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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
September 09 2010 11:09 GMT
#1
I'm writing this because my cat woke me up at 6:40 AM. I can't seem fall asleep again despite only having gotten 3 hours of sleep, and I really don't want to review the metabolism of fat and ketone bodies. Again. So instead I'm going to write something about K-On since I watched the latest episode last night and it happens to be fresh on my mind.

Some background. As silly as it seems, the main reason I picked up K-On was because it was by Kyoto Animation, a studio I came to really like because of their work with The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. Admittedly, their track record was more or less brutally crushed by Lucky Star, but apparently I didn't really learn anything from that debacle: when K-On was announced, after confirming that it wasn't another godawful Key VN adaptation, I put it on my to-watch list almost immediately. The fact that the show synopsis had the word 'music' in it definitely helped (I loved Beck! Nodame Cantabile S1 was great!), and so did Kyoto Animation's pretty consistent production values (I seem to be a sucker for shows with even semi-consistent production values).

The first season of K-On! was jaw-scratch-inducing, to say the least... I actually went in believing that it was going to be a show about music! LOL! Surprise! Gotcha bitch! Once I got over the fact that I'd been had, I tried to understand what made the show so amazingly popular. And I failed, similar to how I failed in trying to understand what made Lucky Star so popular. I realize that the whole 'cute girls doing cute things' thing has something to do with it, but come on, beyond that it's got practically nothing. It was basically a terrible show! Thankfully K-On! was an improvement over Lucky Star because it actually had a sense of temporal progression, so I could at least see time pass as these five dim-witted girls went about their lives aimlessly with reckless abandon. Oh and they dropped those otaku-culture inside jokes. But that doesn't make for an interesting show! The humor wasn't the type I enjoy too much (Jungle wa Itsumo Hare nochi Guu, 2x2=Shinobuden, Cromartie High School...), the 'music' made my teeth grind, and the logic and personalities these girls had at times was downright irritating.

I continued to watch the second season because holy shit there's practically nothing else to watch right now. At least I'd seen the first season of K-On. K-On!! pretty much went on with the same characteristics as the first season. The main cast continued to be infuriatingly ditzy, all they did was drink tea and eat cake, and what little of their music we did get to hear still sucked. But once the cast started realizing that they were going to graduate and their little club was going to end, I actually got interested. Hints of meaningful development! Maybe? They hinted at this for a few episodes, dropped it for a few more, went back to it, etc... But this last episode actually made me look forward to the remaining episodes, and not because it's 'finally going to be fucking over' (although that does have something to do with it). Over the past year or so I've gotten familiar with the cast and their ridiculous interactions with each other. I also remembered that I'm a sucker for slice of life! Oh man, slice of life shows are great. If I take K-On and completely ignore some of the more inane scenes and all of the musical scores I think I might actually get a decent slice of life show!

One of the things I like most about slice of life shows is how they end... There's no big bad boss that has to be defeated, nor is there some complex underlying plot that has to be unraveled. Slice of life shows just have these peachy little 'happily ever after' endings. I actually sort of like those, especially when they involve a cast that I've grown familiar with. The next episode for K-On is the graduation ceremony episode, and I've liked those ever since the Azumanga Daioh finale (I still remember Chiyo crying while singing the school's anthem during her graduation... that was a moment). I like them because it marks the end of the status quo: the years of interaction these friends shared, along with the largely invariable lifestyles they had, is coming to an end (I realize that 4 of the 5 main characters in K-On are going to go to college together or whatever, but it wouldn't be the same!). And at this point, I'm thinking that there isn't many other ways that this show could end. There's two more episodes remaining after the graduation episode, and I'm hoping that the amount of teeth-grinding I still have to do is low, but it's pretty hard to fuck up the ending to a slice of life show this close to the finale. I'd also be lying if I said that I wasn't looking forward to seeing how else they're going to build up towards the ending in addition to the graduation episode. As much as I've hated on this show, I think I'm going to be a relatively satisfied watcher, and I'm confident that I'll be giving the show a 7 on MAL (I gave K-On! a 6).

That or I'll get some good night's rest, wake up, and realize that the show is still shit, slice of life or not.

But for now, here's to a show that I thought was pure shit until a few hours ago... a show that might actually be decent, largely carried by its ending and what it entails for its ridiculous cast.

Now to review the metabolism of fat and ketone bodies. Again.

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Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 11:52:38
September 09 2010 11:14 GMT
#2
Yeah this anime would have been alot better if it wasn't so sterotypical.. For a good music anime try BECK, or Detroit Metal City

I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 09 2010 11:36 GMT
#3
min have you seen the eva movies? so epic
starleague forever
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
September 09 2010 11:39 GMT
#4
you gotta throw some screenshots in there mate.
#1 midas fan
herve
Profile Joined January 2010
152 Posts
September 09 2010 11:52 GMT
#5
On September 09 2010 20:14 Terrakin wrote:
I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^


Ahahaha oh wow. And min, K-On is one of those shows that you really really hate to like. You sort of have to resign yourself to the fact that you are ok watching a show that really is an insult to the art.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 13:27:50
September 09 2010 11:55 GMT
#6
Mrmin, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

EDIT: I blame being awake for 32+ hours.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 12:27:19
September 09 2010 12:26 GMT
#7
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o
In the woods, there lurks..
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
September 09 2010 12:29 GMT
#8
Go watch TTGL.
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
September 09 2010 13:21 GMT
#9
On September 09 2010 20:14 Terrakin wrote:
Yeah this anime would have been alot better if it wasn't so sterotypical.. For a good music anime try BECK, or Detroit Metal City

I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^


seconding dmc
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 09 2010 13:23 GMT
#10
What animes have you liked in the past and which ones are you watching right now?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
September 09 2010 13:29 GMT
#11
On September 09 2010 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o


oh wow, I'm blind or just stupid.

I don't think I'll be able to watch too much anime (maybe follow a few series) with school. There will be spare time but I'd rather use it on SC2 ^_^
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
September 09 2010 14:06 GMT
#12
I DON'T KNOW YOU ANYMORE.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 09 2010 14:11 GMT
#13
I love you dude.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
September 09 2010 14:23 GMT
#14
I'm a victim of K-ON!! =_=. I'm a total K-ON freak man. Like I know its bad and shameful so I hide it from my friends and family (well I attempt to hide it from my family but they know..). In my room there's a bunch of K-ON! posters. I even have a swimsuit K-ON! poster that can be stuck onto a shower wall so I can look at it while taking a shower and say "Hey you're wet! Guess what! I'm wet too =D!!!!". Currently I'm saving up for an import K-ON! clock and possibly a K-ON! dakimakura if I can find one.

Yeah... FML lol

I try my best to not let anyone of my friends go into my room because they're all very normal people, if they saw my posters they'd laugh their asses off.

... My fandom aside, I'll have to be honest- being a hard anime critic myself. The anime is simply just a moe-fest, and yes only up until now it shows signs of ending in a very warm-hearted way which makes the series worth the watch and not just constant moe fanservice. For fans like me and others who are crazy over it, we just have an insatiable hunger for high quality moe. lol

But hey man I'm glad that you changed your views on K-ON!! It's pretty rare for a normal fan of anime to have a positive view on K-ON!, especially after the affects it had on the anime industry.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 09 2010 14:55 GMT
#15
On September 09 2010 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

i gave k-on a 3
upinthis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 15:04:57
September 09 2010 14:59 GMT
#16
when an anime has 2 (two) beach episodes you know it's bad

it's a shame because i really liked mio

k-on season 1 that is
what is this
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
September 09 2010 15:17 GMT
#17
On September 09 2010 23:55 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

i gave k-on a 3

summer wars only a 4?
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
September 09 2010 15:20 GMT
#18
On September 09 2010 20:14 Terrakin wrote:
Yeah this anime would have been alot better if it wasn't so sterotypical.. For a good music anime try BECK, or Detroit Metal City

I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^

Seen Beck, tried to read the manga and then watch the anime for DMC, couldn't get into either one. I can't really get behind all the cursing that comes out of nowhere.


On September 09 2010 20:36 a176 wrote:
min have you seen the eva movies? so epic

Yea, I've been watching them. I'm enjoying it much more than the TV series since the amount of time Shinji spends in emo mode is greatly reduced. And good god it looks great on Blu-Ray.


On September 09 2010 20:39 pangshai wrote:
you gotta throw some screenshots in there mate.

Please no T_T


On September 09 2010 20:52 herve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 20:14 Terrakin wrote:
I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^


Ahahaha oh wow. And min, K-On is one of those shows that you really really hate to like. You sort of have to resign yourself to the fact that you are ok watching a show that really is an insult to the art.

Yea, I mean, I still think that it's terrible for anime in general but the whole slice of life finale is drawing me in. Does that make me a terrible person?


On September 09 2010 21:29 neobowman wrote:
Go watch TTGL.

Already saw TTGL... still think that it's the best show that season, mainly because everything else that season sucked dick.


On September 09 2010 22:23 dabom88 wrote:
What animes have you liked in the past and which ones are you watching right now?

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/mrmin123&show=0&order=4


On September 09 2010 23:06 fanta[Rn] wrote:
I DON'T KNOW YOU ANYMORE.




On September 09 2010 23:23 Snuggles wrote:
I'm a victim of K-ON!! =_=. I'm a total K-ON freak man. Like I know its bad and shameful so I hide it from my friends and family (well I attempt to hide it from my family but they know..). In my room there's a bunch of K-ON! posters. I even have a swimsuit K-ON! poster that can be stuck onto a shower wall so I can look at it while taking a shower and say "Hey you're wet! Guess what! I'm wet too =D!!!!". Currently I'm saving up for an import K-ON! clock and possibly a K-ON! dakimakura if I can find one.

Yeah... FML lol

I try my best to not let anyone of my friends go into my room because they're all very normal people, if they saw my posters they'd laugh their asses off.

... My fandom aside, I'll have to be honest- being a hard anime critic myself. The anime is simply just a moe-fest, and yes only up until now it shows signs of ending in a very warm-hearted way which makes the series worth the watch and not just constant moe fanservice. For fans like me and others who are crazy over it, we just have an insatiable hunger for high quality moe. lol

But hey man I'm glad that you changed your views on K-ON!! It's pretty rare for a normal fan of anime to have a positive view on K-ON!, especially after the affects it had on the anime industry.

All I can say is good luck on your K-On paraphernalia endeavors, sir. And I'm not sure if it's a positive view of K-On I have... just... less harsh maybe?


On September 09 2010 23:59 upinthis wrote:
when an anime has 2 (two) beach episodes you know it's bad

it's a shame because i really liked mio

k-on season 1 that is

haha wow. I must have blocked that from my memory. How convenient.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 09 2010 15:21 GMT
#19
On September 10 2010 00:17 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 23:55 Milkis wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

i gave k-on a 3

summer wars only a 4?


I should have given it less than that, it was utter shit after all.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
September 09 2010 15:37 GMT
#20
Personally I have a tough time trusting kyoto after Haruhi season 2 t.t.

Wierd how everyone was raving about K-on.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
LokitAK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan90 Posts
September 09 2010 16:22 GMT
#21
K-On is dedicated solely to the weeaboo-loli group. The only redeeming feature is the animation isn't too bad, and it can occasionally make you laugh.
K-On!! is, by all intensive purposes, fan service. I wish there were a less.. deragetory word for these kinds of people, but Weeaboo is the only thing I know. I used to be super-in to that kind of stuff, and loved this shit (e.g. Lucky Star, Magical Play), but now seeing how nuts some people go over K-On!! baffles me. One of my friends is literally obsessed with the blond of the show, Mugi. I mean like, he has plush dolls and posters, and his desktop background is an embarrassingly fan service-ee Mugi lying provocatively on a table in her underwear.

I can't watch it. I watch much less anime than I used to, and when I do it's usually good anime, which for some reason is almost always way too short. Some of my favorites I would highly suggest, if you haven't seen them are:
Spice and Wolf, Eden of the East, Bakemonogatari, Arakawa Under the Bridge.
fredd
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Estonia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 16:25:27
September 09 2010 16:23 GMT
#22
i can't watch any anime these days without cringing, i don't even know why i try.. only good ones were spice & wolf, akagi, kaiji, nodame cantabile, probably forgetting a few aswell
sup
LokitAK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan90 Posts
September 09 2010 16:23 GMT
#23
On September 09 2010 20:14 Terrakin wrote:
Yeah this anime would have been alot better if it wasn't so sterotypical.. For a good music anime try BECK, or Detroit Metal City

I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^

BECK is my all time favorite anime :D.
I am so excited for the live action (which came out last weekend in japan) it's not even funny. It kills me that I have to wait for the Japanese DVD release, and then the fansubs.
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
September 09 2010 16:25 GMT
#24
On September 10 2010 01:22 LokitAK wrote:
desktop background is an embarrassingly fan service-ee Mugi lying provocatively on a table in her underwear.

dowant!
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 17:08:52
September 09 2010 17:08 GMT
#25
I dont want to comment too specifically anime details, but I find anime preference to be fascinating. Among people I talk to, it is so varied. I have disagreed greatly even with people I otherwise feel have good taste or even similar tastes. I think it has a lot to do with expectations going in.

I've never seen K-On, didnt seem appealing aside from good drawings. I liked Lucky star though sort of overrated but I think it was fun, aside from too much inside jokes. What didnt you like about Mononoke? (Only thing I had against it was I felt it was too similar plotwise to nausicaa)

Those ratings lists are cool, I should do one, but I suck at rating things numerically. It would be so inconsistent lol
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
September 09 2010 17:12 GMT
#26
All you haters are just angry you can't relate to a group of friends doing fun things together.
the courage to be a lazy bum
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
September 09 2010 17:22 GMT
#27
I love K-on! cause I'm a victim of the moe fad.

If you can get past the fact that nothing ever happens, and all they ever do is eat cake and drink tea, then it's a pretty good show :D
Zeak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
September 09 2010 17:26 GMT
#28
On September 10 2010 01:23 fredd wrote:
i can't watch any anime these days without cringing, i don't even know why i try..



Cause it keeps pulling you back in! D=

Idk...in my opinion anime has gone from going down hill to crashing into the ground at light speed with the coming of stuff like K-on...actually, probably just mainly K-on. At least stuff like Lucky Star had some interesting/fun moments and didn't base itself completely around moe cuteness. K-on...it's the epitome of meoblob cuteness, and that's all there is to it. And because it's so popular with the half of anime watchers that watch just for moe cuteness, we now have even more of this type of anime because of how successful it is (anyone heard of Sora no Woto? The whole anime's a goddamn K-on clone).

Still, I guess I can understand why people like it so much. And it makes sense that since the type of anime watchers who watch stuff like K-on are the ones that spend the most money on anime, more and more anime these days are going down the road of moe cuteness. Doesn't make me any less sad the quality of anime is going down hill in general -.-
Don't worry about it =D
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
September 09 2010 18:05 GMT
#29
I watched 2 episodes of K-ON and i felt disgusted with myself with the thought of watching the 2nd episode after the 1st one. I just cant imagine myself watching that type of anime. You gotta be a kid or a girl to enjoy that... well thats my opinion. Not a fan of moe/loli/ecchi anime

I liked Beck and finished the manga too. It was really good for my taste. And DMC is one of the funniest things Ive seen in anime. I love Krauser haha
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 09 2010 18:11 GMT
#30
On September 09 2010 23:55 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

i gave k-on a 3


but Fumoffu 8.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 09 2010 18:21 GMT
#31
I used to watch anime years ago, then I thought it was all terrible. I think it was all Lucky Star's fault. I remember that people had Hirano Aya do a Timotei impression during her press conference at Anime Expo. Really? AMERICANS were requesting a parody of an old Japanese commercial that they've never ever seen? I mean seriously. In my mind, it's the equivalent of Japanese people asking Seth Macfarlane to do one of his impressions of old 70's TV shows. It just doesn't computer.

The fandom didn't mesh with me, and I saw that this was the kind of crap that would be the modern face of anime. Weird, dumb fetishes, AT, moe, all that.

----

So then the other week, I downloaded a top 30 music list from Oricon. I study Japanese, and even if I don't understand a song, I still believe in passive learning just from offhand listening. There's a surprising amount of grammar and learning that happens when I listen, but that is a topic for another time.

I noticed that the one of my favorite songs was "Ho-Kago Tea Time - No, Thank You!" Loved it. I assumed that it was just one of those all female bands like ZONE or SCANDAL. I looked it up and I was surprised. OMG. One of my favorite songs is an anime song. Anime. The source of all things evil. But I loved the songs and I gave K-On! a try just for that.

There's just so many things I hate about it. Things like the canned one-dimensional stereotypes of characters we've all seen before. Bad animation that makes people's legs look funny. Atypical jokes like "HURHUR YOUR BOOBS ARE BIG. LOL HERS ARE SMALL" and "LOL SHE DOESN'T LIKE SCARY THINGS SO LET'S SCARE HER." Camera shots of short skirts and legs. The annoying nicknames like "Azu-nyan."

But I keep watching it. I'm on Episode 10 right now. I am, of course, always holding out for them to actually play music 'cause that's what I love most about the show. Even then, there's something about the charm of its "slice of life" style, the fact that even though nothing really happens, I just don't really care. And yet I'm aware of how this show is like, the most otaku nerd show out there, which really doesn't seem to match my original reason for not watching anime.

I'm a bit biased though. I'm watching the show without English subtitles so I probably understand only half of what's going on if even that, and the fact that they do common everyday things makes it a good choice to actually learn useful Japanese. I'm thinking about picking up the manga as well.

If there was a K-On live action I'd totally be into it.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
September 09 2010 21:46 GMT
#32
On September 10 2010 03:21 kainzero wrote:
Even then, there's something about the charm of its "slice of life" style, the fact that even though nothing really happens, I just don't really care. And yet I'm aware of how this show is like, the most otaku nerd show out there, which really doesn't seem to match my original reason for not watching anime.

More people need to adopt that attitude
But what can I say, you watch what you want to.
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
September 09 2010 22:06 GMT
#33
On September 09 2010 22:21 Cube wrote:
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On September 09 2010 20:14 Terrakin wrote:
Yeah this anime would have been alot better if it wasn't so sterotypical.. For a good music anime try BECK, or Detroit Metal City

I do have a Mio breast mousepad though which is really comfortable ^^


seconding dmc


Thirding on DMC. I cried from laughing so hard in that anime.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
September 09 2010 22:18 GMT
#34
I tend to enjoy slice of life anime, but for whatever reason the two episodes of K-On! that I watched just couldn't make me watch a third. Could be because when I watch an anime I either watch one episode and then immediately watch it all in rapid succession, or try out an episode or two and never watch the rest of the series. There tends to be very few in between with me, and it's also why I stopped watching anime while it was still running (though I must admit it's also because I'm waiting for uncensored episodes. >_>)
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 09 2010 22:25 GMT
#35
On September 10 2010 00:21 Milkis wrote:
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On September 10 2010 00:17 fanta[Rn] wrote:
On September 09 2010 23:55 Milkis wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
On September 09 2010 20:55 Entropic wrote:
Milkis, I thought you were a really cool guy. I don't know anymore.

MrMin, not milkis.........

You cant hate a guy with dancing smilies! :o


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

i gave k-on a 3

summer wars only a 4?


I should have given it less than that, it was utter shit after all.




summer wars was highly cliche, unoriginal, and pretty kiddy, but still immensly enjoyable
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
September 09 2010 22:35 GMT
#36
Damn, the OP is long. Didn't the title suffice in explaining what you thought of the anime?
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 22:41:55
September 09 2010 22:38 GMT
#37
On September 10 2010 01:22 LokitAK wrote:
K-On is dedicated solely to the weeaboo-loli group. The only redeeming feature is the animation isn't too bad, and it can occasionally make you laugh.
K-On!! is, by all intensive purposes, fan service. I wish there were a less.. deragetory word for these kinds of people, but Weeaboo is the only thing I know. I used to be super-in to that kind of stuff, and loved this shit (e.g. Lucky Star, Magical Play), but now seeing how nuts some people go over K-On!! baffles me. One of my friends is literally obsessed with the blond of the show, Mugi. I mean like, he has plush dolls and posters, and his desktop background is an embarrassingly fan service-ee Mugi lying provocatively on a table in her underwear.

I can't watch it. I watch much less anime than I used to, and when I do it's usually good anime, which for some reason is almost always way too short. Some of my favorites I would highly suggest, if you haven't seen them are:
Spice and Wolf, Eden of the East, Bakemonogatari, Arakawa Under the Bridge.


I agree with what you said but I disagree with Lucky Star belonging to that category. Lucky Star is a parody of moe and despite the cutesy atmosphere is actually a fairly well-written and brilliantly animated comedy. People shit on Lucky Star a lot but I think the humor of it didn't go along well with a lot of american audiences. The humor is in many situations quite dry and completely character based. The characters are cliche with the intention and purpose of parody and satire rather than the regurgitated stereotypes that clutter up so much of the harem/moe bullshit that is released these days.

Lucky Star is funny. While the moe-crowd might love it for the cute little girls, there is an aspect to the show that isn't present at all in a show like K-On. K-On isn't very funny so it has no appeal aside from the moe. Same with a show like Hidamari Sketch, the only reason to watch it is because of cute little girls doing cute things.

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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 22:45:29
September 09 2010 22:44 GMT
#38
I loved K-On!, I watched like 5 eps of K-On!! and quit.
What can I say... when the same shiz goes on and on and on you get bored.
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 00:59:38
September 10 2010 00:59 GMT
#39
On September 10 2010 07:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I agree with what you said but I disagree with Lucky Star belonging to that category. Lucky Star is a parody of moe and despite the cutesy atmosphere is actually a fairly well-written and brilliantly animated comedy. People shit on Lucky Star a lot but I think the humor of it didn't go along well with a lot of american audiences. The humor is in many situations quite dry and completely character based. The characters are cliche with the intention and purpose of parody and satire rather than the regurgitated stereotypes that clutter up so much of the harem/moe bullshit that is released these days.

I remember watching one of the episodes where the blue haired girl was talking with the twins about whether they were identical or fraternal twins and how identical twins come from one egg, but fraternal twins come from two eggs.

They wanted to eat breakfast afterward.

So I thought, "okay, a random conversation..."

Then my Japanese friend came along and talked about eggs and sausage, because the Japanese word for sausage 「ソーセージ」is part of the word for twins. 「にらんせいそうせいじ」 or 「いちらんせいそうせいじ」Of course the egg part is pretty obvious.

What?

So I didn't get how an American audience would hope to understand it. Especially if the punchlines are delivered in explanatory subtitles. Can you imagine that? What if you were watching Chappelle's show and there's a subtitle explaining how Grape Juice differs from Grape Drink?

So yeah. The writing might be good but the fact that the humor was above and beyond what Americans should understand... that kinda puts it on the list for "only nerds would like this show."
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 10 2010 01:03 GMT
#40
On September 10 2010 09:59 kainzero wrote:
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On September 10 2010 07:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I agree with what you said but I disagree with Lucky Star belonging to that category. Lucky Star is a parody of moe and despite the cutesy atmosphere is actually a fairly well-written and brilliantly animated comedy. People shit on Lucky Star a lot but I think the humor of it didn't go along well with a lot of american audiences. The humor is in many situations quite dry and completely character based. The characters are cliche with the intention and purpose of parody and satire rather than the regurgitated stereotypes that clutter up so much of the harem/moe bullshit that is released these days.

I remember watching one of the episodes where the blue haired girl was talking with the twins about whether they were identical or fraternal twins and how identical twins come from one egg, but fraternal twins come from two eggs.

They wanted to eat breakfast afterward.

So I thought, "okay, a random conversation..."

Then my Japanese friend came along and talked about eggs and sausage, because the Japanese word for sausage 「ソーセージ」is part of the word for twins. 「にらんせいそうせいじ」 or 「いちらんせいそうせいじ」Of course the egg part is pretty obvious.

What?

So I didn't get how an American audience would hope to understand it. Especially if the punchlines are delivered in explanatory subtitles. Can you imagine that? What if you were watching Chappelle's show and there's a subtitle explaining how Grape Juice differs from Grape Drink?

So yeah. The writing might be good but the fact that the humor was above and beyond what Americans should understand... that kinda puts it on the list for "only nerds would like this show."


That's one joke out of many. Obviously I didn't understand japanese linguistic puns but plenty of the shows humor punched through.
RIP Aaliyah
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
September 10 2010 04:44 GMT
#41
On September 10 2010 07:35 BottleAbuser wrote:
Damn, the OP is long. Didn't the title suffice in explaining what you thought of the anime?

No.

And for Lucky Star, I definitely wasn't aware of all those "subtle" jokes in the show. I guess that since I'm not a native Japanese speaker, and there's almost no way for translations to do that type of humor justice (god knows that I've butchered/cut a bunch of jokes from Old Boy, and the humor in there wasn't even that complex), I think I had zero chance to be able to appreciate that. I know that what little humor did get through just seemed really dorky. It's like Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei where the references seemed to get more and more obscure until I just gave up on the show because I just didn't get it anymore lol
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
September 19 2010 21:51 GMT
#42
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ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
September 19 2010 21:58 GMT
#43
@OP, you gave K-On! a 6?

You're very generous
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
September 19 2010 21:59 GMT
#44
Moeblob is somewhat enjoyable to me, but the only anime that I can only watch in marathon sessions are action ones for some reason... that being said I stopped watching K-On!! after the 10th//11th one... let me know if it's worth it to download the rest.
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drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
September 19 2010 22:15 GMT
#45
Mandatory cat photos must accompany this blog
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
September 26 2010 19:22 GMT
#46
I just got around to watching ep24 (which is supposed to be the actual end? I guess?) and the ending was actually sort of weak. wtf? The whole hide-the-card-from-the-teacher bit was a bit forced and added almost nothing to the ending, but they spent so much time on it that it didn't leave time for much else. That and maybe the fact that they added a song right at the end killed it for me.

Anyways, mandatory cat photo.
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Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 26 2010 21:20 GMT
#47
fuck you man

K-On best
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 26 2010 21:22 GMT
#48
I was planning to watch K-on after I finish Kanon. I agree with you that lucky star was terrible, I have no idea why people watch it at all. Out of all music animes, I liked Nana the best.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 26 2010 21:23 GMT
#49
On September 27 2010 06:22 Chairman Ray wrote:
I was planning to watch K-on after I finish Kanon. I agree with you that lucky star was terrible, I have no idea why people watch it at all. Out of all music animes, I liked Nana the best.


What? Even though she's such a slut?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 21:51:49
September 26 2010 21:26 GMT
#50
Either way i can't watch anime too much, even the ones that have a story, the animation on 3's just really pisses me off. + Show Spoiler +
It's not even just the 3's but also the larger movements on 7's 10's and 12's i thought anime is short for animation but there is a complete lack of animation. You even see these el cheepo habits appear on American tv sometimes too when they are animated in korea and come back on 3's with it's weird ghosting like animation, you also sometimes get weird body sizes morphing around in a scene esp when you can tell team C got the job to animate that scene. Even great shows like Venture bros suffer from this sometimes i can tell they had to clean up some shit because some scenes are on 3's instead of 2's
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