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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 08:49:03
June 22 2010 08:30 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: Oh and if youre one of those rare 2-3% whos got a top arena team or something of the like and you're currently being sponsored and making a living off it more power to you. This does not apply to you.
Clearing up some misunderstanding I've played WoW and plan to play it when the expansion comes out, because I enjoy the game as well as the community but I'm going to make damn sure that I don't confuse my priorities when I start getting into raiding etc.

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If it bothers you that much then just quit already



Justifiable Nerdrage



Bear with me as I just got through reading another 'oh noes I'm addicted to WoW thread', honestly this is just a test of self control. If anyone accuses me of being addicted to something I immediatley ask myself is it something I can just drop and forget about. The real issue with WoW isn't even the game, its how it forces you into a community where you are 'needed' something that is a weakness and a strength on the human psyche.
Aside from the standard reporduction and survival, a great portion of people growing up have a wanting to be useful to someone, a form of recognition. WoW offers that to the most insignificant person not to mention so LITTLE work is require to achieve it, you could be needed as many as 50 people if you're the best geared for progression.
This then skews your priorities, you judge these people as more important to family or friends you live and interact with(hopefully) on a daily basis. Most of the time the people who want you to stop playing are people you had a bad relationship to begin with stemming from the same problem which WoW is solving, a 'place to belong' so to speak.

WoW in itself is a food for the neverending desire to be 'wanted' or 'needed' by someone, whether they be a small insignificant person or a whole damn lot of people, argue as much as you like when you have people cheering you on for accomplishments that take absolutley nothing. THEN compare the amount of thankless work it is required to acheve just about anything in society. Even then you can go unnnoticed unless you do something AMAZING, it's completly understandable why people would choose to play WoW over anything else.
You still have remind yourself that as good as this feels now it isn't going to mean shit later. Oh so you helped them out on a server first and your name is posted on some website with gold trimmings and little cherubs holding your name on a banner made in your glory. That isn't redeemable for a food stamp, you've got a frost drake for doing all the heroic achievements in ICC25man, but that thing isn't going to get you to a job interview. Whenever I heard any lines like that, pointing out to me just how useless it was all those little achievemnts I'd get, or epics I'd found, it pissed me off. It's even more infuriating when you KNOW its true, and yet you keeep doing it.

In short, the game is designed so well that people can get the recognition they desire with the most minimum effort. Those are the people who are most susceptible to addiction, the ones who have had a history of being outshined, or just going unnoticed for the greater portion of their life. (I am guilty of this)
+ Show Spoiler [mini testimony] +

Almost a month ago I was apart of TL's WoW guild, as well as an arena partner to ToT)Midian. During that time I was under a terrible delusion that nothing could be accomplished without me. This comes back from when I used to idolize ToT in my Brood War days, and my little fanboy self who had remained buried cries out to me 'OH LOOK SOMEONE IMPORTANT NEEDS YOU, THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT THING RIGHT NOW'. I would be lieing if I didn't say that I was ashamed of those delusions, but I have to say I felt a lot better realizing exactly what was keeping me held down when playing. I wanted to truly understand what was it that made it so hard to quit. Of course this isn't the same case for everyone but the main point still holds true, whether its a delusion or reality that people are relying on you.


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Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 09:00:26
June 22 2010 08:36 GMT
#2
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 09:00:31
June 22 2010 08:41 GMT
#3
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
June 22 2010 08:46 GMT
#4
Ya, I raided pretty hardcore in BC, came back after quitting and got above 2200+ in arena in WotLK with terrible gear then quit again. It really does take little effort (but normally a lot of time) to be important. And honestly, so many people have huge egos even when they have really been carried by their guild/partners. I'm sure raiders know of people in their guilds that always seem to fuck up yet have awesome gear. Personally, the game turned more into a task or job I had to do and I stopped having any fun, despite having a lot of friends who played it. I still laugh at experiences I had with guildmates but they were more about just talking with people than the actual game. The game just got incredibly boring by the time BC was coming to the end (I started playing WoW around the release of BC) and I only lasted around 2 months in WotLK in my comeback from quitting. At least now I have absolutely no want to play WoW ever again lol.
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
June 22 2010 08:49 GMT
#5
On June 22 2010 17:36 jodogohoo wrote:
1. i agree with you, i fucking hate wow, i hate its players, wow is fucking for retards
2. disregard #1
3. wow makes people happy, but it also turns them into retards, not all of them, but if your playing a computer game that takes no skill 8 hours a day, CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION, then your not spending that time doing other shit.
4. BUT, bottom line is, wow makes people happy, what the fuck is wrong with making people happy? yeah. exactly.


Don't hate the game hate the player yo.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 09:00:36
June 22 2010 08:55 GMT
#6
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
June 22 2010 09:00 GMT
#7
i just realized i have reading comprehension fail
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 22 2010 09:46 GMT
#8
why aren't you on irc anymore. i miss ethnic diversity and watermelon tuesdays.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 22 2010 10:08 GMT
#9
I don't play WoW but when some1 showed me that video of Frankie's wow acct getting hacked I felt so bad for that guy.
bisu fanboy
7thCircle
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands6 Posts
June 22 2010 10:09 GMT
#10
I've played WoW since its original release with 1-2 month breaks here and there. I quit around 5 months back because i no longer had the time to support playing it. Before that i spent most my time hard core raiding.

I can really see the point your making about being needed because i came into a similar situation where my guild started relying on a very small group of people(me included) to tow a a very large group of people forward. And it really did become an issue of self control where none of us wanted to start sacrificing time spend on friends or family in order to play because there were others relying on them. Often forcing tough choices on how to spend your time.

Though i have to say its not all down to being needed or not. If you know your own limits its perfectly fine to spend alot of time on any game. Most games wont land you a job or a relationship or anything like that but you play for fun in the end. So long as you dont start sacrificing your personal life its perfectly fine to have fun with games.

Ill never look back on any of my WoW time or game time in general and think "Jeez i wasted so much time i couldve spent on studie/work/friends/whatever" because i never sacrificed anything in order to play. Sure ive replanned things around raids a few times but i never came to point that i canceled anything in my social life in order to raid. Thats probebly also why i can resume playing when Cataclysm is released and i have a little more free time on my hands.
Jaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States274 Posts
June 22 2010 10:15 GMT
#11
the game is designed so well that people can get the recognition they desire with the most minimum effort.


so true. what so funny is that people take so much prides in their meaningless achievements that they look down and belittle other players with lesser achievements. I raided 40nax back in the day and killed kt before BC came out. After i quit raiding and joined a different server to play casually with IRL friend. the same people that i had been raiding with for 4 years started badmouthing me to my new server.In short, WoW player are really mean asshole.

nice blog i agree with most of it.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
June 22 2010 10:45 GMT
#12
Mono . We miss u on IRC and op IRC bro! Get back to us! Good read though XD. Hope you're ok and doing great!
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
June 22 2010 11:00 GMT
#13
On June 22 2010 17:30 Monokeros wrote:
You still have remind yourself that as good as this feels now it isn't going to mean shit later.

Unfortunately that applies to life in general does it not?
If people seriously enjoy WoW I don't see why they shouldn't play it. Although it may not be the greatest act of aid to humanity, it certainly beats a lot of negative things you could be doing.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 22 2010 13:53 GMT
#14
Yeah, it's not like knitting or playing golf or whatever contributes so much more to society. As long as you can let go when you need to there's nothing wrong with WoW.
CorpulentBanana
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
169 Posts
June 22 2010 16:46 GMT
#15
I used to play, but it severely affected my social/school life, so much so that I was BSing people I knew to stay home and raid rather than hang out. Eventually I got so super busy at school, I just stopped playing. I renewed my account for a couple of months after that, but hardly played, so I decided to just not renew. I picked up WotLK and played till I got 1 80, then decided that it was too easy and also that I was too far behind to fully enjoy the raiding scene (which is what I liked about the game).

WoW is easy to quit. Just focus on RL, and it solves the problem for you.
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 20:43:16
June 22 2010 20:42 GMT
#16
Wow I skipped the first part of your post.

Hell yeah man!
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 20:48:55
June 22 2010 20:47 GMT
#17
Ever since they introduced arenas and improved PvP rewards I've never had any trouble maintaining top or near-top gear on an 1-3 hours a week played purely for fun. I'm happy to say I can enjoy WoW intermittently like any other game. The only difference is WoW can cost me money even if I'm not playing, so I have to intentionally choose to stop playing for a month or two when I'm getting tired of PvPing.

The "needed" thing is totally accurate though. I always felt guilty ditching a raid because our guild had a really small roster.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
foozoo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States26 Posts
June 22 2010 23:21 GMT
#18
Once the servers are back online I'm gonna go knock out all the Midsummer achievements and get my purple protodrake.

There is also a new patch released today with new raid content (along with some limited features of Battle.net, namely real-id). You guys should probably log back in and check it out!

Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
June 22 2010 23:27 GMT
#19
I knew a kid who would stay home all day and play WoW. We tried to get him to come outside, but he would answer the door in his underwear or something and say he was "busy".
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
June 23 2010 05:05 GMT
#20
wow i've never thought of it this way thank you for your highly original revelation of a post, the content of which hasn't been said 50000 times before in the exact same way
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