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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
May 13 2010 20:09 GMT
#21
Age of Empires is a very micro-oriented game. And, since the map always changes, you will need to scout.

I suggest that you use 1 villager to scout around with. Use the rest according to your plan (probably delay going to the tool age until at least 10 villagers though), but you need to know where the bushes are, where some animals are, where a gold mine and forest is, nearby choke points and likely directions he will attack from, etc. Building houses in these locations is not a bad idea, because they are very useful for scouting his movement when he does decide to be offensive.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
May 13 2010 20:14 GMT
#22
WRECK HIM, kid deserves it yo.

Post results after the impending rage from him!
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
May 13 2010 20:14 GMT
#23
On May 14 2010 05:00 Hans-Titan wrote:
I remember there's a cheat code that gives you a car. Used to abuse that shit in single-player so much.

FLYING DUTCHMAN is also a code. Believe it makes your ships fly. Also one that starts with E=MC2 that gives you some shit.

Such a great game... The memories..


Bigdaddy

e=mc2 trooper

and many more.....
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 13 2010 20:16 GMT
#24
Damn, this blog brings back memories, I'll try to find and reinstall Aoe1 and maybe also 2 again in the summer holiday. I remember being amazed by how cool hunting looked in aoe1 when i was like 10 :D

thanks, 5/5 blog
BW fighting!
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
May 13 2010 20:22 GMT
#25
I had 2400 elo on AoE1 in gaming zone, like 10 years ago. 10 years ago i didnt play starcraft at all, I use to play Age.




You are in a good way. But, some advises:

You can hunt, if you hunt with many workers at the same time you can one hit gacels, and quick finish the food before decomposion. Use your starcraft multitask to gain advantage on AoE1, so you can hunt while you are teching. Its better to have near 10 workers instead of 6 before tool age, so you can get some wood asap.

If you have coast, fish with workers, take a loot of wood, make fishing ships, and skip farms until the next tier

Later, dont make 6 raxes, make less and more cavalries or archeries. I remember i used to play one rax, 3 archeries, 2 cavalries until i get charriots or elefants.

The most important resource is THE STONE. Tower rush is the equivalent to a late cannon rush, and is a fucken pain in the ass. Tower blocks tower, so get some stone for defending to a tower rush. If you defend well, you will be much ahead.

Remember that your workers can build together. They build much faster, you will want to build towers with at least 6 of them. The population limit is pretty high, so NEVER STOP MAKING WORKERS

In the last tier, workers have an upgrade that gives them dmg against buildings and elephants. You need it if he got towers or elephants.

Chose your race by their advantage. once you know what you want to do look in the aoe cd or installed files for some word documents that details advantages and disadvantages of each race. I use to play yamato, dont remember if their units build faster, or were cheaper... you search for it.


that what i can recall by now.
Jävla skit
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
May 13 2010 20:27 GMT
#26
Ahh, I used to play that game a lot. Roman is a nice civ with cheaper buildings, but unless you are using the latest patch (which came out after the game died) Shang just rolled everyone with their 30% cheaper workers (lol i know). Even after the 1.0c patch they are still very strong. Phoenician is another very strong race as well with their woodchopping bonus.

Here are some tips for starters: start farms as late as you can. They are the most inefficient food source.

1. Starting is very important, and not all food sources have same gathering rates (!). Its something like this. I'm going to ignore dock first opening because rush is easier to learn and I assume you are playing mostly land map.

Shorefish (fastes by like 30%t) > hunting = berries > farms

2. In beginning most important is not to get supply blocked and to scout for food. Shorefish are great, especially if they are near a forest - you can put down a storage pit and take care of both your initial food and wood, its like an insanely good economic opening. Not to mention shorefish gather fastest.

3. Storage pit by dual elephant + forest is also possible. Make sure you kite with your villager and dont' have him die to the dumbos.

4. After that just set up steady food and wood sources and tech to tool age around 16-18 villagers for a tool rush. I think 20-24 villagers is standard for a bronze rush.

Which brings me to the metagame a little.

Tool rush > Bronze rush> Spreading out and defending in tool to slower bronze. Game pretty much should end in bronze age at most. Remember scouting is really different in this game, the map is randomly generated and players can have really weird spawn sites (not always across map), in general your units are really slow, have low sight range, and shit can be really hard to find. So against a rush if you spread out all your economic operations all over the place it can take him forever to find you and he can't do enough dmg.

Units:

Fast and ranged units rule in this game in general. Infantry pretty much blows this game with exception of axeman rush.


Stone Age: pretty much not else goes on unless you worker rush (not really viable unless you're Palmyran)

Tool Age: Archers were the original super rush unit, but in expansion they were super hardcountered by slingers. Club / Axeman rushing is good with slinger support in case of archers. REMEMBER TO GET THE ARMOR UPGRADE. the +2 armor effectively triples your HP against villagers and clubmen. Armor ups > Axeman ups > Weapon ups in that order. Scout rushing is possible due to their speed and LOS but they are expensive, weak in straight up fighting and hard to pull off.

Bronze Age: There is a small timing window for cavalry (don't get them if opponent is about to bronze and has access to camels), later on chariot archers are better once you get a few of them. As always, focus is on harass and killing workers. Infantry is not so useful. In late Bronze mass composite archers backed with catapults are the ownage. A lot of civs don't have these required units or upgrades associated with them, so make sure you pick a civ that has these. Phoenician I think has access to chariot archers and cavs easy, and the haxor civ Shang has access too all tech up to Bronze. Rome kinda suffers here because their bonus is infantry (sucks) and they have no chariot or composite archers.

Iron Age: Game should be over now, but cavalry archers and heavy catapults are the ones to get here.

Some of the stuff I remember might be inaccurate or even wrong, but I think this is a pretty good start...


But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
May 13 2010 20:28 GMT
#27
wow aoe1.blast from the past.. I think I tried a cpl incomplete games here and there only. Pretty funny seeing SC habits/lessons and how they apply (or dont) to other games !
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 13 2010 20:30 GMT
#28
I think cheats can be used online unless someone turns it off...
Jaedong :3
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
May 13 2010 20:32 GMT
#29
OH YEA: Proxies are like the standard and completely required for rushing, and there's no real way to punish one. Start scouting for your opponent the moment you start researching tool age upgrade and if you are rushing, after you find him start a rax right before you hit tool age upgrade. Time it so that it is complete and immediately start building 2nd rax / archery range / stable as soon as you hit tool age. Send 2 villagers to scout in case of alligators / lions and they are really needed to get the buildings up in time.

Coltrane: Wasn't 10 villagers really really low before tool? I thought 14 was the absolute min, and 16 or so was standard if tool rushing.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 20:45:22
May 13 2010 20:44 GMT
#30
On May 14 2010 05:00 Hans-Titan wrote:
I remember there's a cheat code that gives you a car. Used to abuse that shit in single-player so much.

BIG MOMMA

PHOTON MAN

fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
May 13 2010 21:11 GMT
#31
Good luck in beating him

By the way, AoE 1 and 2 looks interesting (reminds me of YS Strategy and Empire Earth). Is there anyway to download the full version online for free?
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 13 2010 21:22 GMT
#32

STRACRAFT PLAYERRS PRIDE GOGO ESX RAPPTOR!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
May 13 2010 21:27 GMT
#33
I wasn't a huge fan of AoE1 but AoE2 is the shit. Maybe even more so than SC? :X
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
May 13 2010 21:33 GMT
#34
better notlose man!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 13 2010 21:42 GMT
#35
I read 'can I lick your ass'.

what's wrong with me..
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 13 2010 21:52 GMT
#36
Gotta stop watching all that fetish porn.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
May 13 2010 21:57 GMT
#37
That game was my life 10 years ago. So many good memories.
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:13:10
May 13 2010 22:11 GMT
#38
AoE1 was the 1st rts i ever played...FUN TIMES LOVE THAT GAME...hell im reinstalling it right now bc of this thread and playing it with my new sc:bw sense of rts (gonna rape some cousins of mine who still play on the way mwahahaha (though they prefer AoE2))

edit: does anyone know all the cheat codes and what they do? im rather interested bc i cant remember any (so much fun for single player lol)
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 13 2010 22:16 GMT
#39
On May 14 2010 07:11 unit wrote:
AoE1 was the 1st rts i ever played...FUN TIMES LOVE THAT GAME...hell im reinstalling it right now bc of this thread and playing it with my new sc:bw sense of rts (gonna rape some cousins of mine who still play on the way mwahahaha (though they prefer AoE2))

edit: does anyone know all the cheat codes and what they do? im rather interested bc i cant remember any (so much fun for single player lol)

Im about to do the same thing lol
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 13 2010 22:16 GMT
#40
hahaha i know nothing about aoe1 but i hope you wipe the floor with his cocky ass

goodluck!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
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