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Some small church in my city is planning to have a Quran bonfire to commemorate 9/11. Normally I wouldn't care except for the fact that the media picked up on this and now there are protests in foreign countries with the usual burning of American flags and death to america chants (irony lol). Now I really want to go and check out all the drama.
I also want to show my support for the Quran burners. I wish that I could partake in the festivities as I would absolutely love knowing that my small actions contributed to pissing off millions of oversensitive morons around the world.
General Petreus 'condemned' the quran burning. He is worried that this will increase violence in Afghanistan. Enough is enough already. We can't live forever censoring our behavior out of fear that it will offend someone. Protecting our liberties/constitution should be the only cause that the military fights for, not the only cause that they won't fight for. /facepalm
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Don't understand how burning Qurans commemorates 9/11 any more than burning Bibles would commemorate the crusades but whatever, let the idiots have their fun I guess.
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When are you hosting the bible burning commemoration for all those killed by the Inquisition? How is disrespecting another religion speak to the tolerant small church of Yahweh?
You have free speech and the right to burn that holy text of one of the multitude of gods. However by doing that you are a bigot and I am ashamed to think that we share the same country of origin.
Is 0/5 an option for blogs?
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I'm sure the 'millions of oversensitive morons' dont live forever sensoring THEIR behaviour to protect their liberties or personal constitutions and then tragedies like 9/11 happen. Not that i'm comparing Quran burning to 9/11 or that i remotely even agree with those 'millions of oversensitive morons'. In fact, I pretty much agree with you. but the last paragraph of your blog i disagree with, we should censor our behaviour, especially our unnecessary displays of hate.
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since when has retards provoking retards achieved anything
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Honestly, yo, there's a big difference between going out of your way to be a jackass and taking a dump on a lot of people's deepest-held convictions and "not censoring your behavior."
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On September 08 2010 06:22 BlackJack wrote: Some small church in my city is planning to have a Quran bonfire to commemorate 9/11. Normally I wouldn't care except for the fact that the media picked up on this and now there are protests in foreign countries with the usual burning of American flags and death to america chants (irony lol). Now I really want to go and check out all the drama.
I also want to show my support for the Quran burners. I wish that I could partake in the festivities as I would absolutely love knowing that my small actions contributed to pissing off millions of oversensitive morons around the world.
General Petreus 'condemned' the quran burning. He is worried that this will increase violence in Afghanistan. Enough is enough already. We can't live forever censoring our behavior out of fear that it will offend someone. Protecting our liberties/constitution should be the only cause that the military fights for, not the only cause that they won't fight for. /facepalm It doesn't bother you that in order to promote freedom of speech, you're also joining a bunch of bigots, who also happen to be oversensitive? They've just grown up in a society where their idiotic oversensitivity is more freely expressed.
A bigot is still a bigot, the members of that church and the American public just have the luxury of being ignorant of 'fighting words.'
In fact, were their actions directed towards a local mosque and not foreign nationals, it would probably be construed as a threat and the "freedom of speech" party would be crashed by a bunch of FBI agents.
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no wonder, i remember blackjack for racist comments and such. best jump in the fire with all the quran burners and all the haters from other countries. idiots... but yeah killing the other one before he can kill you is the most important thing in life.
i am ashamed that you are allowed here -.-
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I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it.
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What the hell? Quran burning, really? Sounds extremely childish to me. People need to grow up, seriously.
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And the cycle of ignorance and intolerance continues.
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My question is why did the media have to pick up on this? Chances are now that things will get blown way out of proportion. =\
Also I don't think that burning the Quran really solves anything in relation to 9/11, except for stereotyping a whole ethnicity and their religion based off of the actions of some crazy radicals. Seriously though, I don't see the need to join these crazy people. Sure some of the muslims may have burned American flags, but just let them do that and have the moral high ground by not reciprocating their actions, and again, don;t stereotpye a whole ethnicity based on the actions of a few of its memebers....
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and Im not sure about the former
Your words have never been more relevant Einstein.
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Maybe it is a community fundraiser? Buy a Quran for 5$ to help the childeren.
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On September 08 2010 06:39 cz wrote: I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it.
not saying responding with violence is good, but do you really think it is necessary to burn a book that means a lot to some people is nice? .. this reminds me of the neo nazis talking about freedom of speech...
See, this angers me, and i am no muslim and no US hater. i just dont like such people and i think the world would be better without them.
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On September 08 2010 06:39 cz wrote: I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it. That's not entirely true. If the intent is to intimidate, it may very well be illegal just as cross burning can be.
Also, there are far better ways to promote freedom of speech than book/cross burning.
If I were a muslim living in that county, I would take that church to civil court and get ton of money from it. You might not even need to be a FL resident, I'm not exactly sure on the law down there.
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On September 08 2010 06:46 green.at wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 06:39 cz wrote: I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it. not saying responding with violence is good, but do you really think it is necessary to burn a book that means a lot to some people is nice? .. this reminds me of the neo nazis talking about freedom of speech... See, this angers me, and i am no muslim and no US hater. i just dont like such people and i think the world would be better without them.
lol how did you get neo-nazi out of that, then conclude with "world would be better without them"
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On September 08 2010 06:47 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 06:39 cz wrote: I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it. That's not entirely true. If the intent is to intimidate, it may very well be illegal just as cross burning can be. Also, there are far better ways to promote freedom of speech than book/cross burning.
If it's illegal THAT is a serious issue. People should be able to burn whatever they want, holy book or not. Just because it's a special book to you doesn't mean the rest of the country has to follow your religious teachings (regarding the book itself). That is one of the basic legal principles that the United States is built upon, and that is why I partially want to see this burning happen: as a demonstration that it still holds true, no matter how intimidating or violently responsive Muslims are.
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This is one of those cases where we can do it, but we probably shouldn't do it. First off it doesn't commemorate shit, its just one group of fanatics pissing off an even more fanatical group. Why is it that all of the ignorant, flag wearing, racist, religious white think "That guy over there that I have never met, and we only know of each other through several intermediate proxies, has different beliefs then me and has been told to think I am satan, and I stand for everything that is wrong with the world. To prove him wrong Im going to burn the most important religious symbol he has"
Yeah, this is the path to peace...
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On September 08 2010 06:39 cz wrote: I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it.
Christianity is a "religion of peace" and yet there has been the crusades, the inquisition, the silent approval of the holocaust, not to mention all the horrific stuff done in the bible in gods name.
What the religion says doesn't matter because in the end its humans that are following the relgion, and humans are petty, vindictive, and violent
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On September 08 2010 06:48 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 06:47 Jibba wrote:On September 08 2010 06:39 cz wrote: I want to see them go ahead with it just to show that it's allowed in this country and riots in the Muslim world don't change that. Nobody will get hurt unless the adherents of the "religion of peace" are the ones doing it. That's not entirely true. If the intent is to intimidate, it may very well be illegal just as cross burning can be. Also, there are far better ways to promote freedom of speech than book/cross burning. If it's illegal and if it is THAT is a serious issue. People should be able to burn whatever they want, holy book or not. Just because it's a special book to you doesn't mean the rest of the country has to follow your religious teachings (regarding the book itself). Intimidation supersedes freedom of speech, just as I don't have the right to call your house and threaten to kill you.
I don't know if there's any state legislature regarding that kind of intimidation but I'm sure it'd go through a civil court.
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