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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 29 2010 20:18 GMT
#41
Yeah, the "bystander" effect has a lot to do with it I'm afraid. So many people don't want to get involved and figure others will take care of it eventually or that will get sorted out.

Honestly though, shit like what these kids were doing just sickens me, especially since this kid was mentally retarded. Its a good thing for these kids that they weren't anywhere near me; I'd honestly have to really restrain myself from beating the living shit out of them. This kinda goes beyond normal bullying type stuff like name calling and shoving, and is some really debasing and sickening stuff that's a serious affront to someone dignity.
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:32:29
April 29 2010 20:20 GMT
#42
On April 30 2010 05:11 starfries wrote:
If you don't think you can handle it, ask someone to help you out or ask the bus driver. I'm not saying that I personally would have been a hero or even that I would have stood up to them, but there are definitely right courses of action and doing nothing is not one of them.


For once, you are probably right. Making the bus driver do his job and kick those 3 off the bus would probably have been the best course of action without escalating the issue. That is of course, assuming he had that power. Where I live, the bus driver has every right to kick you off for breaking bus rules. But by using that power, they could be potentially risking their jobs. That is America folks.

On April 30 2010 05:18 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 04:45 lone_hydra wrote:
The disgusting thing I find here is how posters call OP out for something 99% of them would have done.

No in fact, I am pretty sure 99% of you wouldn't even have got off the bus because of the inconvience of walking or waiting let alone reflect so hard on yourself afterwards. So screw you internet tough guys.


Dude, I'm the first person to say I'm not a tough guy. I'm also scared to hell of people my age in case they have knives or are better at fighting or are very violent. But ffs, 15 year old Asian kids? Who the fuck is scared of 15 year old Asians? I'd have epic beard manned them.


Epic beard man had a video posted up on youtube to prove he was acting in self defence, fought against a grown man, and he had mental problems so he(or his family) could defend him in court. If you "epic bearded" 3 kids, even in defence of someone else from being harassed(not allowed by law), good luck in court kid. I will send you donations to help pay for lawyer if you ask. But you are gonna need that luck a lot more.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 29 2010 20:23 GMT
#43
For once, you are probably right. Making the bus driver do his job and kick those 3 off the bus would probably have been the best course of action without escalating the issue. That is of course, assuming he had that power. Where I live, the bus driver has every right to kick you off for breaking bus rules. But by using that power, they could be potentially risking their jobs. That is America folks.


Thing is, if the bus driver heard any of this, you'd think he'd be pretty bothered by it as well, and once one person is already the catalyst for getting it to stop, its significantly easier for others to follow suit.
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 29 2010 20:29 GMT
#44
I am really quite surprised that so many people support the OP's actions. Any rational person should have voiced a concern. Perhaps it's a kink in American society, I know you guys do love to disassociate responsibility...but why not be the one person who stands up for the weak and defenceless?

Plus, I reiterate. These are 15 year old Asian kids. What the fuck. I'm more afraid of my shadow.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
April 29 2010 20:30 GMT
#45
On April 30 2010 05:18 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 04:45 lone_hydra wrote:
The disgusting thing I find here is how posters call OP out for something 99% of them would have done.

No in fact, I am pretty sure 99% of you wouldn't even have got off the bus because of the inconvience of walking or waiting let alone reflect so hard on yourself afterwards. So screw you internet tough guys.


Dude, I'm the first person to say I'm not a tough guy. I'm also scared to hell of people my age in case they have knives or are better at fighting or are very violent. But ffs, 15 year old Asian kids? Who the fuck is scared of 15 year old Asians? I'd have epic beard manned them.


This post drips with racism. Take it elsewhere, please.

To the rest of the thread: Sad that so many people are ruled by fear, but understandable as well. Possibly being stabbed for the sake of a retard you don't know doesn't sound like a very good idea.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8899 Posts
April 29 2010 20:32 GMT
#46
15 year old asian kids....doesn't looks so scary....idk
too bad such things happen...
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
April 29 2010 20:32 GMT
#47
"lol when I was riding the bus at your age I was getting girls, not teasing boys -- you guys gay or something?"

that kind of language works miracles on that age group =D
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
April 29 2010 20:33 GMT
#48
On April 30 2010 05:32 eMbrace wrote:
"lol when I was riding the bus at your age I was getting girls, not teasing boys -- you guys gay or something?"

that kind of language works miracles on that age group =D


And what will be your recourse if they are actually gay? Hmmm?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 29 2010 20:34 GMT
#49
i realize you understand you were a bystander..

I know others have said it before...

But fuck you dude.

Completely defenseless person gets molested by a group of children and you do nothing? Learn from this blog/experience: DO SOMETHING.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:41:09
April 29 2010 20:37 GMT
#50
On April 30 2010 05:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i realize you understand you were a bystander..

I know others have said it before...

But fuck you dude.

Completely defenseless person gets molested by a group of children and you do nothing? Learn from this blog/experience: DO SOMETHING.


What??? Do something??? Do what? Of all the people on that bus that stayed on, are they all automatically assholes?

Do what? How you gonna stop them, force? Words (lol)? Altough talking to the bus driver is my best bet, but it is easy to forget the driver can do anything.

He did do something, he got off and chose not to be a part of it. Not the best choice, but a 100 times better than the ones who stayed and did nothing.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:44:19
April 29 2010 20:42 GMT
#51
What??? Do something??? Do what? Of all the people on that bus that stayed on, are they all automatically assholes?

Do what?


There are plenty of things you can do. First off, just tell them to stop. If they ignore you then you can do like someone said and get the bus driver to assist or simply make them stop. Were talking three 14 year old kids here, first off, you can probably beat the shit out of them to begin with. Then again, seeing as we are talking about middle school bullies if you speak firmly and posture yourself well they'll probably just back down anyway since most people that bully at that age are extremely insecure.

Yeah, honestly with these type of kids aggressive words and posture is usually more than enough to make them back down.

Oh man, I'd hate to be these kids on inc's bus.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
April 29 2010 20:42 GMT
#52
On April 30 2010 05:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i realize you understand you were a bystander..

I know others have said it before...

But fuck you dude.

Completely defenseless person gets molested by a group of children and you do nothing? Learn from this blog/experience: DO SOMETHING.

I feel sorry for the 15 year old asian bullies on iNc's bus.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
April 29 2010 20:43 GMT
#53
On April 30 2010 05:37 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 05:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i realize you understand you were a bystander..

I know others have said it before...

But fuck you dude.

Completely defenseless person gets molested by a group of children and you do nothing? Learn from this blog/experience: DO SOMETHING.


What??? Do something??? Do what? Of all the people on that bus that stayed on, are they all automatically assholes?

Do what? How you gonna stop them, force? Words (lol)? He did do something, he got off and chose not to be a part of it. Not the best choice, but a 100 times better than the ones who stayed and did nothing.

They may not ALL be assholes, but they're all afraid of little kids. Hell most humans(at least americans) are freaked out by any sort of interaction they aren't used to.

For the argument if they had a knife or any other weapon, you think first of all a 15 yo kid knows how to use a knife properly? just smack the shit out of them, they'll just cry and run away.
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
April 29 2010 20:44 GMT
#54
Don't do anything.

A punishment for a wrongdoing is far better delivered when instead of someone else making note of it, you yourself come to its realization.

As we speak, the punishment in those kids is dwelling within them in the form of a time bomb; when the day comes in which they remember every second they gave torture to that poor and defenseless child whilst their minds get utterly fulfilled with the contemplation of their unnoticed immorality.

You, my friend, can’t deliver such a blow with a simple, physical halting action against them.
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:49:24
April 29 2010 20:45 GMT
#55
On April 30 2010 05:37 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 05:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i realize you understand you were a bystander..

I know others have said it before...

But fuck you dude.

Completely defenseless person gets molested by a group of children and you do nothing? Learn from this blog/experience: DO SOMETHING.


What??? Do something??? Do what? Of all the people on that bus that stayed on, are they all automatically assholes?

Do what? How you gonna stop them, force? Words (lol)? Altough talking to the bus driver is my best bet, but it is easy to forget the driver can do anything.

He did do something, he got off and chose not to be a part of it. Not the best choice, but a 100 times better than the ones who stayed and did nothing.


Explain.

This is an absolutely idiotic thing to say. Explain how removing oneself from the scene is better than staying. The only reason to do so is to remove culpability or because one is aware that it is wrong but too chickenshit to do anything about it.

That's what having morals is. It's not doing something only when you're not feeling to pussy to do something. It's doing it regardless.

Sure, most of the people in this thread wouldn't do anything. That doesn't mean its right, nor that it's wrong to say that doing something is better than not doing something.

Inaction of the masses is not justification for it. You're using your own stupid argument about the majority in two completely different ways.

People in this thread making tons of conjectures like how full the bus was, whether the kids had knives, etc, things that nobody but the OP is in the circumstances to address are in no position to come to any conclusions.

Maybe if they had knives or guns, then yes, stay back. Maybe if you're a giant pussy and you are afraid that 3 15 year olds will mob you and you're scared, stay back. Nobody is going to hold it against you - you're scared, most people would be.

It doesn't mean it was the "correct" thing to do, only the "safe" thing. Who says safety = correctness?

What would I do? I would stop them. Yes, because I'm not a bitch, and I'm not going to watch some faggot bullies pick on a defenseless mentally retarded person. Would I back off if they pulled a knife on me, or a gun? Yea, probably, almost certainly. But I wouldn't do nothing because I was afraid they MIGHT have one. I would fucking find out, because this kind of bullying is one of the worst things humans can do.

Again, being scared of doing the right thing does not make doing nothing somehow now the right thing. It just means you are scared. Is there something wrong with being scared? Not really. But let's not paint it as something else. Is it the most rational, logical, utilitarian, self-serving thing to do? Yes, doing nothing will almost always fit those requirements.

On April 30 2010 05:46 EmeraldSparks wrote:
@ everyone who thinks that you can "kick the asses of" three teenagers with knives:

Really?


Yet another laconic, smirking, superior post with no content meant to show how much more aware of the real world a poster is. Where the fuck did the knives even come from? Exercise your admittedly limited mental faculties and read the thread before making a reply.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 29 2010 20:46 GMT
#56
You, my friend, can’t deliver such a blow with a simple, physical halting action against them.


Lol, but you can help out the person that's being bullied. Its not so much about punishing the bullies as it is about putting an end to their pathetic behavior.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:47:22
April 29 2010 20:46 GMT
#57
@ everyone who thinks that you can "kick the asses of" three teenagers with knives:

Really?

[[edit]] i guess inc could do it though he's built like a truck
But why?
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 29 2010 20:47 GMT
#58
On April 30 2010 05:30 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 05:18 sc4k wrote:
On April 30 2010 04:45 lone_hydra wrote:
The disgusting thing I find here is how posters call OP out for something 99% of them would have done.

No in fact, I am pretty sure 99% of you wouldn't even have got off the bus because of the inconvience of walking or waiting let alone reflect so hard on yourself afterwards. So screw you internet tough guys.


Dude, I'm the first person to say I'm not a tough guy. I'm also scared to hell of people my age in case they have knives or are better at fighting or are very violent. But ffs, 15 year old Asian kids? Who the fuck is scared of 15 year old Asians? I'd have epic beard manned them.


This post drips with racism. Take it elsewhere, please.

To the rest of the thread: Sad that so many people are ruled by fear, but understandable as well. Possibly being stabbed for the sake of a retard you don't know doesn't sound like a very good idea.


Racism? Really? Is it really racist to say that Asians are on average smaller and less physically imposing than whites and blacks? And that 15 year old kids are on average smaller and less physically imposing than 18 year olds? Perhaps I should have emphasised the age, because that is of course more of a factor. But if you gave 100 people the choice:

'hey, a magic wizard says you have to fight a human to the death with your bare hands. You get to choose the race- white black or asian, which do you choose?'

how many you think would pick Asian?
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 29 2010 20:47 GMT
#59
Visitor Q anyone? I immediately thought about that.
ggaemo fan
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 29 2010 20:48 GMT
#60
On April 30 2010 05:46 EmeraldSparks wrote:
@ everyone who thinks that you can "kick the asses of" three teenagers with knives


agree with you there. Although the OP mentioned nothing about knives
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