• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:30
CEST 12:30
KST 19:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 236Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BSL Season 23 screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6971 users

Verizon Fios - Page 2

Blogs > MourningWould
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
May 19 2010 05:46 GMT
#21
In terms of "security", FIOS is likely less vulnerable to sniffing / poisoning on the local subnet. Cable networks are inherently terrible at this, I've seen some networks where I could very easily hijack the entire subnet. But I doubt this is what the salesman had in mind .
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
TL+ Member
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 19 2010 05:53 GMT
#22
Im using Optimum Online right now and I will give an arm for Fios, which isnt available here yet.
During peak hours and weekends my speeds are throttled because of the amount of users in this area, either I have to get a node split or upgrade to Boost and get a DOCSIS 3.0 modem.

Lately Ive been notcing that my speeds during the non-peak hours are only 6d/2u as opposed to the optimal speed of 15d/2u. Im fine if its a few M/bits off but more than half? What the fuck guys?

The government decided to give the ISPs sort of a mini-monopoly in NYC(Each area/borough is controlled by a corporation). So Time Warner controls Mahanttan, while OOL gets Brooklyn, etc. I dont think Comcast has business in the city, maybe in the suburbs.

Sorry to hijack your blog. D:
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
May 19 2010 06:21 GMT
#23
On May 19 2010 14:46 R1CH wrote:
In terms of "security", FIOS is likely less vulnerable to sniffing / poisoning on the local subnet. Cable networks are inherently terrible at this, I've seen some networks where I could very easily hijack the entire subnet. But I doubt this is what the salesman had in mind .


r1ch do you ever go places (i.e. anywhere with a computer or electronics) feeling really awesome because you know so much?

On topic: I've got comcast and i like it. decent speeds, never really uploaded much so can't speak to that. My dad just got fios at his apartment in virginia for work and says he really likes that too.

tl;dr as everyone else said, if its the same price don't change.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 06:52:27
May 19 2010 06:52 GMT
#24
Definitely sign with the salesman if you want to get FIOS, he did the work, why would you not allow him to get paid? He's not the one doing the installation either way.

FIOS price skyrockets after the deal runs out, it will be way above what you are paying for Comcast. You might be able to negotiate again in 2 years (if that's how long you're signing for) because they are really hurting for money and would absolutely hate to lose a customer. Just tell them you would leave if you don't get the same deal again. The rates you get when you sign up are really good, just make sure you understand what you are signing for (usually there will be things that will see price increase or will have to be dropped in about 3-6 months). Installation itself may take up to 8-10 hours, definitely not as simple as your regular cable.

I believe Comcast still has an early termination fee on their triple plays, should be around 150-175$
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
Number41
Profile Joined August 2008
United States130 Posts
May 19 2010 08:25 GMT
#25
I had Comcast and switched to FIOS a few years ago (near Boston). FIOS was a about 2x faster Upload / 3x Download for about $40/month cheaper (both services included similar cable packages). I had a 1 year contract. After a year I was able to drop the phone service and saved an additional $20/month.

I think the biggest improvement was reliability. FIOS never went down whereas Comcast would go down a few hours each week.

Unfortunately I moved to Florida and I am stuck with Comcast again. The service is about $80/month more than what I was getting with FIOS in Boston and the quality is dreadful compared to FIOS. Comcast said the wiring in my house is old and offered to fix it for $200.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
May 20 2010 07:10 GMT
#26
On May 19 2010 15:52 condoriano wrote:
I believe Comcast still has an early termination fee on their triple plays, should be around 150-175$


A while back (year or so at this point), we did offer 2 year triple plays that required a contract (and of course, an ETF). Those were pretty unpopular, so we did away with them, and our triple plays since have not included them.



On May 19 2010 17:25 Number41 wrote:
I had Comcast and switched to FIOS a few years ago (near Boston). FIOS was a about 2x faster Upload / 3x Download for about $40/month cheaper (both services included similar cable packages). I had a 1 year contract. After a year I was able to drop the phone service and saved an additional $20/month.

I think the biggest improvement was reliability. FIOS never went down whereas Comcast would go down a few hours each week.


I can guarantee 100% that if your services went out 'a few hours each week'; there was either a problem at the home with the wiring/connectors/splitters, or something from the outside feeding in from your tap, the node, or maybe a bad underground.

Did you ever have us come out and take a look?

Unfortunately I moved to Florida and I am stuck with Comcast again. The service is about $80/month more than what I was getting with FIOS in Boston and the quality is dreadful compared to FIOS. Comcast said the wiring in my house is old and offered to fix it for $200.


Another area for clarification here:

For starters, the wiring/splitters in the home is owned by you. Regardless of who installed it. Hell, many houses nowadays come pre-wired. Often times, if someone switches from one provider to another, the same lines get used. DirecTV, Dish, Comcast, Verizon... everyone uses Coax lines in your home. If the issue in your case has been isolated down to bad/old wiring in your home, then regardless of who you have service with, your going to have some issues.

Also- I'm not sure how they do it in Florida, but up here, our guys don't actually do massive re-wiring ourselves, that is typically referred to a contractor (you're free to open up the phone book and pick whoever you want of course). Contractors obviously want by-the-hour pricing, as rewiring an entire home, especially with cutting-and-patching and wallfishes, is pretty time and labor intensive. The "$200" is probably a rough estimate, which again will be about the same price as any contractor rewiring an entire house. Again, I don't think this is a Comcast-specific thing you can justifiably pin on us as reason for your dislike of Comcast. I'm sure I won't be able to change how you feel, but if I can at least explain what you're describing, maybe you'll be a little more open/fair.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
May 20 2010 15:52 GMT
#27
I'm a Fios customer atm for tv/internet/phone and it's pretty great, especially compared to the cablevision/optimum online service that I had previously. I've never had comcast, and I don't think I personally know anyone who has either, so I can't say a bad word about them, but fios has been far more reliable that my last cable provider.

The only complaint I could even muster is that their on-demand system can be a little buggy at times, giving back random errors or displaying "no assets" under some shows that were there just minutes before. That's a really infrequent occurrence though, and not enough to really be an issue in a decision like this.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 20 2010 17:30 GMT
#28
I live in GA and although I've moved around like 10 or so times in the last decade [ all in ga ], comcast has for the most part been amazing. I always get near advertised speeds or [ currently ] even higher speeds. If anything is wrong you just gotta know to let the installer know or give them a call asap after your line is installed.

On my current plan I was able to get some ridiculous discount and since comcast doesn't do contracts I get to keep it as long as I have the service. $37 a month for
[image loading]

and quality of line:
[image loading]
Taken at 1:30 pm

I'm not posting this to say stick with comcast, cuz I've heard even more amazing things about Fios from playing maaaaaany games with friends over vent, I'm merely posting to say stick with what is good in your area. For me, comcast is really great and fios hasn't been available so I stuck with it. Lots of my friends in vent say their comcast is terribad but they can't do anything about it cuz they have the monopoly in their area.
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko350
ProTech139
Has 75
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3757
Britney 2622
firebathero 1357
Bisu 540
BeSt 438
Stork 316
Light 122
Mini 104
sorry 96
PianO 73
[ Show more ]
Last 57
Shinee 47
Bale 36
hero 35
Sharp 29
Rush 28
Shine 27
Hm[arnc] 26
ggaemo 24
ToSsGirL 24
HiyA 24
Aegong 20
zelot 19
Terrorterran 17
Hyun 15
JYJ 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Noble 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4545
League of Legends
JimRising 346
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_0
Other Games
olofmeister1203
Maynarde269
crisheroes220
Livibee138
Pyrionflax119
Mew2King95
DeMusliM89
QueenE0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10147
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 454
Other Games
gamesdonequick441
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH198
• StrangeGG 24
• mYiSmile122
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV52
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
30m
The PondCast
23h 30m
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.