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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 02:00:14
September 21 2010 01:57 GMT
#81
Gau is one of the early characters that can be really powerful throughout a strong portion of the game. If you want, HCbailly (He let's plays games, he's done all the final fantasy's through 8 and is current on 9) has a video on some of the rages he prefers throughout the game.

I also recommend if you haven't to practice Sabin's blitz command, so you can perform them without fail as they are typically much stronger than your normal attack command.

link to his video: http://www.youtube.com/user/hcbailly?blend=1&ob=4#p/c/076E714267E62329/19/u0Y2T5CfFwA


edit: i know you have finished Sabin's section, so getting back to the veldt will be pretty tough until later, but if you want to take time once you get out of narshe once everyone meets up you could make your way back to the vedlt if you want to power him up.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
September 21 2010 02:03 GMT
#82
On September 21 2010 10:57 Alventenie wrote:
Gau is one of the early characters that can be really powerful throughout a strong portion of the game. If you want, HCbailly (He let's plays games, he's done all the final fantasy's through 8 and is current on 9) has a video on some of the rages he prefers throughout the game.

I also recommend if you haven't to practice Sabin's blitz command, so you can perform them without fail as they are typically much stronger than your normal attack command.

link to his video: http://www.youtube.com/user/hcbailly?blend=1&ob=4#p/c/076E714267E62329/19/u0Y2T5CfFwA


edit: i know you have finished Sabin's section, so getting back to the veldt will be pretty tough until later, but if you want to take time once you get out of narshe once everyone meets up you could make your way back to the vedlt if you want to power him up.


I have practiced my Fire Dance to the point that I can do it without fail.

I can also do pummel well, although that's fairly simple.

I haven't bothered trying the other two Blitz which are also available to me. O well.
:]
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2010 02:07 GMT
#83
Aurabolt is one of his stronger ones since its magic based damage, and isn't affected by row (like pummel is), so you could keep him in the back row where he takes half physical damage, yet deals normal damage with his aurabolt and firedance. His other one is Suplex which is just funny, if you want, you could of even Suplexed the phantom train for lulz.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 21 2010 02:07 GMT
#84
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.

Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 21 2010 02:21 GMT
#85
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.


I've never played FF6 on the PC before, but if its anything like playing a Fighting game on PC, then its still possible to do.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
September 21 2010 02:22 GMT
#86
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.



Mmmmm,,,,,?????

I just used the four direction keys on my keyboard for Fire Dance. It's like the game says:

Left, Left + Down, Down, Right + Down, Right.

Works for me every time.
:]
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 21 2010 02:37 GMT
#87
On September 21 2010 10:57 Alventenie wrote:
Gau is one of the early characters that can be really powerful throughout a strong portion of the game. If you want, HCbailly (He let's plays games, he's done all the final fantasy's through 8 and is current on 9) has a video on some of the rages he prefers throughout the game.

I also recommend if you haven't to practice Sabin's blitz command, so you can perform them without fail as they are typically much stronger than your normal attack command.

link to his video: http://www.youtube.com/user/hcbailly?blend=1&ob=4#p/c/076E714267E62329/19/u0Y2T5CfFwA


edit: i know you have finished Sabin's section, so getting back to the veldt will be pretty tough until later, but if you want to take time once you get out of narshe once everyone meets up you could make your way back to the vedlt if you want to power him up.

HCbaily is a pimp. Iuv his lets play
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2010 02:38 GMT
#88
On September 19 2010 12:33 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 12:19 Sentenal wrote:
Also, IIRC tools don't scale well with level ups, so later on his damage will be better with just attacking and stuff.


FUUUUUU



Well to at least revitalize your hopes, his tools are actually very useful throughout the game, and you will probably use them much more than his physical attack. Auto crossbow since it is physical will eventually drop in damage due to armor values and stuff, but bio blaster still is an elemental damage spell and can do significant damage (poison damage is also a % modifier, so it scales through most of the game). Noiseblaster is also good as it confuses enemies with a high success rate. His other tools you get later also do their jobs extremely well, and if you want i can tell you what they do once you get them.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 02:53:37
September 21 2010 02:51 GMT
#89
On September 21 2010 11:22 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.



Mmmmm,,,,,?????

I just used the four direction keys on my keyboard for Fire Dance. It's like the game says:

Left, Left + Down, Down, Right + Down, Right.

Works for me every time.

I couldn't seem to get it working

Then I found another way to input it and went straight from Blitz to Bum Rush (those who have played will know). That sure kicked the game's difficulty in the balls.

On the topic of Edgar, I used the Bio and Flash attacks for quite awhile. His single-target tools stay alright for quite awhile, but kind of fade out lategame.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2010 03:01 GMT
#90
On September 21 2010 11:51 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 11:22 illu wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.



Mmmmm,,,,,?????

I just used the four direction keys on my keyboard for Fire Dance. It's like the game says:

Left, Left + Down, Down, Right + Down, Right.

Works for me every time.

I couldn't seem to get it working

Then I found another way to input it and went straight from Blitz to Bum Rush (those who have played will know). That sure kicked the game's difficulty in the balls.

On the topic of Edgar, I used the Bio and Flash attacks for quite awhile. His single-target tools stay alright for quite awhile, but kind of fade out lategame.



Even with the best gear in the game one of his later tools will still be on par due to its ability to pierce defense, and the other 2 are great due to their special properties.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 21 2010 03:19 GMT
#91
On September 21 2010 12:01 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 11:51 Dfgj wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:22 illu wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.



Mmmmm,,,,,?????

I just used the four direction keys on my keyboard for Fire Dance. It's like the game says:

Left, Left + Down, Down, Right + Down, Right.

Works for me every time.

I couldn't seem to get it working

Then I found another way to input it and went straight from Blitz to Bum Rush (those who have played will know). That sure kicked the game's difficulty in the balls.

On the topic of Edgar, I used the Bio and Flash attacks for quite awhile. His single-target tools stay alright for quite awhile, but kind of fade out lategame.



Even with the best gear in the game one of his later tools will still be on par due to its ability to pierce defense, and the other 2 are great due to their special properties.

Even with the best gear? With the best gear, he could break 9999 in a single round with certain weapons/relics, and the tools you are talking about wouldn't be able to do that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 21 2010 03:25 GMT
#92
with the BEST gear you can one shot the end guy hahahaha
it's my first day
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 03:28:50
September 21 2010 03:28 GMT
#93
On September 21 2010 12:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 12:01 Alventenie wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:51 Dfgj wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:22 illu wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.



Mmmmm,,,,,?????

I just used the four direction keys on my keyboard for Fire Dance. It's like the game says:

Left, Left + Down, Down, Right + Down, Right.

Works for me every time.

I couldn't seem to get it working

Then I found another way to input it and went straight from Blitz to Bum Rush (those who have played will know). That sure kicked the game's difficulty in the balls.

On the topic of Edgar, I used the Bio and Flash attacks for quite awhile. His single-target tools stay alright for quite awhile, but kind of fade out lategame.



Even with the best gear in the game one of his later tools will still be on par due to its ability to pierce defense, and the other 2 are great due to their special properties.

Even with the best gear? With the best gear, he could break 9999 in a single round with certain weapons/relics, and the tools you are talking about wouldn't be able to do that.


Yes, but he is not the only person in your party, and with sufficient level grinding to increase his stats you could hit 9999 with any weapon. In a game where you don't grind insanely, the best weapons in the game for him will match, or be only a little better than his tools. Anyone could grind to 99 and max damage (probably a lot earlier too)
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 21 2010 03:45 GMT
#94
On September 21 2010 12:28 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 12:19 Sentenal wrote:
On September 21 2010 12:01 Alventenie wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:51 Dfgj wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:22 illu wrote:
On September 21 2010 11:07 Dfgj wrote:
I played FF6 lately on an emulator on my PC, and all the blitzes had diagonal arrows in them (which keyboards lack) when viewed in the game menu. I was using Pummel until near the end of the game.

Then I realized there was a set of commands that just used the 4-direction arrow keys for the blitzes.

Doh.



Mmmmm,,,,,?????

I just used the four direction keys on my keyboard for Fire Dance. It's like the game says:

Left, Left + Down, Down, Right + Down, Right.

Works for me every time.

I couldn't seem to get it working

Then I found another way to input it and went straight from Blitz to Bum Rush (those who have played will know). That sure kicked the game's difficulty in the balls.

On the topic of Edgar, I used the Bio and Flash attacks for quite awhile. His single-target tools stay alright for quite awhile, but kind of fade out lategame.



Even with the best gear in the game one of his later tools will still be on par due to its ability to pierce defense, and the other 2 are great due to their special properties.

Even with the best gear? With the best gear, he could break 9999 in a single round with certain weapons/relics, and the tools you are talking about wouldn't be able to do that.


Yes, but he is not the only person in your party, and with sufficient level grinding to increase his stats you could hit 9999 with any weapon. In a game where you don't grind insanely, the best weapons in the game for him will match, or be only a little better than his tools. Anyone could grind to 99 and max damage (probably a lot earlier too)

If you grind enough, sure you could hit 9999 with a few weapons.

The setup I was talking about doesn't require grinding. All it requires is the best equipment. Hitting something 8 times in one round with the 2 best weapons in the game would easily beat any tool in a single use.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2010 03:57 GMT
#95
It also takes away from what the rest of your party can do. Besides, other characters put those items to better use anyway. Its not a big deal either, if you want to play edgar that way its fine, i'm just saying that his tools can do just fine end game, and that without putting all of your best equipment on one person they keep up with end game damage for what he can do.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 21 2010 04:08 GMT
#96
This feels too much like arguing Fire Emblem stuff for me to want to continue with it lol

I agree his tools can be useful and be close to "average" damage output at the end of the game. I strongly disagree that his tools can put him on par with the "best" equipment, since the "best" equipment could one-shot the main boss. I guess I'll leave it at that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
September 21 2010 04:15 GMT
#97
Imo that "best relic" and two weapons should just go to another character that can deal less damage with his skills and let edgar be fine with tools.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
September 21 2010 04:28 GMT
#98
Don't do it! Don't listen to these people about what's the best equipment/relics/skills/rage/etc... Well at least for me, beating the game using the best possible configuration just devalues the whole experience because it makes the game so damn easy.

Difficulty>perfection for rpgs imo. Most games (including FFVI) can be beat with sub-par chars/equip as long as you're smart w/ battle strategies. You don't seem like a moron so just go with the flow with whatever makes you comfortable, and you'll complete the game just fine. Don't become a rpg perfectionist :D
--
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 21 2010 04:45 GMT
#99
Honestly FF6 is easy enough that it's somewhat pointless to worry about getting the absolute best of everything. Unless that's just your thing. Personally I find grinding a certain spell or two is the way to go.

+ Show Spoiler +
ULTIMA. ULTIMA EVERYWHERE.


:d
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 21 2010 05:09 GMT
#100
Read the above posts imo.

Yes, you can give certain spells/abilities to everyone and roflstomp the entire game, but it cheapens the ending when no fights pose challenges.

+ Show Spoiler +
The first time I played, I taught EVERYONE ultima, because I didn't know how hard it would be and prepared for the worst.
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