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iNviSible.yunO
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany211 Posts
May 26 2010 08:31 GMT
#61
Nice thinking! I am not a coder but I suspected the newly implemented UDP support to be responsible for some of the lag issues. Wasn't there a discussion somewhere on TL where alot of people demanded that Blizzard used UDP instead of TCP/IP to help with the lags? Now they got it;)
o.O''
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 26 2010 08:44 GMT
#62
wah, R1CH > Blizzard
beep boop
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
May 26 2010 09:16 GMT
#63
i have to do this everytime I open sc2 right?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 26 2010 09:18 GMT
#64
OK I tried this now and for me it says:

Inject Failed

Unable to open requested process to inject code.

Using win7 btw
beep boop
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
May 26 2010 09:23 GMT
#65
If you run SC2 as admin you must also run the program as admin, otherwise some security software on your PC is blocking it.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
May 26 2010 10:13 GMT
#66
This however defeats the purpose of the beta test, doesn't it?
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
May 26 2010 10:16 GMT
#67
Depending on how well Blizzard is able to collect feedback automatically from the beta, you might just have ruined their UDP test. Nice one hehe. (Of course Blizzard should be able to put out something better regardless of a beta test, witnessing all the lag complaints.)
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 26 2010 10:20 GMT
#68
On May 26 2010 18:23 R1CH wrote:
If you run SC2 as admin you must also run the program as admin, otherwise some security software on your PC is blocking it.


awesome thx
beep boop
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
May 26 2010 10:31 GMT
#69
On May 26 2010 19:16 Badjas wrote:
Depending on how well Blizzard is able to collect feedback automatically from the beta, you might just have ruined their UDP test. Nice one hehe. (Of course Blizzard should be able to put out something better regardless of a beta test, witnessing all the lag complaints.)

TL and the people that find this thread are just a drop in the ocean of beta players. Besides, this should be easily testable in-house by simulating network conditions and is probably even possible to notice just from the code with careful review.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
May 26 2010 10:54 GMT
#70
wow, this works amazingly well! <3 R1CH - Blizzard should send you a check in the mail..
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
May 26 2010 11:25 GMT
#71
On May 26 2010 19:31 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 19:16 Badjas wrote:
Depending on how well Blizzard is able to collect feedback automatically from the beta, you might just have ruined their UDP test. Nice one hehe. (Of course Blizzard should be able to put out something better regardless of a beta test, witnessing all the lag complaints.)

TL and the people that find this thread are just a drop in the ocean of beta players. Besides, this should be easily testable in-house by simulating network conditions and is probably even possible to notice just from the code with careful review.

You're right, they should be able to test this regardless. But it is fun to imagine mr. Pardo clenching his scepter in his fist and cursing at you on his throne at Blizzard HQ.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 26 2010 11:44 GMT
#72
On May 26 2010 17:11 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 15:30 Kennigit wrote:
On May 26 2010 15:23 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
guys, don't get TOO excited about this, because in the last day or so I haven't experienced any freezes or drops and I'm not using this program (and I was freezing/dropping every game before).

You must be the only one because everyone i know had it happen all day today until this came out.


That's interesting. The thing is, as R1ch explained, everyone in the game would have to be using this in order to eliminate the UDP clusterfuck entirely due to the fact that communication takes place between the server and the clients and not client-to-client. So it doesn't make sense to me that so many people are saying it is completely eliminating the problem. So that intuition, combined with the fact that I haven't personally experienced freezing lately, led to my suspicions of the effectiveness of R1che's tool.


As R1CH said, the game can still lag and drop people, it just won't drop you. If someone is going to have to drop, might as well be my opponent so I can collect free points, I don't want unnecessary losses. I've been playing customs every day, sometimes it's fine, for instance I played five games early in the morning with Ahzz and there was no lag. However I tried to play late at night for a few games before I went to bed and it was atrocious.

On May 26 2010 19:13 Random() wrote:
This however defeats the purpose of the beta test, doesn't it?


IDK, did Blizzard make it a point to fuck up B.net and let the mess continue for four days? I think the people at Battle.net have enough data at this point, and considering they also should want data about balance after Patch 13, you would think they would herald this fix by R1CH, since no one has really been able to effectively game AFAIK.
Vagtastic
Profile Joined May 2010
1 Post
May 26 2010 11:53 GMT
#73
AHHHH Is there anyway i can do this on a Mac? (mac os x .6 or somethin) i gots so much lagz, jealous of all you guys, awesome tool, well done
legendary
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
May 26 2010 12:55 GMT
#74
hey, so i'm a computer noob, and I ran your program rich, but it just runs the console window with nothing in it. When I close that window, my sc2 closes too. Is that what's supposed to happen? The lag sort of feels better but it felt sort of better after that service update blizzard released this morning. So i'm not sure... help!!

I'm using Window Vista btw (sucks, i know, dunno where to get win7)

ty ty
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 26 2010 12:57 GMT
#75
R1CH, would you mind making Bnet 2.0 for us?

<3
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Encode
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia23 Posts
May 26 2010 13:12 GMT
#76
As someone said, very nice observation by R1ch, and very smart override. But stop calling this a fix. I found in bnet forum that "third party programmer fixed lag problem". It is not fixing anything except denying what is currently on Blizzards table for testing (UDP) and give you more comfortable FREE play.

From the first day of patch 13 UDP was suspected to be guilty for bad game performance. But it is also true that over TCP, problems will be even bigger once the game is released. Every real-time game in the world works over UDP because it is fastest protocol. Price of speed is that UDP is unreliable so client have to deal with lost data packages, wrong packages order, and no timeout handling. This is what developers are probably doing now.

I guess that they can easily kind of exclude TCP from client, which means that this "solution" will stop working. The reason why game still can use it is probably for data collection.

Therefore, I am grateful that I have opportunity to be Beta tester, and I will keep playing over UDP because this is why I have Beta key. Some games crashes, and some not, some I loose because of that, so what. It is all beta winning and beta loosing. I am not sentimental, but I just feel that it is unfair to call Blizzard developers jerks. It is true that there are majority of players who still crashing and lagging. They will do the job. So at least if you read this tread, use this "fix", enjoy in playing, but don't spread the word how someone fixed the problem which multimillion dollar company developer team can't solve. And keep in mind that messing up with computer network settings may leed to troubles if you don't understand what you are doing. As R1ch said, use it on your own risk.

R1ch, it wasn't anything personal, as I said, you are smart computer guy who understands networking, and it is very nice tweak, respect. I would never thought of that client will switch back to TCP.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 13:23:50
May 26 2010 13:22 GMT
#77
It stopped being a true beta when Blizzard started handing out keys for pre-orders. I'm sick of that argument. People paid for beta, plain and simple.

The only difference between the situation now and the final release will be that there's SP. People have already handed over their money to play this game, and beta was the bait.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Encode
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia23 Posts
May 26 2010 13:45 GMT
#78
On May 26 2010 22:22 Jibba wrote:
It stopped being a true beta when Blizzard started handing out keys for pre-orders. I'm sick of that argument. People paid for beta, plain and simple.

The only difference between the situation now and the final release will be that there's SP. People have already handed over their money to play this game, and beta was the bait.


This kinda makes you shareholder. Why are you not interested to help that UDP, or anything else works fine in final product and that we all can enjoy later. I didn't preorder, and I will probably pay higher price then you. It is free choice.

You may be sick of beta argument but beta is playing for free with all failures that beta brings in exchange for testing data. It has nothing to do with preorders for final version. If Starcraft 2 is perfect then it would be released in february as final. But we all know it is still not final.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
May 26 2010 13:49 GMT
#79
Would BattlePing work again after doing this?
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
May 26 2010 14:06 GMT
#80
i can confirm that battleping works again with this
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