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coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
October 04 2010 15:38 GMT
#221
On October 04 2010 22:44 Chill wrote:
Wait, you...
+ Show Spoiler +
picked the golden hairpin over mog??????

mogs dances are ridiculously powerful!



If you... + Show Spoiler +
take a 30 minutes detour in the serpent trench and learn water rondo, yes, that shit is powerfull
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 04 2010 17:20 GMT
#222
On October 04 2010 22:44 Chill wrote:
Wait, you...
+ Show Spoiler +
picked the golden hairpin over mog??????

mogs dances are ridiculously powerful!


Well, the game offered me no clues as to how to get it, or at least I didn't see any clues.

So I missed it. The Golden Hairpin wasn't so bad anyways :D
:]
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 04 2010 19:31 GMT
#223
On October 04 2010 18:34 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 15:21 illu wrote:
On October 04 2010 14:35 Sentenal wrote:
On October 04 2010 14:21 illu wrote:
On October 04 2010 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
At Narshe, the Wolf who kidnapped the Moggle runs all the way up to where the Esper is, and at a point you get to choose between Moo, and getting the Golden Hairpin. It seems you went with the Golden Hairpin.

Also, earlier Celes just used Warp Magic to get rid of all the Imperial Soldiers, which ended up taking her away as well. I don't know why you would expect Celes to have been somehow teleported between worlds or something that extravagant, when it was obvious that Kefka was still around, even after being teleported.


But what you said also had some plot holes. If Celes casted warp, Kefka and Celes would still be together after the spell. How would Celes get rid of Kefka who was hostile to Celes (as seen during the siege of Narshe)? Kefka gained some power while in the MagiTek Research Facility; thus Celes was probably no match for Kefka and his soliders by herself. Yet she came out of the ordeal unhurt. Wasn't that odd? Worst yet the game didn't seem to have explained how she pulled it off.

Also, instead assuming Celes and Kefka were evenly matched (which was possible; they had similar origins), then why didn't Celes just tried to fight Kefka off instead of pulling that trick?

Furthermore, why didn't Celes warp Locke and the others instead? It would have been much easier and safer.

As for the wolf, I think you are right. I did receive the Golden Hairpin somewhere. It was extremely useful.


EDIT: so yeah. I felt that there should be some intricate plots around the great feat Celes performed; this is why I felt Celes might have landed in somewhere extravagant. She didn't, too bad. But at least there should be some explanations of how she did it, but I didn't see any.

Celes is still an Imperial general, so probably got imprisoned afterwards. And then was freed when the Emperor had his... change of heart. I don't know the mechanics of how her spell worked, but I can only imagine what she did was the best course of action. Basically she just "magiced" everyone away, which is more or less what the game presented. Nothing more, nothing less.


But we know that the Emperor did NOT have his change of heart and Kefka was probably not imprisoned. In that case, it is plausible to think that they might try to lock up Celes since she has foiled their plans twice already. But Celes was safe and sound. That was odd.

I suppose one other possibility is that Celes teleported Kefka and his minions away, subdued and imprisoned him, then the Emperor made her a General again to assist Terra and others. However, the problem is still that if she could subdue Kefka in the first place, why bother teleporting? She could have showed Locke her intentions right in front of him.

The best thing I can think of is the following. Locke accused of Celes of spying on the Returners. Celes, being the proud person that she was, refused to show her intentions in front of him. Therefore she chose to teleport Kefka away and subdue him in privacy where Locke could not see.

Maybe I am just being too picky. I am sorry.

Kefka was imprisoned, you can find him in the jail during the 'talk to soldiers' part. Everything that needs to look accurate does so, and thus Celes is also released and reinstated as her 'crime' was to oppose Kefka's atrocities. Thus returning as an Imperial general is actually quite sensible and realistic, as she and Leo are the highest representatives of the Empire besides Gestahl - there's no need for drama, and the normality of it works with the subsequent Celes/Locke scenes quite well.

The point of her earlier scene is to show that she's willing to sacrifice herself to save Locke, as a way to earn his trust. She's a young woman, and emotionally unstable. Weirder things happen.

Yeah, Kefka was actually imprisonned, you can see him in Jail, and hes pissed about it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 04 2010 22:27 GMT
#224
On October 05 2010 04:31 Sentenal wrote:
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On October 04 2010 18:34 Dfgj wrote:
On October 04 2010 15:21 illu wrote:
On October 04 2010 14:35 Sentenal wrote:
On October 04 2010 14:21 illu wrote:
On October 04 2010 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
At Narshe, the Wolf who kidnapped the Moggle runs all the way up to where the Esper is, and at a point you get to choose between Moo, and getting the Golden Hairpin. It seems you went with the Golden Hairpin.

Also, earlier Celes just used Warp Magic to get rid of all the Imperial Soldiers, which ended up taking her away as well. I don't know why you would expect Celes to have been somehow teleported between worlds or something that extravagant, when it was obvious that Kefka was still around, even after being teleported.


But what you said also had some plot holes. If Celes casted warp, Kefka and Celes would still be together after the spell. How would Celes get rid of Kefka who was hostile to Celes (as seen during the siege of Narshe)? Kefka gained some power while in the MagiTek Research Facility; thus Celes was probably no match for Kefka and his soliders by herself. Yet she came out of the ordeal unhurt. Wasn't that odd? Worst yet the game didn't seem to have explained how she pulled it off.

Also, instead assuming Celes and Kefka were evenly matched (which was possible; they had similar origins), then why didn't Celes just tried to fight Kefka off instead of pulling that trick?

Furthermore, why didn't Celes warp Locke and the others instead? It would have been much easier and safer.

As for the wolf, I think you are right. I did receive the Golden Hairpin somewhere. It was extremely useful.


EDIT: so yeah. I felt that there should be some intricate plots around the great feat Celes performed; this is why I felt Celes might have landed in somewhere extravagant. She didn't, too bad. But at least there should be some explanations of how she did it, but I didn't see any.

Celes is still an Imperial general, so probably got imprisoned afterwards. And then was freed when the Emperor had his... change of heart. I don't know the mechanics of how her spell worked, but I can only imagine what she did was the best course of action. Basically she just "magiced" everyone away, which is more or less what the game presented. Nothing more, nothing less.


But we know that the Emperor did NOT have his change of heart and Kefka was probably not imprisoned. In that case, it is plausible to think that they might try to lock up Celes since she has foiled their plans twice already. But Celes was safe and sound. That was odd.

I suppose one other possibility is that Celes teleported Kefka and his minions away, subdued and imprisoned him, then the Emperor made her a General again to assist Terra and others. However, the problem is still that if she could subdue Kefka in the first place, why bother teleporting? She could have showed Locke her intentions right in front of him.

The best thing I can think of is the following. Locke accused of Celes of spying on the Returners. Celes, being the proud person that she was, refused to show her intentions in front of him. Therefore she chose to teleport Kefka away and subdue him in privacy where Locke could not see.

Maybe I am just being too picky. I am sorry.

Kefka was imprisoned, you can find him in the jail during the 'talk to soldiers' part. Everything that needs to look accurate does so, and thus Celes is also released and reinstated as her 'crime' was to oppose Kefka's atrocities. Thus returning as an Imperial general is actually quite sensible and realistic, as she and Leo are the highest representatives of the Empire besides Gestahl - there's no need for drama, and the normality of it works with the subsequent Celes/Locke scenes quite well.

The point of her earlier scene is to show that she's willing to sacrifice herself to save Locke, as a way to earn his trust. She's a young woman, and emotionally unstable. Weirder things happen.

Yeah, Kefka was actually imprisonned, you can see him in Jail, and hes pissed about it.


I guess I missed this part.
:]
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 05 2010 03:48 GMT
#225
Part 14

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On the ship, Terra was still trying to make up her mind.

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That's when Shadow came in and said something useful (other than asking for money, leaving, etc.)

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Errr.... wait. What? O well. Apparently Terra and Shadow reached an impasse and left the scene. Then Locke came in...

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Locke was seasick ^__^... anyways, at this point Terra, Shadow, and Locke formed a group, while Celes stayed with Leo. Disembarking from the ship, the group found them (yet again) in Thamasa.

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For some reason, the people here seemed different. Not only were the shops functional, the Inn also offered stay for 1 gil instead of the previous 1500 gil. The most notable difference was the following character in front of the doorway mentioned last time.

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And... o shit! A new character!

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Then a little girl came in.

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(O shit)^2! Another new character.

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The little girl was called Relm. The old man was called Strago. Relm immediately took interests in Shadow's dog.

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Locke noted there was something odd in this town (thanks Locke, I noticed that a LONG time ago). Anyways, while in the Inn over night, Strago came in and...

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Relm was missing! Uh-oh! Everyone got up and went to help, except Shadow who stayed briefly - it turned out Shadow's dog, Interceptor, was missing as well.

After checking around the town, it seemed that one house was on fire, and Relm was probably in it.

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Oddly, the townfolks were trying to put out the fire by using - that's right - MAGIC. It turned out everyone at Thamasa could use magic. Of course, given the name of the town, this was not too surprising. However, as these people had no obvious connections with Espers, it was obvious there magic had other sources, as well. More on this later.

Anyways, Terra, Locke, and Strago went into the burning house to save Relm. While they did manage to find Relm, everyone got knocked out by the flame as they tried to make their escape. However, Shadow came in in the nick of time and saved everyone.

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On the next day, Strago explained.

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So basically, everyone in the village were descendants of Mage Warriors who wielded the power of magic through Magicites 1000 years ago. This was why everyone in the village could use magic.

Anyways, on the next day everyone decided to go to a cave nearby.

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It was a dangerous mission; so only Terra, Locke, and Strago came along, leaving Relm behind. As the group ventured into the cave, however, it was obvious that Relm was tailing them. While in the cave, the group made a significant discovery.

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The backstory goes as follows. The three Statues were representations of three Goddesses. A long time ago they fought each other, turning some Humans into Espers, or living war machines, as collateral damage.

The group decided to go further, only to be interrupted by Ultros (yep!)

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Ultros mentioned Ziegfried here. Recall Sabin met Ziegfried previously on the phantom train. Interesting... anyways, as the group prepared to fight Ultros, Relm interjected and asked Ultros to pose for a portrait.

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Ultros was initially unwilling, but Terra and Locke somehow managed to convince Ultros to let Relm do it. The painting omgwtfbqqpwnt Ultros and he was forced to flee.

Further into the cave, Terra and others met a group of angry Espers.

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While the situation appeared to be hopeless, one Esper canned Yura came into the scene and stopped the fightning.

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Basically this Yura seemed to be a nice guy who wanted to make remands. Perhaps there were hope after all for Humans and Espers. By the way, according to Yura, the destruction of Vector was not even the Espers' fault - they simply went berserk upon entering the Humans' World. On the next day, Yura formally asked Leo for pardons,

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At this point it seemed like it was going to be a happy ending, but then a strange laugh was heard! Oh no! It's Kefka!!!

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At this point I could only control Leo. There was nothing to do except to confront Kefka.

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Leo fought valiantly against Kefka, but he was eventually slain by him.

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A big middle finger for you, Kefka. Then, Kefka killed all the Espers on scene and collected their Magicites for his power.

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Two big middle fingers for you, Kefka. As more Espers tried to revenge their fallen brethrens, Kefka would kill them one by one - and as a result strengthen himself even more. It was truly sad and disturbing to watch.

Luckily, Terra and others were left alive. After Kefka left, they buried Leo and swore revenge on the Empire.

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Then the others came to Thamasa as well.

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It turned out the Empire probably tried to capture Edgar and others. However, using his manly charm, Edgar learned about the Empire's plans through a maid (who he flirted with). Way to go Edgar!

After everyone left, there was this odd scene.

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I guess Edgar and Relm were related somehow. I haven't figured out what their relationship can possibly be yet, but I will just hope Relm was not Edgar's daughter ^__^;

Now that everyone got together, I was able to form a group with my star characters.

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Next stop: the floating island.






:]
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 05 2010 04:58 GMT
#226
Leo is so cool, why does he have to die.

protip:
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you can find a Rage technique that lets Gau use Leo's Shock. You don't find this monster until late late game though.


Relm is related to two of the heroes, Strago (duh) and... not Edgar.
it's my first day
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
October 05 2010 05:23 GMT
#227
On October 05 2010 02:20 illu wrote:
Well, the game offered me no clues as to how to get it, or at least I didn't see any clues.

So I missed it. The Golden Hairpin wasn't so bad anyways :D


As Sentenal described, to get Mog, you talk to him instead of Lone Wolf when they're falling down that cliff by the esper Tritoch. The 'hint' was Lone Wolf slyly tempting you with an item, when you're supposed to know better, always doing your best to save all things fluffy and cute. No worries though! Gold Hairpins are quite useful, as I'm sure you've found. By not choosing Mog, you don't get to use him for some time (95% sure), and you don't get to learn one of his dances. No biggie.

And Relm isn't related to Edgar. That exchange was just about Edgar being a playa and Relm being precocious.

If you have a bunch of GP to spare (I'd guess 30k total, maybe more), you can try going to Jidoor's auction house and getting espers Zoneseek and Golem. They're useful, unnecessary, and appear as biddable items fairly rarely. If, right now, you don't feel like running in, mashing A for 90 seconds, running out, and repeating for 20mins, you can get them later (same process).

Good luck with the floating continent. Very fun, potentially very frustrating.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 05 2010 05:28 GMT
#228
Kefka killing General Leo was so T_T

Kefka really is a good villain. Its so easy to hate him, and he does everything that a good villain should do.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 29 2010 04:39 GMT
#229
BUMP PLEASE.
luckyseven
Profile Joined December 2010
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 01:15:45
December 24 2010 01:09 GMT
#230
I just played thru ff6 and made this background that you guys might like

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also a background from FF7: AC: Complete (advent children was re-released with an extra 30 minutes of footage FYI)

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and lastly a modded version of aeris....yay anime

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for those who dont know, some people modded the PC version of ff7 to give most characters/npcs updated graphics (worked on ultima-edition, win7 64)....go check it out (also the 2 hour advent children is aaammmmaaaaazing)

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i cant have been the only person to have literally shat rainbows out of my gaping mouth when this appeared on my screen (there was actually a 13 gig version of this movie floating around back then)
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