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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
April 27 2010 14:51 GMT
#21
I get the feeling that if we ever make contact with aliens they will be so entirely different from us in every way imaginable that we won't even be able to understand what is going on... Perhaps in their solar system a 1000 megaton nuclear warhead fired from orbit is considered a good way to say hello, because radiation gives them strong bones and teeth.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 27 2010 15:03 GMT
#22
On April 27 2010 23:33 Hawk wrote:
wouldn't necessarily be too bad. This would be bitchin'


Nice trolling, you know it'd be nothing like that.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7ZRK7o6Xg
It'd be like this.
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 27 2010 15:10 GMT
#23
I'm watching Hawking's new show right now. There's nothing new that you can't find on similar documentaries on youtube already. The show is just really well made with good examples and visuals.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
April 27 2010 15:12 GMT
#24
Space sluts and banishment to Hoboken ain't too bad either!!~!

being somewhat serious, I can't believe people think that what hawkins said is weird
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 27 2010 15:38 GMT
#25
On April 28 2010 00:03 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2010 23:33 Hawk wrote:
wouldn't necessarily be too bad. This would be bitchin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhTKuZ5S_oA

Nice trolling, you know it'd be nothing like that.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7ZRK7o6Xg
It'd be like this.


Obviously
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
April 27 2010 15:46 GMT
#26
On April 27 2010 22:44 plated.rawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2010 22:24 EntertainMe wrote:
IMO, if Alien's are that technologically advanced, able to travel billions lightyears within our life spam, they wouldn't need us in the first place. Also, going by his number theory, even if they are looking for a planet to leech off of, I'm sure there are alot more planet(number theory) like us closer to them or even with more resource.
Conclusion, it's interesting, but not worrisome.
Like Southlight said, attentions there only because Stephen Hawking said it.

Yea, humans are obviously the prime resource on our planet, not the planet itself.

I feel Hawkings is just stating the obvious here. You have the obvious example in your fellow man with the raping of new land and decimation of their native inhabitants, so why should you expect any better from some extraplanar species? It'd be naive.


There are all sorts of philosophical arguments, like a species that lived long enough to achieve interstellar travel would have had to learn how to conserve resources... unless a barbaric species like us was given the technology by an older, more mature race.

Either way it's all been discussed ad nauseum in about six thousand sci-fi books in the past century or so.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
April 27 2010 15:48 GMT
#27
hawking has been talking about this for over 30 years
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
April 27 2010 15:49 GMT
#28
Yeah, because a highly advanced intelligent race with the technology to travel such large distances that they'd be able to make physical contact with us couldn't find better ways to get needed resources. They'd certainly rather fight over the small amount we humans haven't already stripped from this planet. Let's never mind that the biosphere is unlikely to one that they could even survive in anyway. It's sad, because even Mass Effect's take on the future of space seems more reasonable than this.

It's highly unlikely that any alien race would care about Earth for any other reason than that it also eventually held intelligent life. And in that sense, they'd probably steer clear since despite their likely curiosity, as dealing with a species that can't even get along with their own kind long enough to work toward a greater good seems dangerous and unrewarding.


wru Carl Sagan
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 27 2010 15:56 GMT
#29
I too think that the chance that some kind of life form exists out there is high, just because of the sheer numbers.

It sounds pretty stupid though to fear an alien invasion for something like resources. If an intelligent species develops interest in humanity then probably rather for research or enslavement (unlikely for a space travelling race) or anything where they need actual humans.
There's no point in travelling all the way to earth for resources, the universe has plenty of everything. Why would you start a war over resources on a far away planet when there's a million times as much right in front of your door?
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
April 27 2010 15:57 GMT
#30
I've always been under the impression that if aliens showed up we'd be fucked. I've pretty much always believed in them as well. Imagine if zerg/protoss/alien/predator just showed up? That'd be gay. Even the lizard monsters on "V" are up to something (decent show btw, check it out airs tuesdays - see on tv-dome.net)

Has anyone ever seen the movie The Fourth Kind? That was some pretty freaky shit since most of that stuff happened to those people. I'm gullible and don't think the doctor would lie about the research. Shit was definitely going down.

AND STONEHENGE? THE LATEST INDIANA JONES MOVIE!? Well the latest indi movie sucked but still, aliens signs exist i bet oo

lol spacecoke.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
April 27 2010 16:31 GMT
#31
On April 27 2010 23:09 meteorskunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2010 22:25 jello_biafra wrote:
On April 27 2010 22:20 madnessman wrote:
It seems a bit too sci-fi movie like to me. I agree that aliens probably exist due to the galaxy's immense size but they are assuming that aliens will act like how we humans acted in the past.

I think the biggest assumption is that they'd actually be able to reach us. I don't think it's too much to assume that if there is a race of highly intelligent beings out there with technology far superior to ours that they'd probably be malevolent.


Oh really? Why haven't they blown each other up then? Or are they something like planetary outlaws who have already blown planets and committed genocides?

Malevolent towards the inferior beings they encounter (us), not each other :O
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TheRunawayFound
Profile Joined March 2009
64 Posts
April 27 2010 16:51 GMT
#32
Well, using simple logics, if aliens can reach us in any near future, then its very probable they already have found us.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
April 27 2010 16:53 GMT
#33
On April 28 2010 00:49 QibingZero wrote:
Yeah, because a highly advanced intelligent race with the technology to travel such large distances that they'd be able to make physical contact with us couldn't find better ways to get needed resources. They'd certainly rather fight over the small amount we humans haven't already stripped from this planet. Let's never mind that the biosphere is unlikely to one that they could even survive in anyway. It's sad, because even Mass Effect's take on the future of space seems more reasonable than this.

It's highly unlikely that any alien race would care about Earth for any other reason than that it also eventually held intelligent life. And in that sense, they'd probably steer clear since despite their likely curiosity, as dealing with a species that can't even get along with their own kind long enough to work toward a greater good seems dangerous and unrewarding.


wru Carl Sagan


By far the most reasonable post thus far.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-27 17:21:09
April 27 2010 17:14 GMT
#34
On April 27 2010 22:24 EntertainMe wrote:
IMO, if Alien's are that technologically advanced, able to travel billions lightyears within our life spam, they wouldn't need us in the first place. Also, going by his number theory, even if they are looking for a planet to leech off of, I'm sure there are alot more planet(number theory) like us closer to them or even with more resource.
Conclusion, it's interesting, but not worrisome.
Like Southlight said, attentions there only because Stephen Hawking said it.


Sure, but if they were carbon-based organisms like ourselves and other forms of life on Earth, then it's logical that they would have extra affinity for a world like Earth, which to our current knowledge, is the only place capable of sustaining carbon-based life forms. Too seek out aliens would be like dangling meat in front of a wolf.

Also, your usage of the term, "number theory", doesn't make sense. Number theory is a branch of pure maths. Maybe you mean statistical likelihood - although statistics cannot exist for something that is unknown like life on other planets. Therefore, logically speaking, there is no basis to determine whether life exists in other parts of the universe or its nature.
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Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
April 27 2010 17:39 GMT
#35
Why does everyone always assume aliens are evil :s
bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
April 27 2010 17:45 GMT
#36
Given the eccentricity of geniuses past, I was wondering when Hawking would join them. This is a step that I've long awaited. He may be right, but it's certainly an odd topic to discuss.
A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isnt' there. -Charles Darwin
Lobotomy
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States300 Posts
April 27 2010 18:16 GMT
#37
Like someone said previously in this blog. Hawking always believed there was intelligence out there. It's just now, he is becoming more public with it.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
April 27 2010 18:39 GMT
#38
On April 28 2010 02:39 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Why does everyone always assume aliens are evil :s


You're right, stuff like Andromeda Strain are probably mathematically more likely. But that's "boring."
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 27 2010 18:41 GMT
#39
saw this on Nat. Geo the night before.

he's a brilliant man. our solar system is just 1 in a hundred billion in our leg of the galaxy
our galaxy being just one in an infinite amount in our universe

to say that we are the only sentient life would be mistaken.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-27 19:40:46
April 27 2010 19:40 GMT
#40
On April 28 2010 02:39 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Why does everyone always assume aliens are evil :s


Because it's generally accepted that the dominant species of a planet is dominant because it learned to exploit resources and other species.

Dunno why someone would think that exploitation would stop merely because we can travel in space now.
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