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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 10:19:43
July 26 2010 21:33 GMT
#1
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Pokemon Stat Totals:
+ Show Spoiler +
Typhlosion: 534
Victreebell: 480
Haunter: 405
Butterfree: 385
Heracross: 500
Poliwrath: 500
Lanturn: 460
Quagsire: 430
Xatu: 470
Arcanine: 555
Espeon: 525
Miltank: 490
Ursaring: 500
Dragonite: 600
Dugtrio: 405
Tyranitar: 600


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...

****
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 26 2010 21:40 GMT
#2
What's your starter?

And name Diglett, Manlett.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 26 2010 21:42 GMT
#3
whoa that is a pretty legit lineup of allowed pokemon (by that i mean larvitar and dratini are )

wait no flyers except dragonite? can natu/xatu fly??
Writer
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 21:44:22
July 26 2010 21:42 GMT
#4
Starter is a Cyndaquill named George (for flamewheel)

EDIT: I don't think Natu can fly but Xatu can.
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
July 26 2010 21:43 GMT
#5
Diglett

It's a tooth
Can you feel the rush?
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2010 21:46 GMT
#6
You can only use pokeballs to catch pokemons. That includes Ho-Oh/Lugia and the Legendary Dogs(or Cats).
The max level your pokemon can be is *Highest level that badge allows* - 10.
No TMs.
Can only teach HM to 1 pokemon.
darkness overpowering
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 26 2010 21:48 GMT
#7
On July 27 2010 06:46 ghrur wrote:
You can only use pokeballs to catch pokemons. That includes Ho-Oh/Lugia and the Legendary Dogs(or Cats).
The max level your pokemon can be is *Highest level that badge allows* - 10.
No TMs.
Can only teach HM to 1 pokemon.

No legendaries allowed (not in the list). But I like the Pokeballs only idea regardless.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 21:49:10
July 26 2010 21:48 GMT
#8
how bout you come and play some damned bw with me instead !!!
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 26 2010 21:49 GMT
#9
Instead of releasing fainted pokemon, try this:

No recovering HP or status at pokecenters. No buying revives, but you can use any you find. More fun, IMO, since you won't be running back to the pokecenter after every battle.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 26 2010 21:51 GMT
#10
besiger: Sorry, I'm dodging ZvT from now on (SC2 did a number on my BW skills).
B1nary: Sounds like a good idea except how do you recover PP?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 26 2010 21:52 GMT
#11
On July 27 2010 06:49 B1nary wrote:
Instead of releasing fainted pokemon, try this:

No recovering HP or status at pokecenters. No buying revives, but you can use any you find. More fun, IMO, since you won't be running back to the pokecenter after every battle.


I agree...this is lots more fun ^^ I have tried this myself...and it gets you through the game faster
Jaedong :3
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 26 2010 21:54 GMT
#12
You can still use pokecenters to recover PP but you have to make your entire team is at full health and have no status conditions beforehand.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
July 26 2010 21:56 GMT
#13
How about no Evo allowed?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 26 2010 22:05 GMT
#14
On July 27 2010 06:42 ]343[ wrote:
whoa that is a pretty legit lineup of allowed pokemon (by that i mean larvitar and dratini are )

wait no flyers except dragonite? can natu/xatu fly??

Xatu can.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
July 26 2010 22:07 GMT
#15
Also Saracen I thought you were getting sc2? 8)
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 26 2010 22:07 GMT
#16
On July 27 2010 07:05 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 06:42 ]343[ wrote:
whoa that is a pretty legit lineup of allowed pokemon (by that i mean larvitar and dratini are )

wait no flyers except dragonite? can natu/xatu fly??

Xatu can.


lulz ok

should i play pokemon right now

i'm thinking no
Writer
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 26 2010 22:11 GMT
#17
On July 27 2010 06:54 B1nary wrote:
You can still use pokecenters to recover PP but you have to make your entire team is at full health and have no status conditions beforehand.

That seems kind of clunky. I wish they just sold ethers lol. It would make everything so much better.

On July 27 2010 06:56 Joey.rumz wrote:
How about no Evo allowed?

That would be so annoying to have to constantly stop evolutions every time a Pokemon leveled up lol.

On another note, I might want to replace certain Pokemon since they come too late into the game to be of any real use (Teddiursa, Diglett, Dratini, Larvitar, except I just love Dragonite so much T_T).
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 26 2010 22:41 GMT
#18
Update: got a Cyndaquil named George as my starter and he's fucking cute as hell.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 26 2010 22:46 GMT
#19
Can you please name one of them Juicy. i think that would add a lot of depth to your lineup! haha
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 22:59:26
July 26 2010 22:46 GMT
#20
On July 27 2010 06:33 Saracen wrote:
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...


You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.

I would be impressed, however, if you:
1) remove Miltank and Heracross
2) disallow any evolutions
3) only one pokemon per species

NOTE: It seems that none of the pokemons you listed can learn Fly (not considering their evolutions).
:]
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2010 22:55 GMT
#21
On July 27 2010 07:46 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 06:33 Saracen wrote:
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...


You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.


Dragon Dance doesn't exist in GSC.
darkness overpowering
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 26 2010 23:17 GMT
#22
On July 27 2010 07:46 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 06:33 Saracen wrote:
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...


You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.

I would be impressed, however, if you:
1) remove Miltank and Heracross
2) disallow any evolutions
3) only one pokemon per species

NOTE: It seems that none of the pokemons you listed can learn Fly (not considering their evolutions).


I think those are pretty reasonable choices. Alot of them are powerful, but have gimmicks that make them weak early in the game. Dratini comes pretty late in the game and doesn't evolve to Dragonite until level 60-something(?). Larvitar doesn't come until after the Elite 4. Gastly has to be traded to evolve into Gengar, which may not be possible. Arcanine is good stats-wise but has a really shitty learnset, especially without breeding.

Heracross is the only one I would consider a bit imba for this, but it's also one of favourite pokes so I won't complain ^^
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 26 2010 23:25 GMT
#23
On July 27 2010 07:55 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 07:46 illu wrote:
On July 27 2010 06:33 Saracen wrote:
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...


You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.


Dragon Dance doesn't exist in GSC.


This, and also, how is he ever going to get half of those pokemon you listed early enough to make a difference? Seriously?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
July 26 2010 23:40 GMT
#24
Hah nice that sounds like fun i may have to do it :D I played a few months back and nicknamed all my pokemon after progamers that seemed like they suited. It actually made it even more awesome n_n
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 26 2010 23:40 GMT
#25
You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.


Dratini and Larvitar are definitely pretty big helps. Dratini + starter is probably enough to take out all of the E4, especially if you have Heracross too.

Haunter is pretty shitty so unless he can trade and isn't emulating (...which would suck, grinding on a gameboy) that won't make a big difference.

Growlithe he won't need because of starter ;_;

Bell & Poli: I'm not sure if you can buy the evolution stones in GSC (Goldenrod)? Or is that Celadon only, or just not at all? If you can buy them then lol Typhlosion/Victreebel/Poliwrath/Dragonite/Heracross/Ursaring @ elite four, beast combo

Lanturn is my favourite second-gen pokemon

You're really stretching with Natu there hehe


This, and also, how is he ever going to get half of those pokemon you listed early enough to make a difference? Seriously?


GSC has Kanto region. So... half the game, yea.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 00:14:04
July 27 2010 00:02 GMT
#26
I think you guys are overestimating my ability to keep Pokemon alive lol. Also, Ursaring/Dragonite don't come until right before the Elite Four, and I don't really have the patience to level them up and evolve them so quickly. And Larvitar comes much later. I can't evolve to Gengar, and the Kanto half of the game is really small compared to the Johto half.
Also, I really don't mind doing this without Dratini/Larvitar.
chennis
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan227 Posts
July 27 2010 00:28 GMT
#27
and i thought you can only get elemental stones from bill, or is that just for gold and silver...

anyways if thats the case then poliwrath and victreebel comes way late.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 27 2010 00:43 GMT
#28
For GSC, no, you can't buy the stones.
You get moon stones randomly.
You get Sun-stone from the bug contests.
You get fire/leaf/thunder/water either from hidden places or from that guy where Bill's house is in Red.
However, you can duplicate fairly easily in GSC(tiny bit harder in Crystal) sooooooooooooooooo
darkness overpowering
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
July 27 2010 00:44 GMT
#29
How about no evasion boosting skills as well? Just 'cuz it's way too easy to power out a bunch of Double Teams and just face rape whatever else can come at you. I would say stat boosting at all, but who wants to say no to Swords Dance?
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 27 2010 01:18 GMT
#30
George just solo'd sprout tower, and I caught Juicy on Route 31 and then leveled him up a bit in Dark Cave while searching for a Teddiursa. I never found one though .

Alright about to take on Falkner. My lineup:
George (Quilava) L16
Juicy (Bellsprout) L12
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 27 2010 02:10 GMT
#31
On July 27 2010 07:55 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 07:46 illu wrote:
On July 27 2010 06:33 Saracen wrote:
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...


You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.


Dragon Dance doesn't exist in GSC.


Ops. Noted. Thanks for telling me this.
:]
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 27 2010 02:12 GMT
#32
On July 27 2010 08:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 07:55 ghrur wrote:
On July 27 2010 07:46 illu wrote:
On July 27 2010 06:33 Saracen wrote:
Gonna play G/S again with my own rules:
1. Can only catch the following Pokemon, chosen by Milkis and Flamewheel: Miltank - Chinchou - Wooper - Eevee - Bellsprout - Heracross - Teddiursa - Larvitar - Natu - Poliwag - Caterpie - Diglett - Gastly - Growlithe - Dratini
2. Must nickname them, and can only catch them once
3. If they faint, they must be released
4. Battle mode on set
5. No items in battle

Pokemon Locations:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, Johto Routes start at Route 29 and go up to Route 46.
Bellsprout - Routes 5, 6, 24, 25, 31, 32, and 36
Gastly - Routes 31, 32, and 36, Tin Tower, Sprout Tower
Caterpie - Routes 2, 24, 25, 30, and 31, Ilex Forest, National Park, Bug-Catching Contest
Heracross - Headbutt trees
Poliwag - Routes 16, 22, 28, 30, 31, 35, 43, and 44, Ruins of Alph, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Violet City, Mt. Silver, Viridian City, and Blackthorn City (Fish)
Chinchou - Routes 26 and 27, New Bark Town, Union Cave, Olivine City, Pallet Town, Vermilion City, Cinnabar Island
Wooper - Route 32, Ruins of Alph, Union Cave (night)
Natu - Ruins of Alph
Growlithe - Routes 8, 36, and 37 (Day)
Eevee - Gift from Bill
Miltank - Routes 38 and 39 (Day)
Teddiursa - Dark Cave
Dratini - Dragon's Den and Route 45
Diglett - Diglett's Cave
Larvitar - Mt. Silver (Day), Rocket Game Corner


Any other suggestions? I'm definitely not as diligent as TheAntZ, so I won't be making a huge Pokemon thread, but it should be fun for me at least...


You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.


Dragon Dance doesn't exist in GSC.


This, and also, how is he ever going to get half of those pokemon you listed early enough to make a difference? Seriously?


You know, the starter is also available... that's a free, powerful species already.
:]
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 02:24:24
July 27 2010 02:23 GMT
#33
If you make it with at least four level 45's to the leet four, I'd say you can't level them any more until you've entered the leet four place and the doors slam shut. This is to discourage you from getting a level 85 tyflosion before facing them. (This kid I knew did this in g/s -_-, tyflosion one shot struggled through a lot of them.)

So to clarify, max level 45 before facing leet four.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 27 2010 02:31 GMT
#34
On July 27 2010 11:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
If you make it with at least four level 45's to the leet four, I'd say you can't level them any more until you've entered the leet four place and the doors slam shut. This is to discourage you from getting a level 85 tyflosion before facing them. (This kid I knew did this in g/s -_-, tyflosion one shot struggled through a lot of them.)

So to clarify, max level 45 before facing leet four.

Good idea

Just caught a Wooper named Woopass in Route 32. He's so cute
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 02:38:04
July 27 2010 02:32 GMT
#35
On July 27 2010 06:49 B1nary wrote:
Instead of releasing fainted pokemon, try this:

No recovering HP or status at pokecenters. No buying revives, but you can use any you find. More fun, IMO, since you won't be running back to the pokecenter after every battle.


I've done it before. It's rough early on, but once you get to buy TMs it's not that bad, and all you do is just overlevel after this. It's not worth the trouble imo

You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.

I would be impressed, however, if you:
1) remove Miltank and Heracross
2) disallow any evolutions
3) only one pokemon per species

NOTE: It seems that none of the pokemons you listed can learn Fly (not considering their evolutions).


Enjoy using Heracross when it only learns Megahorn level 50+, and your best STAB for the entire game is Brick Break.

Secondly, Gastly/Haunter absolutely blows ingame until it learns Shadow Ball... except for the fact that Shadow Ball is *physical* in GSC. That's right, enjoy your physical Haunter, which means you'll be relying on HMs the entire game to do any damage. Gastly/Haunter's only attacking move is... Night Shade for the most of the game until you get some nice TMs.

Larvitar comes way too late to be any use, unless you want to use that to beat Red. Dratini? By the time you get Dratini, Dragon Rage is no longer broken and it's honestly pathetic. I'm hoping Saracen gets the Extreme Speed Dratini, which he gets at the last gym of the game and remember that Dratini has the steepest leveling curve in the game.

Fire Pokemon suck. Have you even looked at their movepool? And Teddiursa being the second best normal type? I don't know where you get that from honestly.

Honestly... in the end, this is for fun. I don't know why you came in all of a sudden and started bitching about how Saracen shouldn't have fun
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 27 2010 03:40 GMT
#36
On July 27 2010 11:32 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 06:49 B1nary wrote:
Instead of releasing fainted pokemon, try this:

No recovering HP or status at pokecenters. No buying revives, but you can use any you find. More fun, IMO, since you won't be running back to the pokecenter after every battle.


I've done it before. It's rough early on, but once you get to buy TMs it's not that bad, and all you do is just overlevel after this. It's not worth the trouble imo

Show nested quote +
You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.

I would be impressed, however, if you:
1) remove Miltank and Heracross
2) disallow any evolutions
3) only one pokemon per species

NOTE: It seems that none of the pokemons you listed can learn Fly (not considering their evolutions).


Enjoy using Heracross when it only learns Megahorn level 50+, and your best STAB for the entire game is Brick Break.

Secondly, Gastly/Haunter absolutely blows ingame until it learns Shadow Ball... except for the fact that Shadow Ball is *physical* in GSC. That's right, enjoy your physical Haunter, which means you'll be relying on HMs the entire game to do any damage. Gastly/Haunter's only attacking move is... Night Shade for the most of the game until you get some nice TMs.

Larvitar comes way too late to be any use, unless you want to use that to beat Red. Dratini? By the time you get Dratini, Dragon Rage is no longer broken and it's honestly pathetic. I'm hoping Saracen gets the Extreme Speed Dratini, which he gets at the last gym of the game and remember that Dratini has the steepest leveling curve in the game.

Fire Pokemon suck. Have you even looked at their movepool? And Teddiursa being the second best normal type? I don't know where you get that from honestly.

Honestly... in the end, this is for fun. I don't know why you came in all of a sudden and started bitching about how Saracen shouldn't have fun


Brick break doesn't exist either, lol...
There really isn't a STAB attack because I told him not to use TMs (that's if he listens).
If he doesn't, (I'll kill him JK), he can get... rocksmash... lol. And dynamic punch? But the best physical attack is like strength or take down for him until megahorn at level 54, lol.
And there was an extreme speed Dratini? What? I never got it in gold. And I think I missed it in my crystal. >_< *CRAP*
darkness overpowering
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 27 2010 04:04 GMT
#37
On July 27 2010 12:40 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 11:32 Milkis wrote:
On July 27 2010 06:49 B1nary wrote:
Instead of releasing fainted pokemon, try this:

No recovering HP or status at pokecenters. No buying revives, but you can use any you find. More fun, IMO, since you won't be running back to the pokecenter after every battle.


I've done it before. It's rough early on, but once you get to buy TMs it's not that bad, and all you do is just overlevel after this. It's not worth the trouble imo

You got to be joking. What is the point of this challenge? You basically picked all of the good pokemon out there for G/S, including the two pseudo-legendaries (Dratini, Larvitar), best Ghost pokemon (Gastly), best Bug pokemon (Heracross), best Fire pokemon (Growlithe), second-best Normal pokemon (Teddi; the best is probably Snorlax). Also Bellsprout and Poliwag are two very good lines of pokemon with three stages of evolution. Wooper and Chincou are very good because of their typing, Natu and Miltank are versatile with decent statistics in every category.

There is really no point in this challenge if you are allowed to evolve those species. All you need is a Dragonite with Dragon Dance to sweep through everything. If that fails, you can also breed a Larvitar with Dragon Dance (thanks to the availability of the Dratini family).

Even if you do not allow evolution of those species as well as for your starter, this will still be quite easy because Miltank, which doesn't have any evolutions, is a very good pokemon. She has high speed, high HP, high (s)def, and a usable attack. Just make her learn Strength and utilize her STAB. If she is low on HP, she can even heal herself.

I would be impressed, however, if you:
1) remove Miltank and Heracross
2) disallow any evolutions
3) only one pokemon per species

NOTE: It seems that none of the pokemons you listed can learn Fly (not considering their evolutions).


Enjoy using Heracross when it only learns Megahorn level 50+, and your best STAB for the entire game is Brick Break.

Secondly, Gastly/Haunter absolutely blows ingame until it learns Shadow Ball... except for the fact that Shadow Ball is *physical* in GSC. That's right, enjoy your physical Haunter, which means you'll be relying on HMs the entire game to do any damage. Gastly/Haunter's only attacking move is... Night Shade for the most of the game until you get some nice TMs.

Larvitar comes way too late to be any use, unless you want to use that to beat Red. Dratini? By the time you get Dratini, Dragon Rage is no longer broken and it's honestly pathetic. I'm hoping Saracen gets the Extreme Speed Dratini, which he gets at the last gym of the game and remember that Dratini has the steepest leveling curve in the game.

Fire Pokemon suck. Have you even looked at their movepool? And Teddiursa being the second best normal type? I don't know where you get that from honestly.

Honestly... in the end, this is for fun. I don't know why you came in all of a sudden and started bitching about how Saracen shouldn't have fun


Brick break doesn't exist either, lol...
There really isn't a STAB attack because I told him not to use TMs (that's if he listens).
If he doesn't, (I'll kill him JK), he can get... rocksmash... lol. And dynamic punch? But the best physical attack is like strength or take down for him until megahorn at level 54, lol.
And there was an extreme speed Dratini? What? I never got it in gold. And I think I missed it in my crystal. >_< *CRAP*

You cant get it in gold, and you can go back anytime to get it in crystal. Go to the Dragon den, Take the old man's quiz and tell him how much you love pokemon. Leave the cave, and talk to him again.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 27 2010 04:07 GMT
#38
My reach spreads far and wide, and brings fond memories of and the desire to play POKEMON! >:D
Why dont you play HG/SS though?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 27 2010 04:09 GMT
#39
On July 27 2010 13:07 TheAntZ wrote:
My reach spreads far and wide, and brings fond memories of and the desire to play POKEMON! >:D
Why dont you play HG/SS though?

You've truly inspired me. I don't want to fight with my DS emulator to try to get HG/SS to work. I might get a real DS for Black/White though
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 27 2010 04:20 GMT
#40
Brick break doesn't exist either, lol...


lol, I guess I'm that used to RSE gen
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 27 2010 04:28 GMT
#41
On July 27 2010 13:20 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
Brick break doesn't exist either, lol...


lol, I guess I'm that used to RSE gen


And I am too used to GEN4 ...
:]
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 27 2010 04:32 GMT
#42
On July 27 2010 13:09 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 13:07 TheAntZ wrote:
My reach spreads far and wide, and brings fond memories of and the desire to play POKEMON! >:D
Why dont you play HG/SS though?

You've truly inspired me. I don't want to fight with my DS emulator to try to get HG/SS to work. I might get a real DS for Black/White though


I think I might get a DS sometime next year, too many sequels to GBA games that i loved D:
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 28 2010 09:37 GMT
#43
On July 27 2010 13:09 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 13:07 TheAntZ wrote:
My reach spreads far and wide, and brings fond memories of and the desire to play POKEMON! >:D
Why dont you play HG/SS though?

You've truly inspired me. I don't want to fight with my DS emulator to try to get HG/SS to work. I might get a real DS for Black/White though


This is my plan as well. Fuck school.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 29 2010 15:29 GMT
#44
Off to fight Bugsy

Lineup:
George (Quilava) L20
Woopass (Wooper) L15
Juicy (Bellsprout) L14
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