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What's up TeamLiquid guess what?
Well, what a damned-funny yet cocky-ass bastard of a friend – or should I rather say ‘colleague’ – do I currently have to deal with mates I tell you. However, he doesn't have the skills to back up his trash-talk; not even close.
![[image loading]](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v217/210/65/212100068/n212100068_37151_6915.jpg) Him: “I am unbeatable in games!”
He challenged me to a StarCraft duel when he found out I played the game. However, he didn't know I formed part of a community of highly competitive players, in fact, he didn't even know there was one to begin with; he just sat there thinking the game had long died a decade ago and that for some reason he had all of the knowledge and skill necessary to put me to public shame in a one-versus-one.
Hell fucking no.
So I just trolled along with him pretending to be a casual player who's tried the game 2 or 3 times at most, just like him, while the funny thought of me having once reached low C on ICCup danced at the back of my head undisturbed. *Girly laugh*
Well the game turned out to be a rape followed by a rage and a rematch but this time he chose for it to take place in the no-less-than-famous AoE1 stating that his “Axemen rush would own my ass sorry.” I lol’ed; he doesn’t even know how to play it either.
![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/24dlvmf.jpg) ”Axemen rush rofl lololol”
On the other hand: like what the hell! I don’t even know how to click that shit AoE1? Ffs!
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So I hijacked my garage, found the CD and installed it. Now I’m just sitting here staring at three jackasses standing around a useless building with a bit of wood and food in the hole.
Note: We’ll be playing our match with standard settings; no BGH shit. Also I play Romans for demotivational purposes, and we’re playing Rise of Rome (Expansion).
I started a practice game against a computer.
The drive to split my workers as fast as possible and get this thing going flawlessly made me cringe and pain when I had no freaking idea on what to do with those villagers. I immediately realized that it is a really retarded idea to send out a villager to scout for my opponent for the fact that they have a 0.001 matrix sight, move slower than a reaver and have worse path-finding than a dragoon. So I kept the little pricks in base foraging nearby bushes.
Lesson 1: Do not scout with villagers.
![[image loading]](http://img.youtube.com/vi/ZMkO4hSHz9c/0.jpg) The hell you guys went??
Immediately after making 1 or 2 more villagers from the town center I found myself supply capped.
Lesson 2: Make your first house asap.
![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/rvx6di.jpg) I’ve annoyed Aldaris
I kept on making villagers, foraging those bushes, and cutting a bit of wood here and there, eventually building a storage pit nearby a dense wood supply and a granary nearby those darned bushes, keeping house building on time to avoid those pesky supply caps too.
After making a handful of villagers I start saving up to go up the tech tree into the tool age as fast as possible (can’t do jack shit in stone age). Then my system crashed; my foraging villagers were now standing there staring at each other. What the hell am I supposed to do now to get food?
Lesson 3: Foraging bushes don’t have 1500 food each.
I found that hunting was a waste of time because gazelles move faster than a speed vulture and travel half the map away when you get near them to a radius of 15 miles. Not to mention once you kill them they start decomposing faster than flash powder in the center of the sun.
Lesson 4: Don’t hunt.
![[image loading]](http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/games/pc/age_of_empires/age_of_empires_005.jpg) Elephant: “fffuuu”
So I just sat there chilling with the former foragers thinking, trying to find a new way to get food. Well, moments after that I saw that What? My BUILDINGS evolved! I immediately built a market and found I could make farms and that they only cost wood.
So I developed a new strategy and I want you guys to criticize and shred it apart.
Upon game start: BUILD ORDER
- Queue 2 villagers, take one to build a house and the other two to look for the critical bushes.
- Upon finding the bushes build a granary next to them and keep making villagers until you have a total of 6.
- Start saving up to 500 food and start evolving to the tool age.
- Take a handful of the foraging villagers and make them lumberjack around, resuming villager (and house) production, eventually getting a storage pit in between a dense forest.
- Once you reach the tool age immediately make a market, start building lots of farms and lumberjacking reaps of wood with insane amounts of villagers.
- Make a stable and 6 barracks scout with a scout to find your opponent while teching up to and amassing axemen.
- Upgrade attack and footmen armor.
- Beat the shit out of him.
My plan goes up this far and I have a feeling that is a total piece of trash but that can get the job done; If he manages to survive that or my attacks aren’t working as I expected them to, I will throw down 4 archery ranges or so and start making bowmen and a handful of axemen while making more farms and aiming to tech up to the bronze age.
Alright guys I will keep on fooling around trying to find out better ways to execute this thing. Give me pointers oh experienced AoE1 players! Help me show this guy people can learn and to flatten down his fucking gaming ego ffs.
gl hf
 
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Really looking forward to this blog but I should as hell cant help you beyond a gentle
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OMG AOE 1 !! I USED TO PLAY THE SHIZNAT OUT OF THAT GAME! FIRST RTS I EVER PLAYED
Ah.. those were the days 
Too bad i was too young to ever play it competetively against other players besides my brother. Sorry, cant help you out 
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Ah, I remember this game! I loved AOE2 when I was young, but I played it before I got into competitive gaming with Brood War.
If AOE 1 is anything like AOE2, then it's important to rush him once you get into the second age. In AOE2 this is called the Flush, short for Feudal Rush. It appears that you already have developed a similar strategy.
I would suggest going to http://aoe.heavengames.com/ and check out some of the strategies there. However, you should let your friend know the same site, so that not only would it be a more interesting match, but whoever wins will surely be more skilled (which you probably are, seeing as how competitive Brood War requires a considerably higher APM than a noncompetitive average RTS gamer)
More specifically, here's a strategy guide for the Romans on the Age of Empires Heaven website: http://aoe.heavengames.com/academy/strategy/articles/CivSpecific/breydel_roman_guide.shtml
Good luck!
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I haven't played AoE in a long time but I think you definitely want way more villagers than 6 when you tech up to a different age; something like 20 (the risk of rush is pretty small you won't need to tech out of the first age extremely fast).
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Oh man, <3 AOE1. All I remember about the metagame is that heavy catapults are completely imba. I don't think they do friendly fire and there is no counter to a maxed heavy catapult army. The Babylonians get some advantage to catapults so I recall them being awesome in this regard. I think the Choson(?) only cost 35 food per villager - that might be worth exploiting.
The game puts such a high cost on tech though that you really can't expect much unit diversity.
I don't think building walls is a viable defense, there's just too much territory to cover.
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assyrian chariot rush keke !
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i used to play AOE1 deathmatch an awful lot lolz
Choson, Hittite, I believe were the best.
I think there was one other but I can't remember what it was.
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I can barely remember the game, but wasn't the hard counter to like scatter your villagers, fast tech bronze and rush chariot archers?
I seem to remember that being the best play cause they couldn't find your base fast enough and your bronze units would just rape axemen.
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AOE2 is the way to go
1 is just bad
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On May 14 2010 04:01 mmp wrote:
Oh man, <3 AOE1. All I remember about the metagame is that heavy catapults are completely imba. I don't think they do friendly fire and there is no counter to a maxed heavy catapult army. The Babylonians get some advantage to catapults so I recall them being awesome in this regard. I think the Choson(?) only cost 35 food per villager - that might be worth exploiting.
The game puts such a high cost on tech though that you really can't expect much unit diversity.
I don't think building walls is a viable defense, there's just too much territory to cover.
Please Chill...
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BIG DADDY and those laser dudes.
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Oh man AOE1, I played it back in the day on KALI. The 2 best strats were yamato cavalry rush and assyrian chariot archers. The basic idea was to use yamato with cheap cavalry and rush to bronze age. Then you get cavalry and kill their villagers. Yes you want a lot of villagers (20? Been a long time) and no military units until you can get cavalry. You probably want to practice how to get food faster, building granaries along the berry patches and gathering pits near animals you killed.
If he gets hoplites (which are good vs cavalry) just ignore them and kill villagers as you can outrun them.
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dang what an old game, the only aoe in my time was aoe3, i guess some of the long-time members know more about it than me 
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On May 14 2010 04:32 Lusiphur wrote:
Oh man AOE1, I played it back in the day on KALI. The 2 best strats were yamato cavalry rush and assyrian chariot archers. The basic idea was to use yamato with cheap cavalry and rush to bronze age. Then you get cavalry and kill their villagers. Yes you want a lot of villagers (20? Been a long time) and no military units until you can get cavalry. You probably want to practice how to get food faster, building granaries along the berry patches and gathering pits near animals you killed.
If he gets hoplites (which are good vs cavalry) just ignore them and kill villagers as you can outrun them.
Didn't people work out that fishing was more efficient in the end? Or was it foraging? I remember there was a big revolution when someone realized one of those was faster.
OP, check both ^^
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We should organize a TL AOE1 tourney.
whoever wins gets mod powers for a month.
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I believe AOE1 and AOE2 were broken because rushes were too strong. The inablilty to protect workers made it hard for a good player that doesn't rush to survive early.
As for the long game, most defintiely get farms and wood. (farm upgrade) you will have the most wood and food and you can make crappy units but gold is scarce and that is the resource that lets you build a really legit army So a good combination with food/wood units with some that use gold and you are set!
(Market!!!!)
Horse archers also wreck the shit out of everything if you have APM.
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On May 14 2010 04:45 Piy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 04:32 Lusiphur wrote:
Oh man AOE1, I played it back in the day on KALI. The 2 best strats were yamato cavalry rush and assyrian chariot archers. The basic idea was to use yamato with cheap cavalry and rush to bronze age. Then you get cavalry and kill their villagers. Yes you want a lot of villagers (20? Been a long time) and no military units until you can get cavalry. You probably want to practice how to get food faster, building granaries along the berry patches and gathering pits near animals you killed.
If he gets hoplites (which are good vs cavalry) just ignore them and kill villagers as you can outrun them. Didn't people work out that fishing was more efficient in the end? Or was it foraging? I remember there was a big revolution when someone realized one of those was faster. OP, check both ^^
Random browsing on that AoE site gives the impression that everyone gets fishing ships up fast
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I remember there's a cheat code that gives you a car. Used to abuse that shit in single-player so much.
FLYING DUTCHMAN is also a code. Believe it makes your ships fly. Also one that starts with E=MC2 that gives you some shit.
Such a great game... The memories..
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Age of Empires is a very micro-oriented game. And, since the map always changes, you will need to scout.
I suggest that you use 1 villager to scout around with. Use the rest according to your plan (probably delay going to the tool age until at least 10 villagers though), but you need to know where the bushes are, where some animals are, where a gold mine and forest is, nearby choke points and likely directions he will attack from, etc. Building houses in these locations is not a bad idea, because they are very useful for scouting his movement when he does decide to be offensive.
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WRECK HIM, kid deserves it yo.
Post results after the impending rage from him!
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On May 14 2010 05:00 Hans-Titan wrote:
I remember there's a cheat code that gives you a car. Used to abuse that shit in single-player so much.
FLYING DUTCHMAN is also a code. Believe it makes your ships fly. Also one that starts with E=MC2 that gives you some shit.
Such a great game... The memories..
Bigdaddy
e=mc2 trooper
and many more.....
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Damn, this blog brings back memories, I'll try to find and reinstall Aoe1 and maybe also 2 again in the summer holiday. I remember being amazed by how cool hunting looked in aoe1 when i was like 10 :D
thanks, 5/5 blog
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I had 2400 elo on AoE1 in gaming zone, like 10 years ago. 10 years ago i didnt play starcraft at all, I use to play Age.
You are in a good way. But, some advises:
You can hunt, if you hunt with many workers at the same time you can one hit gacels, and quick finish the food before decomposion. Use your starcraft multitask to gain advantage on AoE1, so you can hunt while you are teching. Its better to have near 10 workers instead of 6 before tool age, so you can get some wood asap.
If you have coast, fish with workers, take a loot of wood, make fishing ships, and skip farms until the next tier
Later, dont make 6 raxes, make less and more cavalries or archeries. I remember i used to play one rax, 3 archeries, 2 cavalries until i get charriots or elefants.
The most important resource is THE STONE. Tower rush is the equivalent to a late cannon rush, and is a fucken pain in the ass. Tower blocks tower, so get some stone for defending to a tower rush. If you defend well, you will be much ahead.
Remember that your workers can build together. They build much faster, you will want to build towers with at least 6 of them. The population limit is pretty high, so NEVER STOP MAKING WORKERS
In the last tier, workers have an upgrade that gives them dmg against buildings and elephants. You need it if he got towers or elephants.
Chose your race by their advantage. once you know what you want to do look in the aoe cd or installed files for some word documents that details advantages and disadvantages of each race. I use to play yamato, dont remember if their units build faster, or were cheaper... you search for it.
that what i can recall by now.
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Ahh, I used to play that game a lot. Roman is a nice civ with cheaper buildings, but unless you are using the latest patch (which came out after the game died) Shang just rolled everyone with their 30% cheaper workers (lol i know). Even after the 1.0c patch they are still very strong. Phoenician is another very strong race as well with their woodchopping bonus.
Here are some tips for starters: start farms as late as you can. They are the most inefficient food source.
1. Starting is very important, and not all food sources have same gathering rates (!). Its something like this. I'm going to ignore dock first opening because rush is easier to learn and I assume you are playing mostly land map.
Shorefish (fastes by like 30%t) > hunting = berries > farms
2. In beginning most important is not to get supply blocked and to scout for food. Shorefish are great, especially if they are near a forest - you can put down a storage pit and take care of both your initial food and wood, its like an insanely good economic opening. Not to mention shorefish gather fastest.
3. Storage pit by dual elephant + forest is also possible. Make sure you kite with your villager and dont' have him die to the dumbos.
4. After that just set up steady food and wood sources and tech to tool age around 16-18 villagers for a tool rush. I think 20-24 villagers is standard for a bronze rush.
Which brings me to the metagame a little.
Tool rush > Bronze rush> Spreading out and defending in tool to slower bronze. Game pretty much should end in bronze age at most. Remember scouting is really different in this game, the map is randomly generated and players can have really weird spawn sites (not always across map), in general your units are really slow, have low sight range, and shit can be really hard to find. So against a rush if you spread out all your economic operations all over the place it can take him forever to find you and he can't do enough dmg.
Units:
Fast and ranged units rule in this game in general. Infantry pretty much blows this game with exception of axeman rush.
Stone Age: pretty much not else goes on unless you worker rush (not really viable unless you're Palmyran)
Tool Age: Archers were the original super rush unit, but in expansion they were super hardcountered by slingers. Club / Axeman rushing is good with slinger support in case of archers. REMEMBER TO GET THE ARMOR UPGRADE. the +2 armor effectively triples your HP against villagers and clubmen. Armor ups > Axeman ups > Weapon ups in that order. Scout rushing is possible due to their speed and LOS but they are expensive, weak in straight up fighting and hard to pull off.
Bronze Age: There is a small timing window for cavalry (don't get them if opponent is about to bronze and has access to camels), later on chariot archers are better once you get a few of them. As always, focus is on harass and killing workers. Infantry is not so useful. In late Bronze mass composite archers backed with catapults are the ownage. A lot of civs don't have these required units or upgrades associated with them, so make sure you pick a civ that has these. Phoenician I think has access to chariot archers and cavs easy, and the haxor civ Shang has access too all tech up to Bronze. Rome kinda suffers here because their bonus is infantry (sucks) and they have no chariot or composite archers.
Iron Age: Game should be over now, but cavalry archers and heavy catapults are the ones to get here.
Some of the stuff I remember might be inaccurate or even wrong, but I think this is a pretty good start...
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wow aoe1.blast from the past.. I think I tried a cpl incomplete games here and there only. Pretty funny seeing SC habits/lessons and how they apply (or dont) to other games !
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I think cheats can be used online unless someone turns it off...
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OH YEA: Proxies are like the standard and completely required for rushing, and there's no real way to punish one. Start scouting for your opponent the moment you start researching tool age upgrade and if you are rushing, after you find him start a rax right before you hit tool age upgrade. Time it so that it is complete and immediately start building 2nd rax / archery range / stable as soon as you hit tool age. Send 2 villagers to scout in case of alligators / lions and they are really needed to get the buildings up in time.
Coltrane: Wasn't 10 villagers really really low before tool? I thought 14 was the absolute min, and 16 or so was standard if tool rushing.
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On May 14 2010 05:00 Hans-Titan wrote:
I remember there's a cheat code that gives you a car. Used to abuse that shit in single-player so much.
BIG MOMMA
PHOTON MAN
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Good luck in beating him
By the way, AoE 1 and 2 looks interesting (reminds me of YS Strategy and Empire Earth). Is there anyway to download the full version online for free? 
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STRACRAFT PLAYERRS PRIDE GOGO ESX RAPPTOR!
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I wasn't a huge fan of AoE1 but AoE2 is the shit. Maybe even more so than SC? :X
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I read 'can I lick your ass'.
what's wrong with me..
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Gotta stop watching all that fetish porn.
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That game was my life 10 years ago. So many good memories.
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AoE1 was the 1st rts i ever played...FUN TIMES LOVE THAT GAME...hell im reinstalling it right now bc of this thread and playing it with my new sc:bw sense of rts (gonna rape some cousins of mine who still play on the way mwahahaha (though they prefer AoE2))
edit: does anyone know all the cheat codes and what they do? im rather interested bc i cant remember any (so much fun for single player lol)
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On May 14 2010 07:11 unit wrote:
AoE1 was the 1st rts i ever played...FUN TIMES LOVE THAT GAME...hell im reinstalling it right now bc of this thread and playing it with my new sc:bw sense of rts (gonna rape some cousins of mine who still play on the way mwahahaha (though they prefer AoE2))
edit: does anyone know all the cheat codes and what they do? im rather interested bc i cant remember any (so much fun for single player lol)
Im about to do the same thing lol
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hahaha i know nothing about aoe1 but i hope you wipe the floor with his cocky ass
goodluck!
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AOE1 lol, maybe you guys should play pong
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On May 14 2010 04:22 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 04:01 mmp wrote:
Oh man, <3 AOE1. All I remember about the metagame is that heavy catapults are completely imba. I don't think they do friendly fire and there is no counter to a maxed heavy catapult army. The Babylonians get some advantage to catapults so I recall them being awesome in this regard. I think the Choson(?) only cost 35 food per villager - that might be worth exploiting.
The game puts such a high cost on tech though that you really can't expect much unit diversity.
I don't think building walls is a viable defense, there's just too much territory to cover. Please Chill...
lol i thought the exact same thing when i read this post
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All I remember about AoE1 was that shore fishing (where your villager literally stands on the coast and throws spears at little patches of fish in his range) was one of the fastest ways to gain food. Also if you can micro and he can't, your Bowman pump should rape his Axemen.
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You need to be careful going bowmen in the expansion now, because slingers are super costeffective against them and come right out of rax.
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On May 14 2010 04:01 mmp wrote:
All I remember about the metagame is that heavy catapults are completely imba.
Sweet.
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On May 14 2010 08:35 Metagame wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 04:01 mmp wrote:
All I remember about the metagame is that heavy catapults are completely imba. Sweet.
lol.
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I suggest you go learn a tried and true build order immediately: due to the variety of resources, an aoe build order is not as forgiving as a starcraft one; it needs to be very precise. Past that point the most important thing is to let your bw macro skills take over and just right click those units to his vulnerable spots. In the later stages of the game build units to counter his and patrol them right through his base - patrol is attack move so your gonna depend on it.
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him: get on hamachi noooow goooo noooow what are u waiting foor newbie huh?
him: scared? lololol
him: GET ON NOOW LETS PLAY AOE
him: i will kick ur ass so bad u'll wish u never met me
him: this is not stupid little starcraft mk? this isA MANS GAME SO GET ON
him: 8)
him: D:<
him: walkover for mee then u wuss out.. it was going to be the same outcome anyways
me: ok go
him: finally he shows up after making me wait for over 10 minutes
*it was more like 2*
him: are u ready to get ur ass handed to u?
him: you gonna be sooo sorry todya after this game kid
me: ok
me: go
*i get on and game starts*
I spent most of the day studying and learning toolrushing and strong bronze age attacks and got them down fairly well. Until he decided that we should play on an island map. In any case, I also learned the standard things you should do with your villagers and what to look for in the first place. So it wasn't really that bad.
Too bad he didn't save the replay (he was host) and if he did he wouldn't have given it to me anyways, so I just took a screen shot (after I figured out how) at the end of the game.
I was red.
![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/2euu3ah.jpg) Iron Age
![[image loading]](http://i43.tinypic.com/17yd52.jpg) He quit seconds after I got on his ass
him: u kno what u lucky bastrd that was all luck you got me while i was going for iron age and strong economy if u hadnt attacked me u wouldve been history and fallen under my unstoppable power
him: it was just a matter of time befopre u crubmled little fker
him: but u came up with a shitty army and rushed me like a gya noob learn to play like men woman
him: so rematch.... or wait no..l no rematch just our first true game ok?>
him: i will beat ur sorry ass when im dont have to be feeling sick lately you lucky fucker
*offline*
![[image loading]](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v239/194/91/643940382/n643940382_2896829_239.jpg) FFFUUU much?
Seriously w-t-f?
edit: should I spoiler that pic?
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Lol. Island map. What a noob.
They can be fun and all, but yea..... Generally, they suck.....
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hahahahahaha
YOU went for iron age and a strong economy, that's the best part
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if this guy has an xbox i challenge him to super street fighter 4
or hell just put me in contact with him so i can explain to him what a doofus he is
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Just wondering - do you realize you can "herd" the wildlife closer to any collection point? Gazelles can be chased nearby, and Elephants can follow you until you get nearby.....
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Does this person really exist... I find it hard to believe a person can fail so hard and be so BM.
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^Really? I imagine every other person I play on Battle.net looks/acts exactly like this.
Also, I love the happy ending. EsX_Raptor FIGHTING!!!
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