EPTQuran burning in my city - Page 7
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infinity2k9
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QuanticHawk
United States32161 Posts
On September 08 2010 06:22 BlackJack wrote: I also want to show my support for the Quran burners. I wish that I could partake in the festivities as I would absolutely love knowing that my small actions contributed to pissing off millions of oversensitive morons around the world. It's not about being over sensitive though. It's the fact that this kind of festering hatred creates divide and unrest in our country. Getting mad and showing the world what a bunch of dumb intolerant fucks we are is exactly what the terrorists want us to do. Because of 9/11, we have pissed all over civil liberties, people are using hate to rationalize political decisions like in NYC, and that venom has spilled all over the public. It creates divisiveness and unrest. Burning Quran only fuels that fire. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
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MangoTango
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Housemd
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Fair?? Maybe Morally correct??? depends on the answers to the first two questions Legal??? Hell yea. An insult to every muslim around the world who had nothing to do with burning the American flag? yes. Don't approve. | ||
BroOd
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news
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On September 08 2010 06:35 Jibba wrote: It doesn't bother you that in order to promote freedom of speech, you're also joining a bunch of bigots, who also happen to be oversensitive? They've just grown up in a society where their idiotic oversensitivity is more freely expressed. A bigot is still a bigot, the members of that church and the American public just have the luxury of being ignorant of 'fighting words.' In fact, were their actions directed towards a local mosque and not foreign nationals, it would probably be construed as a threat and the "freedom of speech" party would be crashed by a bunch of FBI agents. This basically is the only problem, it might seem interesting to OP at first but in reality he will be spending time with a bunch of cretins that are just as crazy as extreme muslims about worshiping their own deity. Not like it's a gathering of philosophizing rebels trying to change the world, it's a bunch of brainwashed hicks. Could still be fun to watch though. | ||
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FabledIntegral
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
I just wanted to point this out: Great movie, I think everyone should check it out if they haven't already. It's a good look at what our world could very well come to. Idiots like the book burners think they're getting somewhere, but they're not accomplishing anything. Just thought I'd throw that out there. | ||
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news
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edit: okay there's a lot of bias in there, like that black kid who couldn't read, there's idiots like that in every country. Too much sensationalism in this. | ||
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On September 09 2010 06:24 News wrote: Interesting video about schools, is this actually true? I don't think it's this bad or is it? edit: okay there's a lot of bias in there, like that black kid who couldn't read, there's idiots like that in every country. Too much sensationalism in this. Yeah, that was the video that the other guy posted, I assume to demonstrate his belief that Americans are stupid. Personally, I don't think Americans are that dumb - I think we're all getting there. | ||
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On September 09 2010 06:46 News wrote: haha fair enough. Video went to shit towards the end btw. That's what I get for using the first Idiocracy video I found  | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
^ That's what I got from the OP | ||
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jon arbuckle
Canada443 Posts
Even some of the United States' more bigoted citizens are against this, and there's no way to construe this as anything other than one zealously ignorant understanding of an otherwise beautiful faith that can provide a strong moral guidepost for its adherents raging against another. What this "burning a Quran" thing does is paint this decade-long conflict as religiously motivated, which a) obscures the real problem, and b) reduces the maturity of the discourse over the conflict. The real problem concerns violent Wahhabist sects who oppose American/Western military bases, which they see as explicitly colonial, and the West's support for Israel, itself also an outcome of postcolonial infiltration. But they remain Wahhabists, not actual Muslims. The difference between these two is the difference between Vatican 2.0/looser Protestant sections of the worldwide Christian majority and like the fucking Amish. But the more people discuss this in terms of religion versus religion, us versus them (q.v. the whole New York mosque debate, where... + Show Spoiler [digression] + like, there's a mosque four blocks away from Ground Zero already, and if I were so inclined between Ground Zero and that mosque that's already there, I could buy a falafel with some doogh and then get my spank on at a porno store; it's New York City, and if you aren't living there and you think that it's insensitive to build a mosque two blocks away, you're being played by election season punditry Will this hurt American troops? I don't think it will hurt them any more than they're already threatened. This picture of an anti-Islam United States has already propagated to some degree amongst the more zealous radical Wahhabists (never met any of these people, mind you). Perhaps it could be used to distort how skeptical Muslims in these countries view this conflict, and therefore boost insurgency group numbers just a bit. But that's a consequence of distorting this dialogue to religious terms. It's disingenuous to ask whether this is legally protected by the Bill of Rights. Yeah, it is, as is shouting fire in a movie theater, or singing "Massa's in the Cold Ground" and doing a minstrel show on MLK Day. Ostensibly you can, but should you? Is this really the best thing you can think to do with the power of freedom of speech, something that billions don't have? I'm not completely sure that the OP isn't just trolling, but if you think burning Qurans on television is a good thing to do because it's going to make people angry, you can't be a day over 15. And if you still think like a misanthropic teenager in a closed world, where your worldview isn't challenged by this, and you're over the age of 15, then I have more pity than understanding or anger, and regret ever having posted in this topic. | ||
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PanN
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Ndugu
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koreasilver
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BlackJack
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On September 09 2010 09:35 LlamaNamedOsama wrote: "Hey I'm immature and relish the notion of pissing off random people who don't know just because I can since they're thousands of miles away. I'm going to explicitly acknowledge the fact that this would probably add fuel to the terrorist fire that would unnecessarily hurt American troops, but I don't care because I'm blinded by my own insanity!" ^ That's what I got from the OP Read beyond the OP and you will find my reasoning. It's more or less based upon Desensitization Maybe it's not the most sound theory, but I am really getting annoyed of the alternative that everyone offers these days which is "If drawing cartoons can get you killed, then don't draw cartoons. Problem solved!" Aren't you sickened to see the leaders of this country and the generals of our military trying to peer pressure some random hick out of burning a few books? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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Hey, this book is what you base your life and beliefs around. We're going to burn a bunch of copies of it. What, you don't like that? Man you're so oversensitive! Not that I have the same opinion as those people but for god or nature or whatever-you-believe-in's sake, try to be understanding of others and promote general well-being. So yes, I agree that we should be able to burn books if we want. But does it make you a massive asshole? Probably. | ||
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