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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 19 2010 05:46 GMT
#21
In terms of "security", FIOS is likely less vulnerable to sniffing / poisoning on the local subnet. Cable networks are inherently terrible at this, I've seen some networks where I could very easily hijack the entire subnet. But I doubt this is what the salesman had in mind .
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 19 2010 05:53 GMT
#22
Im using Optimum Online right now and I will give an arm for Fios, which isnt available here yet.
During peak hours and weekends my speeds are throttled because of the amount of users in this area, either I have to get a node split or upgrade to Boost and get a DOCSIS 3.0 modem.

Lately Ive been notcing that my speeds during the non-peak hours are only 6d/2u as opposed to the optimal speed of 15d/2u. Im fine if its a few M/bits off but more than half? What the fuck guys?

The government decided to give the ISPs sort of a mini-monopoly in NYC(Each area/borough is controlled by a corporation). So Time Warner controls Mahanttan, while OOL gets Brooklyn, etc. I dont think Comcast has business in the city, maybe in the suburbs.

Sorry to hijack your blog. D:
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
May 19 2010 06:21 GMT
#23
On May 19 2010 14:46 R1CH wrote:
In terms of "security", FIOS is likely less vulnerable to sniffing / poisoning on the local subnet. Cable networks are inherently terrible at this, I've seen some networks where I could very easily hijack the entire subnet. But I doubt this is what the salesman had in mind .


r1ch do you ever go places (i.e. anywhere with a computer or electronics) feeling really awesome because you know so much?

On topic: I've got comcast and i like it. decent speeds, never really uploaded much so can't speak to that. My dad just got fios at his apartment in virginia for work and says he really likes that too.

tl;dr as everyone else said, if its the same price don't change.
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condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 06:52:27
May 19 2010 06:52 GMT
#24
Definitely sign with the salesman if you want to get FIOS, he did the work, why would you not allow him to get paid? He's not the one doing the installation either way.

FIOS price skyrockets after the deal runs out, it will be way above what you are paying for Comcast. You might be able to negotiate again in 2 years (if that's how long you're signing for) because they are really hurting for money and would absolutely hate to lose a customer. Just tell them you would leave if you don't get the same deal again. The rates you get when you sign up are really good, just make sure you understand what you are signing for (usually there will be things that will see price increase or will have to be dropped in about 3-6 months). Installation itself may take up to 8-10 hours, definitely not as simple as your regular cable.

I believe Comcast still has an early termination fee on their triple plays, should be around 150-175$
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Number41
Profile Joined August 2008
United States130 Posts
May 19 2010 08:25 GMT
#25
I had Comcast and switched to FIOS a few years ago (near Boston). FIOS was a about 2x faster Upload / 3x Download for about $40/month cheaper (both services included similar cable packages). I had a 1 year contract. After a year I was able to drop the phone service and saved an additional $20/month.

I think the biggest improvement was reliability. FIOS never went down whereas Comcast would go down a few hours each week.

Unfortunately I moved to Florida and I am stuck with Comcast again. The service is about $80/month more than what I was getting with FIOS in Boston and the quality is dreadful compared to FIOS. Comcast said the wiring in my house is old and offered to fix it for $200.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
May 20 2010 07:10 GMT
#26
On May 19 2010 15:52 condoriano wrote:
I believe Comcast still has an early termination fee on their triple plays, should be around 150-175$


A while back (year or so at this point), we did offer 2 year triple plays that required a contract (and of course, an ETF). Those were pretty unpopular, so we did away with them, and our triple plays since have not included them.



On May 19 2010 17:25 Number41 wrote:
I had Comcast and switched to FIOS a few years ago (near Boston). FIOS was a about 2x faster Upload / 3x Download for about $40/month cheaper (both services included similar cable packages). I had a 1 year contract. After a year I was able to drop the phone service and saved an additional $20/month.

I think the biggest improvement was reliability. FIOS never went down whereas Comcast would go down a few hours each week.


I can guarantee 100% that if your services went out 'a few hours each week'; there was either a problem at the home with the wiring/connectors/splitters, or something from the outside feeding in from your tap, the node, or maybe a bad underground.

Did you ever have us come out and take a look?

Unfortunately I moved to Florida and I am stuck with Comcast again. The service is about $80/month more than what I was getting with FIOS in Boston and the quality is dreadful compared to FIOS. Comcast said the wiring in my house is old and offered to fix it for $200.


Another area for clarification here:

For starters, the wiring/splitters in the home is owned by you. Regardless of who installed it. Hell, many houses nowadays come pre-wired. Often times, if someone switches from one provider to another, the same lines get used. DirecTV, Dish, Comcast, Verizon... everyone uses Coax lines in your home. If the issue in your case has been isolated down to bad/old wiring in your home, then regardless of who you have service with, your going to have some issues.

Also- I'm not sure how they do it in Florida, but up here, our guys don't actually do massive re-wiring ourselves, that is typically referred to a contractor (you're free to open up the phone book and pick whoever you want of course). Contractors obviously want by-the-hour pricing, as rewiring an entire home, especially with cutting-and-patching and wallfishes, is pretty time and labor intensive. The "$200" is probably a rough estimate, which again will be about the same price as any contractor rewiring an entire house. Again, I don't think this is a Comcast-specific thing you can justifiably pin on us as reason for your dislike of Comcast. I'm sure I won't be able to change how you feel, but if I can at least explain what you're describing, maybe you'll be a little more open/fair.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
May 20 2010 15:52 GMT
#27
I'm a Fios customer atm for tv/internet/phone and it's pretty great, especially compared to the cablevision/optimum online service that I had previously. I've never had comcast, and I don't think I personally know anyone who has either, so I can't say a bad word about them, but fios has been far more reliable that my last cable provider.

The only complaint I could even muster is that their on-demand system can be a little buggy at times, giving back random errors or displaying "no assets" under some shows that were there just minutes before. That's a really infrequent occurrence though, and not enough to really be an issue in a decision like this.
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 20 2010 17:30 GMT
#28
I live in GA and although I've moved around like 10 or so times in the last decade [ all in ga ], comcast has for the most part been amazing. I always get near advertised speeds or [ currently ] even higher speeds. If anything is wrong you just gotta know to let the installer know or give them a call asap after your line is installed.

On my current plan I was able to get some ridiculous discount and since comcast doesn't do contracts I get to keep it as long as I have the service. $37 a month for
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and quality of line:
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I'm not posting this to say stick with comcast, cuz I've heard even more amazing things about Fios from playing maaaaaany games with friends over vent, I'm merely posting to say stick with what is good in your area. For me, comcast is really great and fios hasn't been available so I stuck with it. Lots of my friends in vent say their comcast is terribad but they can't do anything about it cuz they have the monopoly in their area.
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