EPTI just finished the WC3campaign for the first time - Page 2
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
Arthas: Yes, I've damned everyone and everything I've ever loved in his name, and I still feel no remorse. No shame. No pity. Tichondrius: The runeblade that you carry was forged by the Lich King and empowered to steal souls. Yours was the first one it claimed. Arthas: Then I'll make do without one. What is the Lich King's will? Uther the Lightbringer: The urn holds your father's ashes, Arthas! What, were you hoping to piss on them one last time before you left his kingdom to rot? Arthas: I didn't know what it held. Nor does it matter. I'll take what I came for one way or another. Uther the Lightbringer: I dearly hope that there's a special place in hell waiting for you, Arthas. Arthas: We may never know, Uther. I intend to live forever. Arthas: Citizens of Silvermoon! I have given you ample opportunities to surrender, but you have stubbornly refused! Know that today, your entire race and your ancient heritage will end! Death itself has come to claim the high tome of the elves! Now, arise, Kel'Thuzad, and serve the Lich King once again! Seriously blizzard can't write villains anymore after WoW. Maybe there habit of making every character a walking lootsack caught onto them. Man, now I wanna play Wc3 again. srsly every time I read those quotes I have Arthas's excellent VA monologueing in my head lol. | ||
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On September 17 2010 07:11 JIJIyO wrote: I LOVED the wc3 campaign. Last mission was so fucking hard. I tried it so many times, and again and again I lost (this was before I knew how to play BW), so I just gave up and used cheats haha. The one thing I don't get is why they changed names for units and made them worse in the expansion? Ballista->Glaive Thrower Catapult(I really can't remember)->Rock tosser(I know it became something stupid) And a few more I can't remember. I still haven't beaten TFT's campaign. I really need to get on that one day. Catapult is now a Demolisher Gyrocopter's are now flying machines... and Wyverns are now Wind Riders Why that is i have no idea... | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8080 Posts
Having the orcs being good is the first huge mistake. Orks were bad, and that was really cool. Second thing stupid is to have mess up the whole Azeroth / Loarderon kingdoms things. Azeroth was the weaker kingdom and Loarderon was another kingodm helping them against the invader. They had really different "personalities". King Terenas and King Lothar. That was damn awesome. Heros were also much cooler in WC2. Damn, Aleria, Kurdan, that was really something. After that, when you listen the cheesy Night Elves heros in WC3 and their crap love stories, you want to do sepuku. Arthas / Uther thing is also plain sad, when you remember how cool Uther was in WC2. That's paraoxical that more they have tried top develop the depth of the characters/storyline, and more shallow it has been. Same than between Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. Minsc doesn't say a word in BG1, and still, he is so much cooler than in BG2 when they madde a full character with a lot of banters and a "rich" personality... W2 was nice and simple. No bullcrap. Sober and imaginative. WC3 is like the next holywood movie except that it's a video game. Well, if I want to see abad movie, better going to cinema. Warcraft franchise was amazing till W2. W3 is already a fuck up. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On September 17 2010 08:03 Biff The Understudy wrote: I am a WC2 hardcore fan. WC3 campaign was a complete messup in terms of storyline imo. Having the orcs being good is the first huge mistake. Orks were bad, and that was really cool. Second thing stupid is to have mess up the whole Azeroth / Loarderon kingdoms things. Azeroth was the weaker kingdom and Loarderon was another kingodm helping them against the invader. They had really different "personalities". King Terenas and King Lothar. That was damn awesome. Heros were also much cooler in WC2. Damn, Aleria, Kurdan, that was really something. After that, when you listen the cheesy Night Elves heros in WC3 and their crap love stories, you want to do sepuku. Arthas / Uther thing is also plain sad, when you remember how cool Uther was in WC2. That's paraoxical that more they have tried top develop the depth of the characters/storyline, and more shallow it has been. Same than between Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. Minsc doesn't say a word in BG1, and still, he is so much cooler than in BG2 when they madde a full character with a lot of banters and a "rich" personality... W2 was nice and simple. No bullcrap. Sober and imaginative. WC3 is like the next holywood movie except that it's a video game. Well, if I want to see abad movie, better going to cinema. Warcraft franchise was amazing till W2. W3 is already a fuck up. I can veritably taste the irony. It is bitter, but with a pleasant tinge of lime. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On September 17 2010 08:10 EvilTeletubby wrote: I have to play through WC3 again, because I reeeeeeeeeeeally don't remember it being half as interesting as you guys say it was. Obvious bias here, but I believe SC (not brood war of course) had the best RTS storyline. SC2's was pathetic obviously, but I honestly can't say I believe WC3's was even close to SC's. you really do need to play through it again lol, the storylines aren't even comparable in quality, wc3 is just that much better. fun times soloing the last mission with arthas in roc | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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strongwind
United States862 Posts
Personally I've loved all 3 of blizzard's universes. Each one brought something new and refreshing to the table. I don't like comparing them with each other because they all stand so well by themselves. WoW and SC2 have marked the beginning of the end for me. I'm baffled at how far things have fallen in terms of great storytelling. Time to replay the old campaigns and reminisce..haha | ||
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
On September 17 2010 06:06 eazo wrote: I personally don't think they screwed up the lore. WoW is a VERY lore driven game. it is approximately as lore driven as porn and cell phone ringtones. im coming from a wc2 background, and cant imagine that any player who played and enjoyed that game would see the changes brought about its by successors in the franchise in a mainly positive light. there are so many contradictions in the new lore in relation to how the story first started out, so many things that have been retconned, blown out of proportion or relativized, pulled out of nowhere and dumbed down that the irony of the above quoted statement is mind-blowing. blizzards philosophy is to use lore to sell content, instead of using content to sell lore. the playerbase's philosophy is 'who cares about lore as long as the things that i can do are fun'. :/ | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On September 17 2010 05:56 aPsychonaut wrote: ...and I loved it! When WarCraft III was released, I was way too busy playing StarCraft(and two more reasons: I didn't have good enough computer for WC3, and I really didn't like the sound of having heroes), but I started a playing the singleplayer campaign a week or something ago. I think the campaign is much better than the SC2 campaign. My favorite race is night elves by far, they just got really cool units and I just love the fact that you can uproot your buildings and stuff like that. I still haven't played WC3 online, and probably never will. While I can tolerate heroes in singleplayer campaign, I'm still really sceptical for playing with heroes online. I've just done the first mission on Frozen Throne now. How long are the campaigns compared to ROC, and how much harder are they? If you try playing the TFT campaign on "Hard". You will discover that even the second mission will be a nightmare. I highly discourage you from doing it on Hard until you have beat it on Normal first. In general, the TFT campaigns are about 50% harder than the original ones at the same difficulty. You will find the Night Elf and Undead campaign very challenging on certain levels, while the Human campaign should be comparably easier... By "comparably", I meant "still very hard". I remember the (second last?) Human mission was a complete nightmare which you have to destroy several Orc fractions while a Level 10 Blademaster would constantly attack you with a huge army and often with a bunch of Level 10 Dragons... making matters worse, you have almost no effective counters against them except trying to overpower them with a lot of towers, archers, and anything else that hits air. Unfortunately Dragons do splash chaos damage and owns really hard (not to mention they are immune to magic). Guardianship (please note that I used to be highly ranked for solo and FFA and I consider myself to be at least half-decent; also I am just writing this on top of my head so it might be inaccurate in certain places.): + Show Spoiler + NE mission 2: In normal difficulty, this mission is very easy. On Hard it's a completely different story. Because the Naga can walk on water while you can't, you already have a huge barrier in front of you. Making matters worse, you will be starving for resources unless you quickly destroy one of the island base and take it over. The rest is pretty much about massing a lot of towers, and try to land (which is a pain). I had to play this mission a couple of times to get the best timing. NE second last: Unfortunately you have a time-limit of 45 minutes. In my opinion, just using the goldmine you originally control is not good enough on Hard. You have to kill the UD base on the lower right corner very quickly and get a second mine before macroing up a lot of Chimeras. You will need at least 3 Chimera Roosts because you will be constantly losing troops. But with two gold mines it should be OK if you move quickly and carefully. Don't bother trying to harass the Summoners; you will get owned. NE last mission: complete nightmare. You will be attacked on almost all fronts. I suggest you first clear the top and bottom from Furion's position then work on Illidan. It will be very back and forth. HU mission: the key is to collect as many items as you can, preferably the brilliance aura item. It will help you greatly. The only hard one, in my opinion, is the last mission. Although the dota-style mission was also somewhat frustrating. UD mission: the hardest one that comes to mind are the second mission "King's Exit" (get ready to save a lot), all of the Dark Ranger missions, and the last mission (1v3. Not very fun). | ||
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konadora
Singapore66363 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Actually, most of the TFT was a pain in the arse now that I think about it. Ack. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
BUT I LOVED IT!!! <3 | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
You also get an orc campaign if you look for it. It's about how the neutral beastmaster hero Rexxar sets up the city of Oggrimmar. It's a really easy campaign and the heros are just beasts that you can suicide in and revive for a profit near the end of the game. What was stupid though was my strategy, I built a lot of towers on almost every level of TFT. I'd recommend it if you don't have a hard courseload. Storywise, I didn't think any of the games by Blizzard were super duper amazing. I mean the fanbases of starcraft are centered around gameplay, not lore. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Spoilers: A band of nerds slaughter every notable character... repeatedly. There are spaceships, motorcycles and Mr.T is somehow involved. Lore. | ||
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