EPTAnd that's the saddest part is that that feeling of disgust is not because those bullies messed with the retarded boy and no one stoping it, I'm disgusted with myself for not being able to help if it came to that.
Disturbing thing that I saw on the bus. - Page 6
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matko5
Croatia385 Posts
And that's the saddest part is that that feeling of disgust is not because those bullies messed with the retarded boy and no one stoping it, I'm disgusted with myself for not being able to help if it came to that. | ||
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:19 SirIsaacNewton wrote: The incident on the bus made me wonder are most humans just sick that way? For me this is more interesting than the incident itself... Lot of fucked up shit in the world, makes you wonder if we are really good at heart or not. On April 30 2010 07:06 Frost.stropheum wrote: Edit: I'll get banned for speaking the truth about this blog I demand you speak the truth about this blog. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
On April 30 2010 06:45 Pika Chu wrote: I'd rather have the guys keep making fun of me than having another guy get beat down because of trying to help me. If he CAN help me, that's obviously what he should do, but if he can't i don't see the point in how him getting beat up can help me. I quote Gandhi, i admire Gandhi, i am not Gandhi, i could never be like Gandhi. Allow me to educate you, since you quote a man whom you wholeheartedly disagree with: Gandhi's "strategy" was to aggressively appeal to the good within people by creating an impasse that would necessitate surrender or acts of even stronger injustice (injustices that he wagered a moral man would refuse, lest he risk the backlash of widespread hatred). You must transparently be on the side of your aggressor to be an effective negotiator: physical intimidation is counter productive to this end. Therefore a person of meek physique is no less empowered to enact this strategy. In the case of this bus example, an elderly person or a younger child is no weaker provided they can communicate effectively - anyone who attacks the defenseless is the lowest of scum, and civil societies won't tolerate it when properly informed, concerned, and motivated (the OP left his balls at home). You seem to understand the "passive" part of passive/non-violent resistance, but not the "resistance." The greatest injustices in today's world continue because people with power (whether it's political, financial, physical, or vocal) don't have the balls to step up and make someone else's problems their own. (Also, people are uneducated, scared, or lack confidence in themselves.) | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
On April 30 2010 06:53 BalloonFight wrote: sup brah I think you might have some difficulty coming to grips with some of the things being said in this thread. Honestly, there's really no point in replying to someone so profoundly proud of their own inability to read something in its entirety before they reply. But I'm doing it anyways, because I'm bored waiting for a class to begin. yet another laconic, smirking, superior post with no content meant to show how much more aware of the real world a poster is bonus points for overwhelming self-righteousness, witty insults, and moving the goalposts On April 30 2010 06:53 BalloonFight wrote: You do realize that your post about maximizing one's own utility being a poor moral argument, which I assume we are using in the Lockean sense, is completely at odds with your previous posts about not trying to take on kids with knives (who were made up by some other poster, and whose stupidity you have chosen to perpetuate). i guess you could see them at completely at odds if you chose to read a ton of shit into my posts that isn't there enjoy your class | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On April 30 2010 07:28 mmp wrote: Allow me to educate you, since you quote a man whom you wholeheartedly disagree with: Gandhi's "strategy" was to aggressively appeal to the good within people by creating an impasse that would necessitate surrender or acts of even stronger injustice (injustices that he wagered a moral man would refuse, lest he risk the backlash of widespread hatred). You must transparently be on the side of your aggressor to be an effective negotiator: physical intimidation is counter productive to this end. Therefore a person of meek physique is no less empowered to enact this strategy. In the case of this bus example, an elderly person or a younger child is no weaker provided they can communicate effectively - anyone who attacks the defenseless is the lowest of scum, and civil societies won't tolerate it when properly informed, concerned, and motivated (the OP left his balls at home). You seem to understand the "passive" part of passive/non-violent resistance, but not the "resistance." The greatest injustices in today's world continue because people with power (whether it's political, financial, physical, or vocal) don't have the balls to step up and make someone else's problems their own. (Also, people are uneducated, scared, or lack confidence in themselves.) My suggestion for you is don't use "educate" as you sound nothing than an arrogant prick and makes people skip the rest of your post. Read the bottom of my previous post that you have quoted. It's enough. | ||
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vlaric
United States412 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
RIP THE LEGEND. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Shout at them. Throw your bag. Demand others help you out. Make a fucking scene. If you sit there feeling bad about the mentally handicapped individual that is being picked on you are A PART OF THE PROBLEM. Yep I'm big and I'd use that. If I was small I'd do everything I could to use what I've got. I don't want to hear some psycho analytical babble about how I couldn't possibly know that perspective blah blah blah cause I am afraid it doesn't matter. If the dudes were 30 years old and twice the size of me I would STILL say something. I cannot fathom living my life knowing I I stood by and watched something like that happen. I'd literally die for that cause. Call me crazy but there are a few things in life I am willing to go down for and my self respect, integrity and the love of humanity is one of them. Additionally, I've done this shit before. I've literally ran into a group of 5 or 6 people that were beating the shit out of my "partner" (we were bouncers) she was 120 lbs and frail and defenseless for the most part. I didn't run in because otherwise I'd be fired or look bad I did it because a human being had no hope except for someone to do something. This kid didn't die and wasn't being hurt in a serious way so you'll have to excuse my extremism in the earlier portion of my post but I am just illustrating how far I'd be willing to go with it.. most likely small or big if you make a commanding and strong demand that these kids stop whether you are small or large they will listen. if they go beyond that it is up to you how far you will take it. BUT AT LEAST YOU DID SOMETHING | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
and so did this scene Diner Fight Guy 1: ~ the f**k is wrong with you, man? You rather die for some piece of s**t that you don't even f**king know? Dave Lizewski: And three assholes, laying it in one guy while everyone else watches? [reaches for air] Dave Lizewski: And you wanna know what's wrong with me? Yeah, I'd rather die... so bring it on! fuck it. lets throw down | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On April 30 2010 08:11 Pika Chu wrote: My suggestion for you is don't use "educate" as you sound nothing than an arrogant prick and makes people skip the rest of your post. Read the bottom of my previous post that you have quoted. It's enough. Are you saying you quote Gandhi, you admire Gandhi, but you have no idea what his principles were and have no desire to learn? because it sure sounds like you are. | ||
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BalloonFight
United States2007 Posts
On April 30 2010 07:48 EmeraldSparks wrote: yet another laconic, smirking, superior post with no content meant to show how much more aware of the real world a poster is bonus points for overwhelming self-righteousness, witty insults, and moving the goalposts i guess you could see them at completely at odds if you chose to read a ton of shit into my posts that isn't there enjoy your class Yo man, you truly are stupid. I'm done replying to you. It would be better to take the high road and ignore your idiocy right here but I just can't, I gotta let you know one more time how disappointing it is to see how completely you are unable to understand the simple things in front of you. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
blaming and implicating won't get anybody anywhere | ||
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sLiniss
United States849 Posts
 Sometimes people just don't make sense, such a tragedy. | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
On April 30 2010 09:13 BalloonFight wrote: Yo man, you truly are stupid. I'm done replying to you. It would be better to take the high road and ignore your idiocy right here but I just can't, I gotta let you know one more time how disappointing it is to see how completely you are unable to understand the simple things in front of you. i seem to remember you insulting somebody for making contentless posts earlier today hmmmmmmmmmmmm | ||
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sixduck
United States301 Posts
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
On April 30 2010 08:11 Pika Chu wrote: My suggestion for you is don't use "educate" as you sound nothing than an arrogant prick and makes people skip the rest of your post. Read the bottom of my previous post that you have quoted. It's enough. You're no fun at all. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7131/calmdownj.jpg) I'm pretty mixed about this. I'll admit that I'm not as "brave" as some of these posters in here claim to be since I do value my safety. This situation totally reminds me of this incident where a woman was robbed and then stabbed outside her apartment complex. The neighbors looked out the window and saw what was going on, but did not bother to do anything. A couple of minutes later, the robber came back to stab the woman again when she was laying on the floor bleeding and screaming. If I were to jump in and help the victim, I would try to gather any support I can around me. If there's no one around or no one that doesn't want to help, I'll have to bring some sort of weapon for defensive as a precaution. EDIT: Since the OP lives in the Bay Area, this also reminds me of the recently confrontation on the MUNI bus with "epic beard man" and Michael. | ||
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