EPT, and then this guy took out a gum that he was chewing and made the retarded kid chew it.
Disturbing thing that I saw on the bus. - Page 2
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exalted
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lone_hydra
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No in fact, I am pretty sure 99% of you wouldn't even have got off the bus because of the inconvience of walking or waiting let alone reflect so hard on yourself afterwards. So screw you internet tough guys. He did the next best thing by not being a part of it and not being a bystander. I mean, who on the bus can he tell that will actually do shit? Everyone knows this is happening and not doing a thing. The best thing would be to stand up for the kid but you know what, you can expect from people to be good, but you can't expect everyone to be heroes. | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:41 Ronald_McD wrote: I read up to here and instantly thought "did YOU do anything?" And read on to the bottom to see that you didn't. By the way, why is it necessary to point out that the kids were Asian? If they were white (or whatever ethnicity you are) kids would you have said "15 year old white kids?" I doubt it. who cares? | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:45 lone_hydra wrote: The disgusting thing I find here is how posters call OP out for something 99% of them would have done. No in fact, I am pretty sure 99% of you wouldn't even have got off the bus because of the inconvience let alone reflect so hard on yourself afterwards. So screw you guys. He did the next best thing by not being a part of it and not being a bystander. I mean, who on the bus can he tell that will actually do shit? Everyone knows this is happening and not doing a thing. The best thing would be to stand up for the kid but you know what, you can expect from people to be good, but you can't expect everyone to be heroes. I don't believe that. Do you really think that 99% of people wouldn't at least tell the kids to shut the hell up and leave him alone? No one's saying he had to be a hero and beat up the guys (Kick Ass anyone?) but a lot of the time all you have to do is say something. If they gave him shit after that he could easily have just gotten off the bus or went back to his seat. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:50 starfries wrote: I don't believe that. Do you really think that 99% of people wouldn't at least tell the kids to shut the hell up and leave him alone? No one's saying he had to be a hero and beat up the guys (Kick Ass anyone?) but a lot of the time all you have to do is say something. If they gave him shit after that he could easily have just gotten off the bus or went back to his seat. Really? He was on a bus in San Fransico during the the weekend with students on vactaion. I think it would be a pretty good guess that a shit ton of people were on that bus. And since no one did shit according to him, I think 99% is a good estimate. | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:50 starfries wrote: I don't believe that. Do you really think that 99% of people wouldn't at least tell the kids to shut the hell up and leave him alone? No one's saying he had to be a hero and beat up the guys (Kick Ass anyone?) but a lot of the time all you have to do is say something. If they gave him shit after that he could easily have just gotten off the bus or went back to his seat. Yes. See also: any of the Wikipedia articles that have been linked in the thread, including a case case where nobody did anything over a murder that lasted an entire hour. So yes, if people can't be arsed to call the cops for blatant murder, I can definitely how they wouldn't go out of their way to deal with bullies on a bus. | ||
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The6357
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PH
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On April 30 2010 04:22 il0seonpurpose wrote: The question is why didn't you do anything about it? You go on blaming other people asking if the world is still humane and you did the exact same thing... On April 30 2010 04:27 Jerebread wrote: Exactly my thoughts. The disturbing thing is that you just got off at the next stop without doing anything. On April 30 2010 04:37 spinesheath wrote: I too wonder why you didn't do anything. Your language makes me believe that you are old enough to deal with a bunch of 14 year olds. And since you made a blog about it it's obvious that you noticed that something's wrong there. On April 30 2010 04:40 exalted wrote: yeah why didn't you step in you fucking fatass OP I am 99% positive you guys would have done the exact same thing as the OP. Don't think so highly of yourselves. | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:54 lone_hydra wrote: Really? He was on a bus in San Fransico during the the weekend with students on vactaion. I think it would be a pretty good guess that a shit ton of people were on that bus. And since no one did shit according to him, I think 99% is a good estimate. the OP made it sound like he was quite a bit older than some highschool freshman, and so it's really not that hard to get some kids to stop doing something on a public bus. but i guess that depends on how big you are and how you carry yourself, because they sound like kids that would talk back. if the OP was the adult on the bus, he should of done something since he was obviously extremely bothered by it. but since he didn't, i'm going to he assume he didn't think he was in the position to have any effect on the kids. nothing wrong with that either, don't get into battles you can't win. i probably wouldn't have been able to do anything either. | ||
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Draconizard
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Kenpachi
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On April 30 2010 05:04 Kenpachi wrote: guys if he helped the kid, what would you guys be saying? It would be a totally different story. Doubt it, we'd get a lot of "cool story bro" comments. People are shitty to each other in general. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 30 2010 05:00 PH wrote: I am 99% positive you guys would have done the exact same thing as the OP. Don't think so highly of yourselves. Of course I wouldn't know until I get into such a situation. However, back then I was being bullied myself, so I obviously want to stop such stuff. | ||
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Kralic
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:54 EmeraldSparks wrote: Yes. See also: any of the Wikipedia articles that have been linked in the thread, including a case case where nobody did anything over a murder that lasted an entire hour. So yes, if people can't be arsed to call the cops for blatant murder, I can definitely how they wouldn't go out of their way to deal with bullies on a bus. I know about bystander nonintervention since we studied these cases in class. But this is different. In Kitty Genovese's cases, not everyone realized what actually was going on, and even if they did, some thought that someone else had called for help. And while no one went to help her, there were calls to the police and someone did shout at the attacker. Did you read the article? It's a lot different on the bus, where the perpetrators are just kids, everyone knows exactly what's going on, and they know that no one has stepped up. In fact, if we're going to talk about disgusting, this statement is itself pretty bad. On April 30 2010 04:45 lone_hydra wrote: The disgusting thing I find here is how posters call OP out for something 99% of them would have done. Are you really saying that it's disgusting that a lot of people know and stated what the right course of action should have been, whether or not they had the balls to carry it out themselves? It's a lot better than saying that since the majority of people would do nothing, the right course of action is to do nothing. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On April 30 2010 05:08 starfries wrote: Are you really saying that it's disgusting that a lot of people know and stated what the right course of action should have been, whether or not they had the balls to carry it out themselves? It's a lot better than saying that since the majority of people would do nothing, the right course of action is to do nothing. Ahaha no, they were not merely stating what is right. First of all, they were condemning OP for not doing something they couldn't do themselves. Its like telling off a stranger for not being able to be a hero and stop a house from burning down when they themselves can't do shit about the house burning down. The hypocricy is what is disgusting. Now lets assume you did say something to those 3 guys. Chances are, those 3 guys, being the trashy douches they are, are gonna come and hassle you unless you are fucking intimidatingly ripped or have friends backing you up. So now what? You gonna fight and kick their ass? Beating 3 pre-teen kids in America is gonna get your ass sued by their parents(who prbably spoil them) because that is just how America is. Like, you might get fired for stopping a robbery in America. So you get up and leave after they hassle the kid, now those 3 guys are gonna just hassle the victim even more to take out fustration unless more than 1 person (fat chance of that happening), or 1 powerful person (in status, ex. cop, or in strength), stood up for that kid. There is probably a right way to do things without getting your own ass fried, but it is hard to think of it on the spot. I can't even think of a way right now without escalating the issue. | ||
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starfries
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Misrah
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mmp
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On April 30 2010 05:08 Kralic wrote: Where I live, stopping some "kids" on a bus usually tends to them pulling a knife and taking some swings at you with it. This is sad but true. Kids these days are packing more weapons (crude or sophisticated) than they deserve to be. But the bottom line here is that this kind of aggression is illegal and police will happily escort punks like this away. If you're on a bus though and someone threatens you - don't initiate a fight, just back up to the driver, tell them there is a disturbance on their bus and to radio for a police car and that you're committing a citizen's arrest for assault. You have ample witnesses, your assailants have no choice but to stay and get arrested or gtfo, and if you should get hurt you're guaranteed immediate attention. If they're carrying any concealed weapon at all, chances are very good that they're going to get in a shitload of trouble when they're patted down. Furthermore, announcing to witnesses in advance that it's a citizen's arrest implies any fight you engage in is an act of self-defense, provided your injury to them is proportional to their threat and not excessive. This means legal protection that you wouldn't have if you'd just straight up gotten into a brawl and both of you were apprehended - they could say you started it, etc. I wouldn't try this for petty matters if gang violence is out of control where you live or if you don't trust law enforcement to take the matter seriously (depends on the zeal of your police force, race relations, overall crime level), but these kids sound like schoolyard peons. Should be safe in most U.S. cities though. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:45 lone_hydra wrote: The disgusting thing I find here is how posters call OP out for something 99% of them would have done. No in fact, I am pretty sure 99% of you wouldn't even have got off the bus because of the inconvience of walking or waiting let alone reflect so hard on yourself afterwards. So screw you internet tough guys. Dude, I'm the first person to say I'm not a tough guy. I'm also scared to hell of people my age in case they have knives or are better at fighting or are very violent. But ffs, 15 year old Asian kids? Who the fuck is scared of 15 year old Asians? I'd have epic beard manned them. | ||
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