On April 28 2010 02:14 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2010 22:24 EntertainMe wrote:
IMO, if Alien's are that technologically advanced, able to travel billions lightyears within our life spam, they wouldn't need us in the first place. Also, going by his number theory, even if they are looking for a planet to leech off of, I'm sure there are alot more planet(number theory) like us closer to them or even with more resource.
Conclusion, it's interesting, but not worrisome.
Like Southlight said, attentions there only because Stephen Hawking said it. Sure, but if they were carbon-based organisms like ourselves and other forms of life on Earth, then it's logical that they would have extra affinity for a world like Earth, which to our current knowledge, is the only place capable of sustaining carbon-based life forms. Too seek out aliens would be like dangling meat in front of a wolf. Also, your usage of the term, "number theory", doesn't make sense. Number theory is a branch of pure maths. Maybe you mean statistical likelihood - although statistics cannot exist for something that is unknown like life on other planets. Therefore, logically speaking, there is no basis to determine whether life exists in other parts of the universe or its nature.
Given the fact that if said aliens managed to travel such whatever distance they would be surprised to see we are already stripping the planet of it's resources and the planet itself in bad shape.
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On April 28 2010 09:07 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2010 06:56 obesechicken13 wrote:I think Hawking needs to rethink his theory for more reasons than one. As people have said an advanced enough civilization would not need to find resources as we do, colonizing planets and stripping it of resources (Hawking's been playing too much DOW2 lol). In addition as someone else said an advanced civilization, if it wanted to find other civilizations, would have already found us if it were capable of finding us at all. And the third and final point to make is that an advanced enough life, if it moved past its colonization phase without developing a technology capable of finding earth, would probably have developed to a stage past human comprehension. They wouldn't be little green men. It's an interesting theory, but it competes with every single other plausible but not probable theory of alien life out there, without having any notable advantage. edit: spelt his name wrong  You're thinking of "resources" in a simplistic sense. The basis of resources and scarcity within the physical universe is simply energy/matter. Matter translates into energy and vice versa. This is the "stuff" with which the physical world is made of. Potential energy, stored energy, etc are all resources for an advanced civilization. We're not talking about lumber and deer skins here. It doesn't matter how advanced a civilization is, it most likely cannot create matter/energy out of a vacuum. It will still have an economy that relies on energy/matter conversion, storage, and circulation. Therefore, the "resources" of planet Earth would be its energy potential, geothermal, kinetic etc. The same with our sun. It's basically a giant fusion energy reactor. While an alien species may not come down to our planet as little green men and shoot us with lasers, they could just as easily fly into our solar system, encase our sun in a dyson sphere that is designed to siphon the energy emanating from it, and thereby starve our solar system of energy. That would be absolute catastrophe for the human species, and to the alien species it's as simple as plugging a power cord into an outlet.
I don't recall thinking of deerskin when I made that comment
On April 28 2010 08:19 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2010 06:56 obesechicken13 wrote:I think Hawking needs to rethink his theory for more reasons than one. As people have said an advanced enough civilization would not need to find resources as we do, colonizing planets and stripping it of resources (Hawking's been playing too much DOW2 lol). In addition as someone else said an advanced civilization, if it wanted to find other civilizations, would have already found us if it were capable of finding us at all. And the third and final point to make is that an advanced enough life, if it moved past its colonization phase without developing a technology capable of finding earth, would probably have developed to a stage past human comprehension. They wouldn't be little green men. It's an interesting theory, but it competes with every single other plausible but not probable theory of alien life out there, without having any notable advantage. edit: spelt his name wrong curious. you. an average what. college -goer thinks that one of the smartest men in the world should change his theory? dont you think he spends a BIT more time thinking things over than you?
Yeah he's definitely smarter than me... but that doesn't mean that his theory doesn't have some holes.
To use an analogy, just because Einstein was Chrisitian, it doesn't mean that I have to be.
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