bar earlier tonight around 930pm and there were 5yankee fans there watching the game very intensely. I think it was the 6th or 7th where the Rangers had bases loaded with a 1-1 game and then they started breaking it open. The Yankee fans were very displeased with what was happening and having had a few drinks in me I decided it would be the appropriate time to shout out, "Money doesn't buy championships." I didn't get more then a few words and some stern glares from the females, but I still hold true to that sentiment. I just can't respect a team like that,

Congrats to the Rangers though and congrats to you.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 23 2010 06:49 GMT
#26
On October 23 2010 14:30 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Alright, I will stop with the low blows to the Yankee fans, and i apologize for my responses that have proven less then tasteful. I admit I am not as used to this sensation as the typical fan, as it is our first World Series appearance in history. I am just celebrating and once again I apologize if I have been less than tactful in some of my responses.


True yankees fans enjoy the low blows and the hatred. It's been 1 years since their last world series, so sour grapes still exhonerates them from taunting other fans and other fans sniping at them.

And thankfully, it's taken the bullseye away from Boston's poor Red Sox (thanks bandwagon nation!) and back to where it rightfully belongs.

95-Year-Old Yankees Fan Afraid He'll Never Get To See Team Win 27 More World Series
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
October 23 2010 06:54 GMT
#27
It will be awfully tough to beat Cliff Lee in the World Series. The Phillies will have a chance with their rotation, but they might lose to the Giants.
Surrealz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States449 Posts
October 23 2010 08:04 GMT
#28
I find it hilarious that people are talking more of the yankees losing than the rangers winning.

sigh, sports fans..
1a2a3a
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 23 2010 08:07 GMT
#29
YEAHHHHH YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY I AM.
I have waited wayyyy too long for this.. I am so happy about it. They are just such a great team right now. Cant wait for the rangers to finally win their first world series
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 23 2010 14:14 GMT
#30
On October 23 2010 17:04 Surrealz wrote:
I find it hilarious that people are talking more of the yankees losing than the rangers winning.

sigh, sports fans..

Yeah all the low blows are pretty pathetic... and especially the ones that apparently were said to innocent yankee fans IRL ._.

"YOU CAN'T BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS LOLOLOLOL"

Yankee fans: "wow you are right... you have inspired me to demand that my team spend less of its money on player salaries and instead give it to the shareholders!!!"
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 14:25:21
October 23 2010 14:23 GMT
#31
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


Coming from a usually reasonable man this is kind of surprising. Yankees are constantly a favorite, them losing speaks a ton about their determination, coaching and bad planning rather than about the money not influencing the outcome. Come on, they will possibly sign Cliff Lee just like they did with Teixeira (unless Sox go all out to get him) and not just become stronger by a huge margin but also weaken the Rangers that most likely won't make it this far the following season. Tampa Bay can't ever keep their key players, same with every small market team out there. If you watch soccer you would know that having the dream team doesn't always mean winning everything but it sure helps. Real Madrid, MU or Barca are some of the great examples.

Consistency and ability to maintain the results are the key here.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 23 2010 14:27 GMT
#32
On October 23 2010 23:23 News wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


Coming from a usually reasonable man this is kind of surprising. Yankees are constantly a favorite, them losing speaks a ton about their determination, coaching and bad planning rather than about the money not influencing the outcome. Come on, they will possibly sign Cliff Lee just like they did with Teixeira (unless Sox go all out to get him) and not just become stronger by a huge margin but also weaken the Rangers that most likely won't make it this far the following season. Tampa Bay can't ever keep their key players, same with every small market team out there. If you watch soccer you would know that having the dream team doesn't always mean winning everything but it sure helps. Real Madrid, MU or Barca are some of the great examples.

Consistency and ability to maintain the results are the key here.

I'm not totally sure what you are disagreeing with here despite implying that I said something you find very wrong...

"determination, coaching and bad planning" are not necessarily what lost them this series or any other that they lost. Yes I agree they are usually a favorite.

I find lots of people bashing on the Yankees all the time but usually the complaints aren't legit so I'm forced to defend the Yankees even though I don't particularly care for them much one way or the other.

"THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST SALARY AND THEY STILL LOST" is not a legitimate complaint.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
October 23 2010 14:35 GMT
#33
Damn, the Yankees lost. BAH!!!!

Well, here's to hoping that Phillies lose
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
October 23 2010 14:40 GMT
#34
On October 23 2010 23:27 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 23:23 News wrote:
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


Coming from a usually reasonable man this is kind of surprising. Yankees are constantly a favorite, them losing speaks a ton about their determination, coaching and bad planning rather than about the money not influencing the outcome. Come on, they will possibly sign Cliff Lee just like they did with Teixeira (unless Sox go all out to get him) and not just become stronger by a huge margin but also weaken the Rangers that most likely won't make it this far the following season. Tampa Bay can't ever keep their key players, same with every small market team out there. If you watch soccer you would know that having the dream team doesn't always mean winning everything but it sure helps. Real Madrid, MU or Barca are some of the great examples.

Consistency and ability to maintain the results are the key here.

I'm not totally sure what you are disagreeing with here despite implying that I said something you find very wrong...

"determination, coaching and bad planning" are not necessarily what lost them this series or any other that they lost. Yes I agree they are usually a favorite.

I find lots of people bashing on the Yankees all the time but usually the complaints aren't legit so I'm forced to defend the Yankees even though I don't particularly care for them much one way or the other.

"THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST SALARY AND THEY STILL LOST" is not a legitimate complaint.


Well you are from NY, that's why you have to defend them, but being a huge favorite and still losing is always an underachievement. No matter how you put it, having this huge salary cap allowed Yankees to be dominant in baseball for as long as one can remember. They have their off-seasons here and there but you always go to a Yankee game in NY expecting a win. If one team can get all the best players how does that not affect the game? Baseball being the great game it is doesn't always guarantee bully a win but really, who would have thought Sox would win in 04? My main point is that being able to buy the best players not only makes Yankees stronger, it hurts every other team that either loses their top player to Yanks or can't compete with them trying to become stronger.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 23 2010 14:46 GMT
#35
On October 23 2010 23:40 News wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 23:27 micronesia wrote:
On October 23 2010 23:23 News wrote:
On October 23 2010 13:09 micronesia wrote:
I have almost no idea what former use of performance enhancing drugs has to do with this blog and yet you seem to spend the majority of your time talking about it with regard to the Yankees...

This playoff shows once again that having a very highly paid team doesn't in any way guarantee wins in the MLB.


Coming from a usually reasonable man this is kind of surprising. Yankees are constantly a favorite, them losing speaks a ton about their determination, coaching and bad planning rather than about the money not influencing the outcome. Come on, they will possibly sign Cliff Lee just like they did with Teixeira (unless Sox go all out to get him) and not just become stronger by a huge margin but also weaken the Rangers that most likely won't make it this far the following season. Tampa Bay can't ever keep their key players, same with every small market team out there. If you watch soccer you would know that having the dream team doesn't always mean winning everything but it sure helps. Real Madrid, MU or Barca are some of the great examples.

Consistency and ability to maintain the results are the key here.

I'm not totally sure what you are disagreeing with here despite implying that I said something you find very wrong...

"determination, coaching and bad planning" are not necessarily what lost them this series or any other that they lost. Yes I agree they are usually a favorite.

I find lots of people bashing on the Yankees all the time but usually the complaints aren't legit so I'm forced to defend the Yankees even though I don't particularly care for them much one way or the other.

"THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST SALARY AND THEY STILL LOST" is not a legitimate complaint.


Well you are from NY, that's why you have to defend them, but being a huge favorite and still losing is always an underachievement. No matter how you put it, having this huge salary cap allowed Yankees to be dominant in baseball for as long as one can remember. They have their off-seasons here and there but you always go to a Yankee game in NY expecting a win. If one team can get all the best players how does that not affect the game? Baseball being the great game it is doesn't always guarantee bully a win but really, who would have thought Sox would win in 04? My main point is that being able to buy the best players not only makes Yankees stronger, it hurts every other team that either loses their top player to Yanks or can't compete with them trying to become stronger.

No me being from new york doesn't mean I have to defend them. I mean I could be a huge Mets fan and hate the Yankees for one (a lot of my friends do). Personally I don't care very much for either team.

How huge of a favorite were they in this series, and what determined this?

What do you mean you always go to a Yankee game in NY expecting a win? So for example a 60% chance of winning gets rounded up to 100% in the expectations of a Yankee fan but the 40% chance of winning of another team stays right where it is?

The Yankees do not have all the best players.

Getting players who have proven to be more skillful on other teams does not automatically make the Yankees much stronger.

Don't forget, I don't have a problem with the concept that the way the MLB (and most sports) work is rather flawed and the Yankees take advantage of their superior financial backing in ways that most teams cannot. But 85% of the accusations against the Yankees are wrong/misleading.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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Last Edited: 2010-10-23 14:59:11
October 23 2010 14:58 GMT
#36
Well I agree, this talk can boil down to percentages and you will eventually end up proving that money isn't an autowin (which is true), but you pretty much summed it up in your last sentence - Yankees have certain financial advantages over some other teams and having a much lower salary cap would probably improve things all around for MLB the way it is now. I just couldn't agree with you saying "see, we didn't beat Rangers so it's not all about the money!" Sure, but that's not a good enough argument to discard the importance of it for the overall outcome.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 15:01:02
October 23 2010 15:00 GMT
#37
I don't see salary caps as an end-all solution... it's only part of the puzzle we need to solve to make professional sports make sense.

"see, we didn't beat Rangers so it's not all about the money!"

That misrepresents me.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 16:50:08
October 23 2010 16:44 GMT
#38
All I have to say is GO RANGERS! I could not be any prouder than i am right now of this team. If you had told me earlier this year, when the Rangers were still in financial ruin and owned by Tom Hicks, that we would later in the year pick up Cliff Lee and be going to the World Series... I would have thought you were smoking crack. The reason i love this team is because of the familial type atmosphere they have in the dugout. The Claw and Antlers,although may be seen as a gimmick and annoying to other teams, to our team and fans it is just another way our team shows support for each other.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
October 23 2010 17:37 GMT
#39
Why would you say the Yankees are a favorite over the Rangers? You saw all the stats they threw up during the game, im sure. The Rangers are the league leaders in productive outs. The yankees arent anywhere near close. The rangers have a better running game, also.

Can we, for once and for all, find out just who are these best players they are buying? Out of their active roster, they have: CC, Arod, Tex.

Please tell me the rest, because you all seem so hooked on that being the case.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
October 23 2010 17:39 GMT
#40
Where is Jason Hamilton? or Torii Hunter? Or Manny Ramirez? Or David Ortiz?

Money doesnt win championships, or buy the best players. Thankfully, the yankees dont actually rely on it for either.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:23:17
October 23 2010 18:21 GMT
#41
I think there is some legitimate criticism in flaunting the fact that the yankees lose even though they have such a ridiculous pay roll. To say as if payroll has no effect on the probability of winning the world series is pretty ridiculous - sure there is the occasional team that is sub 130 million in total payroll that makes it and wins it, but the correlation is highly in favor of teams that have the ability to just sort of "snag" players with their ability. This is compounded by the fact that teams such as these tend to generate considerably higher revenue merely because they are able to win more, and thus buy even better players. It becomes a sort of vicious cycle, where cities such as Pittsburgh are completely fucked over, and cities such as new york get fans from all over the country and repeatedly win their division (though, again, the rays are that one exception of a team that didn't even make it through the first round).
I support a payroll cap.
On October 24 2010 02:39 Gene wrote:
Money doesnt win championships, or buy the best players. Thankfully, the yankees dont actually rely on it for either.

That's just not true. If anything, the yankees COMPLETELY rely on their money to buy the best players and win championships. The fact that they can't win even though they DO buy the best players (cliff lee to NY next year?) and STILL can't win means they are just bad at it.
Oh, and lets not forget who won the world series last year. And what their payroll was compared to the league average.
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