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On May 31 2010 13:17 Bosu wrote: 16/hour isn't very good. It is pretty average in an area with a low cost of living. To add a little perspective, that only an annual salary of $30,720 full-time (I think the poverty level is like $28,000, so, YIKES I am retarded, please see posts below), 25% of which you'll never see (those damned mandatory deductions), the rest going to bills, debt, and necessities. You would eventually would find a job that pays over $26/hour do get an annual salary of a "managable" $50,000, but I dont see how you'll find that with a high school diploma.
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Obviously just finish your degree. Putting (B. Sc.) after your name is great!
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btw a stupid and totally unrelated question: in my previous sentence, would it be better to say "dunno if its the same thing in the USA" or "dunno if its the same thing in the US"? i never really understood when exactly u used US and when USA.
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Of course I would advocate finishing your degree... but if I had to choose then learn a trade... my experience is that the military won't really get you where you want to go. The people you deal with won't be especially pleasant in any case.
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On May 31 2010 13:27 Black Gun wrote: btw a stupid and totally unrelated question: in my previous sentence, would it be better to say "dunno if its the same thing in the USA" or "dunno if its the same thing in the US"? i never really understood when exactly u used US and when USA.
There is no difference. Use "USA" in a term paper, and US anywhere else I guess lol
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On May 31 2010 13:30 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:27 Black Gun wrote: btw a stupid and totally unrelated question: in my previous sentence, would it be better to say "dunno if its the same thing in the USA" or "dunno if its the same thing in the US"? i never really understood when exactly u used US and when USA.
There is no difference. Use "USA" in a term paper, and US anywhere else I guess lol
Currently there is only one United States, I think. So it causes no confusions.
Historically there were other countries also called united states of ***.
EDIT: I found it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Belgium
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Finish the degree. Don't be a bum.
And since when is $16/hr considered "really good pay"?
Good luck.
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On May 31 2010 13:30 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:27 Black Gun wrote: btw a stupid and totally unrelated question: in my previous sentence, would it be better to say "dunno if its the same thing in the USA" or "dunno if its the same thing in the US"? i never really understood when exactly u used US and when USA.
There is no difference. Use "USA" in a term paper, and US anywhere else I guess lol yeah us is just casual speech
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On May 31 2010 13:35 illu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:30 InTheFade wrote:On May 31 2010 13:27 Black Gun wrote: btw a stupid and totally unrelated question: in my previous sentence, would it be better to say "dunno if its the same thing in the USA" or "dunno if its the same thing in the US"? i never really understood when exactly u used US and when USA.
There is no difference. Use "USA" in a term paper, and US anywhere else I guess lol Currently there is only one United States, I think. So it causes no confusions. Historically there were other countries also called united states of ***. EDIT: I found it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Belgium I was only implying that USA is more formal.
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On May 31 2010 13:26 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:17 Bosu wrote: 16/hour isn't very good. It is pretty average in an area with a low cost of living. To add a little perspective, that only an annual salary of $30,720 full-time (I think the poverty level is like $28,000, so, YIKES), 25% of which you'll never see (those damned mandatory deductions), the rest going to bills, debt, and necessities. You would eventually would find a job that pays over $26/hour do get an annual salary of a "managable" $50,000, but I dont see how you'll find that with a high school diploma.
I know plenty of people who aren't even close to the "manageable" $50,000 a year and make it work. There's less money for luxuries, but you can get by and live decently with far less and $50k a year.
Also take into account a working wife/husband.
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On May 31 2010 13:37 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:35 illu wrote:On May 31 2010 13:30 InTheFade wrote:On May 31 2010 13:27 Black Gun wrote: btw a stupid and totally unrelated question: in my previous sentence, would it be better to say "dunno if its the same thing in the USA" or "dunno if its the same thing in the US"? i never really understood when exactly u used US and when USA.
There is no difference. Use "USA" in a term paper, and US anywhere else I guess lol Currently there is only one United States, I think. So it causes no confusions. Historically there were other countries also called united states of ***. EDIT: I found it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Belgium I was only implying that USA is more formal.
I am just saying that the term without the 'A' causes no confusions.
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On May 31 2010 13:26 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:17 Bosu wrote: 16/hour isn't very good. It is pretty average in an area with a low cost of living. To add a little perspective, that only an annual salary of $30,720 full-time (I think the poverty level is like $28,000, so, YIKES), 25% of which you'll never see (those damned mandatory deductions), the rest going to bills, debt, and necessities. You would eventually would find a job that pays over $26/hour do get an annual salary of a "managable" $50,000, but I dont see how you'll find that with a high school diploma.
lol. 16/hour is not THAT bad. the poverty line in the USA is $10,830 for a single person.
With 16/hour you can make well over that. You can live very comfortably on 16/hour. You will just not be able to buy everything your heart desires.
If his job didn't have solid benefits and health insurance though things get a bit tougher.
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On May 31 2010 13:28 meeple wrote: Of course I would advocate finishing your degree... but if I had to choose then learn a trade... my experience is that the military won't really get you where you want to go. The people you deal with won't be especially pleasant in any case.
I kinda of want to use the military as an escape to go/live else where, i.e. a different country. So that's why I have it as an option. In my opinion the military in general has a bad rap, but its not so bad if you take a closer look at it and see some of the options it has. It's basically a regular job after training. Only difference is that you are obligated to four years.
They also have a loan repayment program which they offer to repay up to $10k in college loans duing your service.
Am really hoping someone in the military offers their opinion on it.
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On May 31 2010 13:38 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:26 InTheFade wrote:On May 31 2010 13:17 Bosu wrote: 16/hour isn't very good. It is pretty average in an area with a low cost of living. To add a little perspective, that only an annual salary of $30,720 full-time (I think the poverty level is like $28,000, so, YIKES), 25% of which you'll never see (those damned mandatory deductions), the rest going to bills, debt, and necessities. You would eventually would find a job that pays over $26/hour do get an annual salary of a "managable" $50,000, but I dont see how you'll find that with a high school diploma. lol. 16/hour is not THAT bad. the poverty line in the USA is $10,830 for a single person. With 16/hour you can make well over that. You can live very comfortably on 16/hour. You will just not be able to buy everything your heart desires. If his job didn't have solid benefits and health insurance though things get a bit tougher.
I really think 16 dollars an hour is really bad, especially for a 22-years-old.
Then again maybe I am a bit too high on competitive spirits..
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On May 31 2010 13:41 illu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:38 Bosu wrote:On May 31 2010 13:26 InTheFade wrote:On May 31 2010 13:17 Bosu wrote: 16/hour isn't very good. It is pretty average in an area with a low cost of living. To add a little perspective, that only an annual salary of $30,720 full-time (I think the poverty level is like $28,000, so, YIKES), 25% of which you'll never see (those damned mandatory deductions), the rest going to bills, debt, and necessities. You would eventually would find a job that pays over $26/hour do get an annual salary of a "managable" $50,000, but I dont see how you'll find that with a high school diploma. lol. 16/hour is not THAT bad. the poverty line in the USA is $10,830 for a single person. With 16/hour you can make well over that. You can live very comfortably on 16/hour. You will just not be able to buy everything your heart desires. If his job didn't have solid benefits and health insurance though things get a bit tougher. I really think 16 dollars an hour is really bad, especially for a 22-years-old. Then again maybe I am a bit too high on competitive spirits..
It's not great by any means. But there are plenty of people in the USA that make less and do fine.
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Honestly, I don't see why you wouldn't finish your degree. You think its not useful now, and granted, you probably won't work in that field and finishing your degree won't make you much smarter or anything. But to the eyes of others who are in a position to give you a job, the fact that you graduated college means alot. That automatically puts you above the high school graduates. It will pay off, I promise.
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Canada7170 Posts
Six courses? Just finish it, grow out your hair in the meantime and be an emo when you're done.
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On May 31 2010 13:38 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 13:26 InTheFade wrote:On May 31 2010 13:17 Bosu wrote: 16/hour isn't very good. It is pretty average in an area with a low cost of living. To add a little perspective, that only an annual salary of $30,720 full-time (I think the poverty level is like $28,000, so, YIKES), 25% of which you'll never see (those damned mandatory deductions), the rest going to bills, debt, and necessities. You would eventually would find a job that pays over $26/hour do get an annual salary of a "managable" $50,000, but I dont see how you'll find that with a high school diploma. lol. 16/hour is not THAT bad. the poverty line in the USA is $10,830 for a single person. Yeah, I just googled that shit... why the fuck did I think it was $28,000?...
Good to know I'm retarded. Guess the college isn't working.
The problem is all in what you want out of life. If you ever want to own a home 28k won't get you much but a life-sucking mortgage. If you want kids, I don't think $28k isn't a lot. If you want a woman to marry you, $28k definitely won't cut it, haha. (the last part was kind of a joke... but only kind of).
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$16 / hour is great if you like going to work everyday. What city do you live in? That's not bad for starting in Pittsburgh, PA. A lot of people go to work everyday for a lot less and hate it. I don't think young people have a proper perspective on just how much you can actually hate your job or the people there. It takes years of drudgery to make you really cynical. So if you like the work take it. You can always change your mind.
Finish your degree. If you go into the military it will move you up faster. Maybe even an option for being an officer. The guy with a degree has more options than the guy who doesn't. The downside of the military is that we are fighting several wars right now. So damn. Think hard about that kinda stuff.
What about taking the job and going to classes at night and on the weekend to finish the degree? Kinda a hybrid solution. Finish in the next 2 - 3 terms. What does your Dad think? He knows you a lot better than we do?
The job market in the U.S. sucks right now. Even with a "marketable" degree finding a well paying job that you really love will be a challenge.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Army. It will be a good experience, they will pay for your tuition if you pledge to stay for a while, and you might enjoy the work so much that you make it a career. Don't join infantry, though.
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