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I just finished the WC3campaign for the first time

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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 16 2010 20:56 GMT
#1
...and I loved it!

When WarCraft III was released, I was way too busy playing StarCraft(and two more reasons: I didn't have good enough computer for WC3, and I really didn't like the sound of having heroes), but I started a playing the singleplayer campaign a week or something ago. I think the campaign is much better than the SC2 campaign. My favorite race is night elves by far, they just got really cool units and I just love the fact that you can uproot your buildings and stuff like that.

I still haven't played WC3 online, and probably never will. While I can tolerate heroes in singleplayer campaign, I'm still really sceptical for playing with heroes online.

I've just done the first mission on Frozen Throne now. How long are the campaigns compared to ROC, and how much harder are they?

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rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
September 16 2010 21:02 GMT
#2
They are somewhat harder but fun. WC3 campaign is the best ive ever played.

After you finish TFT you can go read how Blizzard made a complete mess of the storyline with WoW and ruined warcraft universe in general by pleasing random peoples requests.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 16 2010 21:03 GMT
#3
-_- I QQed after hearing Blizzard fucked up their own story
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
September 16 2010 21:06 GMT
#4
On September 17 2010 06:02 PaD wrote:

After you finish TFT you can go read how Blizzard made a complete mess of the storyline with WoW and ruined warcraft universe in general by pleasing random peoples requests.


I heard WC4 (whenever that happens) will continue from WC3. Basically whatever is in WoW means nothing storywise.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 21:10:49
September 16 2010 21:06 GMT
#5
The frozen throne campaign is a little shorter but its still pretty cool. It pretty much picks up right were the ROC left off. The different races are just trying to pick up the pieces after the burning legions fall, and you see the scourge become the "big" evil in Azeroth. Illidan is a LOT cooler looking now and you get to use some cool new units. Also the flow of the game and some of the annoying things of ROC were fixed in TFT. My only complaint about TFT is that you didn't get to see very much of the Orcs in the campaigns. There are only 3, The Night Elves, Alliance (the blood elves) and the UD.

Also, the UD (the last one) campaign for TFT is awesome.

All in all I love WC lore, i think its really well done and pretty interesting and better than SC's (not to say SC's is bad though). That being said, I think Diablo lore is the best. Something about the archetypal battle between Good and Evil that gets me.

Edit

"I heard WC4 (whenever that happens) will continue from WC3. Basically whatever is in WoW means nothing storywise."

No, that won't happen. To much has happened in WoW (arthas is killed, Illidan is killed Etc) They can't just skip over it. That being said, I personally don't think they screwed up the lore. WoW is a VERY lore driven game.
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
September 16 2010 21:10 GMT
#6
I absolutely loved the Warcraft 3 campaign. It makes you emotionally involved with the characters, so you feel the joy and sadness when events happen. I felt particularly sad when Maiev's warden were left behind in the sunken city while she ran away.

WoW took everything away. The characters in the game are very easy to hate and don't feel as important. Saurfang and Hogger feel more important than Jaina and Varian. That's how you can tell the story has taken the plunge.
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NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 16 2010 21:12 GMT
#7
I really liked the WC3 campaign. I felt like the TFT campaign wasn't as epic, but still good and worth playing. And yes I completely agree WoW, especially burning crusade, really messed up cannon for warcraft. After seeing the story for SC2, at least the first third, I kinda think metzen cant write like he used to.
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 16 2010 21:12 GMT
#8
There is one user made campaign, which is absolutely awesome. You have to play it! It is not so long but so well made, I would say it can easily top the campaign. Get it here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/dwarf-campaign-80424/?prev=t=43&r=20&d=list&status=a&page=4
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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
September 16 2010 21:12 GMT
#9
Definitely. Ignoring literary arguments, Wc3 had probably one of the most well designed video game narratives ever, just a par below legends like Half Life imo. Yes, the story is contrived, the writing was kind of bad, but presentation and pacing? 10/10.

SC2 gets 1/10 :/.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 16 2010 21:14 GMT
#10
When I get internet, in 7 days, I will start playing SCBW and SCII again. Do you think I will able to play through Frozen Throne before that if I play 1-2 hours every day?
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 16 2010 21:20 GMT
#11
The W3 campaign was sooo good. It was much better than sc2 IMO.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 16 2010 21:24 GMT
#12
WC3 had the best campaign of any RTS ever in my opinion.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
September 16 2010 21:24 GMT
#13
I played WC3 campaign on normal on train rides with no mouse, only the touchpad.
Ah, that've been fun times
"Language is Freeware, in that it's free to use, but it's not Open Source, so you can't just change things how you like."
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 16 2010 21:32 GMT
#14
Am I the only person who liked Arthas from WC3? He was trying to keep his people safe and put the zombies out of their misery, but the others were like "no we can't kill the zombies waa waa waa." It was pretty sad to see him turn evil when he had to do something terrible and right, and got no support from his friends.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 16 2010 21:32 GMT
#15
Yeah wc3 campaign is amazing.
Humbug
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 21:50:35
September 16 2010 21:48 GMT
#16
The Warcraft lore is astoundingly great imo, one of the best worlds (well, to me) I've seen in a video game. It made playing through WoW a lot more interesting :D

On September 17 2010 06:32 Slow Motion wrote:
Am I the only person who liked Arthas from WC3? He was trying to keep his people safe and put the zombies out of their misery, but the others were like "no we can't kill the zombies waa waa waa." It was pretty sad to see him turn evil when he had to do something terrible and right, and got no support from his friends.


Yeah, I really liked Arthas too, his story line was so tragic,+ Show Spoiler +
seeing him turn from a paladin in training/heir to the throne, into a monster through his own actions. All he wanted was for the good of the kingdom :[

If I ever have to write a paper on a modern tragic hero, I'd write about Arthas tbh lol
What is an angel? Show me an angel and I shall paint one
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
September 16 2010 22:07 GMT
#17
After Warcraft 3, they pretty much butchered their own story with World of Warcraft, it seems the writers still haven't come to their senses after SC2.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 22:11:54
September 16 2010 22:11 GMT
#18
I LOVED the wc3 campaign. Last mission was so fucking hard. I tried it so many times, and again and again I lost (this was before I knew how to play BW), so I just gave up and used cheats haha.

The one thing I don't get is why they changed names for units and made them worse in the expansion?

Ballista->Glaive Thrower
Catapult(I really can't remember)->Rock tosser(I know it became something stupid)

And a few more I can't remember. I still haven't beaten TFT's campaign. I really need to get on that one day.
KT_Violet
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 22:24:40
September 16 2010 22:22 GMT
#19
The TFT undead campaign is a step up in difficulty from every other one in RoC/TFT. TFT is a bit shorter than RoC, mainly cause there's no real orc campaign and the human one is short.

The final mission of the undead campaign is just insane (or it was back in the day, maybe I just sucked so much back then), on hard difficulty it just beats you down and demoralizes you. Most people need to load saves constantly to beat it on hard.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
JibJabberJab
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 22:26:07
September 16 2010 22:25 GMT
#20
Wc3 and TFT campaigns are definitively the best ive played.

There are also some custom made campaigns that are really, really good, like wanderers of sorceria, natures call : return of the dragon, and all the lore campaigns from outsiderXE. i recommend checking those out, hours and hours of fun!
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