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MourningWould
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States110 Posts
May 19 2010 02:33 GMT
#1
Some door-to-door salesman stopped by my door and gave me some pretty convincing arguments to switch from Comcast to Verizon Fios for TV, phone, and internet.

Basically, he said my internet would be faster and more secure, I'd get full 1080i picture quality with more HD content, and some other promotional shit.

So, doing my own research, I found that I have to pay a $108 installation fee if I don't get this through the salesman and he's only gonna be in the neighborhood for a few more days so I'm looking for an honest opinion here.

Does anyone here have Fios and are they satisfied with it? Are the speeds really as high as they claim? Will they jack the price up to ridiculous levels after the 2 year pricelock ends?

Thanks

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SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
May 19 2010 02:37 GMT
#2
A lesson that i learned through the phone/tv/internet company business is that

if your happy with the shit u have right now and satisfied with the price
even though another company 'appear' to have better prices or what not...

dont
Eiserne
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States340 Posts
May 19 2010 02:44 GMT
#3
Just personally, I fucking love fios. Never had a price problem, either. I'm not big on TV, but internet's nice. You can haggle down your installation fee with the company itself, don't believe the salesman.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
May 19 2010 02:45 GMT
#4
i had a lot of problems with comcast. fios is way faster and more reliable.
CandleJack
Profile Joined March 2010
United States104 Posts
May 19 2010 02:46 GMT
#5
In my area comcast was complete trash and I jumped at the opportunity to switch to FIOS when it became available and I couldn't be happier. However, I've heard horror stories from FIOS from friends in other counties/states as well as people raving about comcast in other areas. I think in the end I'd have to agree with the above poster and say that if what you have is fine and the prices seem comparable I wouldn't bother switching.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 02:47:56
May 19 2010 02:46 GMT
#6
FiOS was just installed in my apartment building and I'm trying to get my parents to switch over... any arguments for fios would be appreciated

I live in Manhattan NYC if it matters, so urban area fios would probably be more valid. With our current cable line we have trouble getting anywhere near our advertised bandwidth due to many people on the same cable lines.
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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
May 19 2010 03:01 GMT
#7
I have it. internet is SICK amazing, never worried about speed or consistency again, which was a big change for me coming from crappy (verizon lol) dsl.

tv is alright, but it was really in development when we signed up (lots of blank channels??) and we ended up switching back to comcast for tv based on incentives they gave us.

phone was fine, but again we switched to vonage for our own reasons (calling india is easier).
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
May 19 2010 03:06 GMT
#8
its kinda expensive.....
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
May 19 2010 03:11 GMT
#9
I have FiOS internet and comcast television, and have been very happy with ignoring either side's requests to get the triple play.

I don't know what comcast internet is like now, but 5 years ago it was a horror fest of agreements, baffling rules (port 80 is blocked for everyone?), and dodgy service. FiOS performance has been stellar and while I wouldn't want to call customer service, I've never needed it. They're also, so far, very un-Verizonly open about what you do with their internet.

I frankly don't watch enough television to care about either service, and someone in the house needs to see every MLB game, so comcast it is.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 19 2010 03:11 GMT
#10
Any installation fees that are being waved are standard for all sales. You could get that deal over the phone. Basically if you get good feedback on the price/service itself then go for it. I hear the speeds are sick
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 04:36:54
May 19 2010 03:18 GMT
#11
I love weighing in on these!

Although, to be up front, I'll have to throw in: I'm a Comcast employee, and a huge Comcast fanboy. That's not to say we aren't without faults (as quality of service and reliability really can vary from area to area), but I'll try to be as objective as possible.



On May 19 2010 11:33 MourningWould wrote:
Basically, he said my internet would be faster and more secure,


The first part is not necessarily true, the second part is 100% salesman bullshit (I'm sure our guys use the same line though lol).

Speed: As mentioned above, this can vary from area to area, but generally speaking, in any of our "FIOS competitive areas", we give out a default 16Mbit/s down, which is barely higher than the 15Mbit/s down that FIOS offers in the basic packages. For those wanting more speed, Comcast also offers 22Mbit/s and 50Mbit/s services utilizing DOCSIS 3.0 for almost identical prices to Verizon's 25Mbit/s and 50Mbit/s tier prices.

So TBH, it's pretty much identical. The individual experience that you'll run into depends on the quality of the signal that you're getting from either us or Verizon, which can vary from both due to a number of factors.

More secure: LOL? I'm really not sure what he meant by this, but if he was trying to indicate that Verizon internet is 'more secure' in terms of dangers to your computer (which is completely dependant upon your OS, browser, browsing habits, anti-virus, etc. etc.), then he was feeding you a load of garbage. The ISP has virtually no bearing on it.

There are a few perks with Comcast though; free subscription to Norton's AV, along with some anti-phishing protection with our DNS servers (although I assume every ISP does this). Not sure what Verizon offers, but I'm sure they have something similar.

I'd get full 1080i picture quality with more HD content, and some other promotional shit.


I think he was misleading you if this is exactly how he worded it, as Comcast has FAAAAAAR more HD content than Verizon. Verizon has more channels in HD (something we are matching in many areas with the Xfinity rollout), but we have TONS of HD content via On-Demand, something they are sorely lacking.

Not sure about what promotional stuff they have... last year they were giving out TV's to new customers but I think that almost broke them. T_T

So, doing my own research, I found that I have to pay a $108 installation fee if I don't get this through the salesman and he's only gonna be in the neighborhood for a few more days so I'm looking for an honest opinion here.


"Creating a sense of urgency" is salesman 101. This is true of ANY business, not just telecommunications. I guarantee you there will be plenty of similar 'offers' for months and months to come.

Although TBH that install price sounds pretty damn high... our installs are much cheaper than that. I would honestly try haggling with the guy, there might be some give room.

Does anyone here have Fios and are they satisfied with it? Are the speeds really as high as they claim? Will they jack the price up to ridiculous levels after the 2 year pricelock ends?

Thanks


From what I understand, the rates do jump up a pretty good bit after the 2 years is up, definitely something to look out for. Also, another big thing to watch out for with Verizon is the Early Termination Fees, or ETF. You should be able to get more info online about exactly how much it is, but if say, after a couple months you decide you don't like Verizon and want to break the contract, it's most likely going to cost you in the neighborhood of $150-$300. Another thing I'm proud of is that Comcast does not do ETF's or contracts, even on our promotions (with one minor exception from a specific offer last year). Verizon, everything is under contract unless you don't get a promo.

Conclusion: I'm going to side with the above posters who've said, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If your Comcast is fine, it honestly isn't worth the hassle of something going wrong, or Verizon burning your house down (google it, seriously). I could understand if your service with us was horrible, unreliable, or you had bad run-ins with technicians or phone reps, but honestly... if it works, I would leave it as is.

All I can think of for now... again obviously I'm biased, but if you want to know anything else (at least from the Comcast side of things), feel free to ask!
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 03:21:50
May 19 2010 03:21 GMT
#12
verizon fios is AMAZING. i never had any problems at all for the 6 months or so that i had it, fastest internet ive ever had. if price isnt a problem id go with the fios

when ive had comcast, it always goes down, terrible customer service etc. fios is better in every way.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 19 2010 03:25 GMT
#13
Oh man, ETT is such a handome salesman.

For pure internet thought, Fios is unbeaten in the US. It offers the highest upload speeds, extreme stability and lowest pings I've ever seen in my life.

Regarding TV and HD content, no idea, I don't watch tv at all.
MourningWould
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States110 Posts
May 19 2010 03:39 GMT
#14
On May 19 2010 12:18 EvilTeletubby wrote:
I love weighing in on these!

Although, to be up front, I'll have to throw in: I'm a Comcast employee, and a huge Comcast fanboy. That's not to say we aren't without faults (as quality of service and reliability really can vary from area to area), but I'll try to be as objective as possible.



Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 11:33 MourningWould wrote:
Basically, he said my internet would be faster and more secure,


The first part is not necessarily true, the second part is 100% salesman bullshit (I'm sure our guys use the same line though lol).

Speed: As mentioned above, this can vary from area to area, but generally speaking, in any of our "FIOS competitive areas", we give out a default 16MB down, which is barely higher than the 15MB down that FIOS offers in the basic packages. For those wanting more speed, Comcast also offers 22MB and 50MB services utilizing DOCSIS 3.0 for almost identical prices to Verizon's 25MB and 50MB tier prices.

So TBH, it's pretty much identical. The individual experience that you'll run into depends on the quality of the signal that you're getting from either us or Verizon, which can vary from both due to a number of factors.

More secure: LOL? I'm really not sure what he meant by this, but if he was trying to indicate that Verizon internet is 'more secure' in terms of dangers to your computer (which is completely dependant upon your OS, browser, browsing habits, anti-virus, etc. etc.), then he was feeding you a load of garbage. The ISP has virtually no bearing on it.

There are a few perks with Comcast though; free subscription to Norton's AV, along with some anti-phishing protection with our DNS servers (although I assume every ISP does this). Not sure what Verizon offers, but I'm sure they have something similar.

Show nested quote +
I'd get full 1080i picture quality with more HD content, and some other promotional shit.


I think he was misleading you if this is exactly how he worded it, as Comcast has FAAAAAAR more HD content than Verizon. Verizon has more channels in HD (something we are matching in many areas with the Xfinity rollout), but we have TONS of HD content via On-Demand, something they are sorely lacking.

Not sure about what promotional stuff they have... last year they were giving out TV's to new customers but I think that almost broke them. T_T

Show nested quote +
So, doing my own research, I found that I have to pay a $108 installation fee if I don't get this through the salesman and he's only gonna be in the neighborhood for a few more days so I'm looking for an honest opinion here.


"Creating a sense of urgency" is salesman 101. This is true of ANY business, not just telecommunications. I guarantee you there will be plenty of similar 'offers' for months and months to come.

Although TBH that install price sounds pretty damn high... our installs are much cheaper than that. I would honestly try haggling with the guy, there might be some give room.

Show nested quote +
Does anyone here have Fios and are they satisfied with it? Are the speeds really as high as they claim? Will they jack the price up to ridiculous levels after the 2 year pricelock ends?

Thanks


From what I understand, the rates do jump up a pretty good bit after the 2 years is up, definitely something to look out for. Also, another big thing to watch out for with Verizon is the Early Termination Fees, or ETF. You should be able to get more info online about exactly how much it is, but if say, after a couple months you decide you don't like Verizon and want to break the contract, it's most likely going to cost you in the neighborhood of $150-$300. Another thing I'm proud of is that Comcast does not do ETF's or contracts, even on our promotions (with one minor exception from a specific offer last year). Verizon, everything is under contract unless you don't get a promo.

Conclusion: I'm going to side with the above posters who've said, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If your Comcast is fine, it honestly isn't worth the hassle of something going wrong, or Verizon burning your house down (google it, seriously). I could understand if your service with us was horrible, unreliable, or you had bad run-ins with technicians or phone reps, but honestly... if it works, I would leave it as is.

All I can think of for now... again obviously I'm biased, but if you want to know anything else (at least from the Comcast side of things), feel free to ask!



Yeah, that definitely puts things into perspective for me. Thanks man. I think the main thing that was convincing me to go through with it was because it had me at a lower monthly price than what I get with Comcast so I actually felt like I was getting a superior service for a cheaper price.
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
May 19 2010 03:45 GMT
#15
The only reason I could think of to switch is if you're a heavy enough user that you break Comcast's soft cap regularly, or if it's significantly cheaper. FiOS has no sort of cap currently.

tl;dr if it aint broke don't try and fix it.

ps: It's Mbit/s, not MB/s, ETT!
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
May 19 2010 04:24 GMT
#16
Fios is amazing. No reason not to switch over.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 04:42:47
May 19 2010 04:41 GMT
#17
On May 19 2010 12:39 MourningWould wrote:
Yeah, that definitely puts things into perspective for me. Thanks man. I think the main thing that was convincing me to go through with it was because it had me at a lower monthly price than what I get with Comcast so I actually felt like I was getting a superior service for a cheaper price.


Well, that's probably true (regarding price) if you're on a promo with them but not with us. Might want to call up see what offers/promos we might have running in your area.

On May 19 2010 12:45 aers wrote:
ps: It's Mbit/s, not MB/s, ETT!


Always mix up my Mb and MB. T_T But TY! ^_^
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 19 2010 04:47 GMT
#18
Recently today I just got FIOS 15/5, TV and phone for 69.99 (but I already had FIOS with the salesman for 2 years)

They wanted to install this shitty box in the middle of a wall and told me they had to put it there. After bitching about it they finally agreed to put it somewhere hidden.

Don't trust them but its good =D
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QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 04:56:22
May 19 2010 04:51 GMT
#19
ETT brings up some good points, but as he himself admits he's a little biased and leaves out a few of the negatives of Comast:

1) Monthly download limits: Comcast has a monthly download limit of 250GB. This is a pretty high limit if you're just a casual internet user, but again if you actually want to actually use your 50mbps connection you can cap out your monthly quota in ~12 hours (assuming you can find enough stuff to download to keep it going). Since you already have Comcast and evidently haven't gotten a call from Comcast about it, it's probably not an issue for you. Comcast themselves claim that it only impacts the top 1% of bandwidth users.

2) Inferior upload speed. Until very recently, Comcast had absolutely terrible upload speeds that were nowhere near FiOS' offerings. Looking on their site now it appears they offer 2/5/10mbps, which is solid enough for most people, but still isn't as good as Verizon's 5 or 25mbps plans. Again, this is only an issue if you're doing MAJOR file transferring (uploading huge pictures / home movies or whatever), or running a small server (it doesn't impact gaming / web browsing at all).


It's possible that by "security" the salesman means "stability," as in less downtime / fewer outages. In my personal experience Comcast had more outages due to stability issues, and Verizon has been rock solid. Though of course Comcast was very reliable as well and that's only anecdotal evidence from my personal experience, so ymmv.

I had Comcast for ~5 or 6 years because it was the only internet service offered in my area. I switched to FiOS on the very first day that it was available for my home, and haven't looked back since--but again, I'm probably in the top 0.001% of home bandwidth users so the above 2 points are really important to me, but probably don't matter at all to you.



tl;dr : FiOS is faster (and more importantly you can actually use that internet speed because no quotas), but they're both so incredibly fast that unless you're *extremely* hardcore you won't notice any difference at all, so don't bother switching for that reason.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 19 2010 05:37 GMT
#20
i never personally used any but everyone i know who used comcast pretty much had nothing but negative to say about it. So i figured this was a nobrainer.
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