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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
March 25 2010 05:46 GMT
#81
Oh, well. These things will happen, but it is a a shame when you spend so much time with someone and really grow to appreciate the person that they are only to later get shit on.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 25 2010 08:29 GMT
#82
--- Nuked ---
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
March 25 2010 09:30 GMT
#83
Humans are born to suffer.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
March 25 2010 10:13 GMT
#84
What hurts the most is being so close, and having so much to say but watching her walk away.. and never knowing what could have been =p and not seeing that loving her was what you were trying to do
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
March 25 2010 10:44 GMT
#85
I'm feeling ok now. Some sleep fixed it.

It's amazing how many people came here to give me their advices even when i specified i don't need any. I only asked a question and all i wanted maybe was people to read and listen to me. Simple as it is i don't need advices, i know what i've done wrong and most of your advices are standard bullcrap to be honest.

I didn't give you much details of this (like making it a whole story and what-not) simply because it's not advices that I was seeking. So you guys pretty much went all-out blaming me and telling me I'm a pussy and what not over ... nothing? I didn't mention the background, didn't mention my previous encounters with her or what i speak with her. And neither do i want to let everyone know about the whole thing.

Just to try and clear a couple of things here that went really overboard:
- lol, this is far from being my first relation or encounter and i do consider i have some decent experience with women
- don't tell me it's over guys, i've said that from the first post... i'm happy i got a clear answer and i'm definitely not trying again, what's done is done.... all i said was that it hurts
- i didn't pour my soul on her neither went needy over her looking like an insecure geek. and it certainly wasn't something like "i love you and want to be with you forever and ever and ever because i'm hanging onto you and praise you and put you on a shiny pedestal". i do know what you guys are talking about but that's simply not the case here
- And some are saying to not worsen my situation? What situation mates, it's all clear. As about friendship we'll remain friends and colleagues don't worry about it. This was simply a very sincere/serious discussion where i clarified something up which she understood.

And i suggest, in any situation to refrain from giving advices unless you know the whole story. You can't do a proper analysis of a situation without knowing it.

So please keep the advices for someone who needs them. I don't and didn't require them.

It's easy to get the girl out of my list, but it's hard to get her out of my soul. The point of this all-in with her, was to know whether i should invest my time in her or should i not. Not asking her to be my lover, but simply requesting to know what to do, if she was interested i would just play the usual game. So i'm happy i chose this way, i'm not going to waste a lot of time for something that won't have a "good end".

So after all these rejects i got it still hurts. And i still wonder if i will ever grow immune to it lol.

Now after being more detached and thinking clearly, i sent that mail to her which contains my thoughts. It's not the kind of e-mail with rants or hate-mail or a try to get her "back". It's simply ideas over it.

I'm going to wait 2 weeks before getting another "target" just so i'm not going to do a stupid emotional transfer.

Will call an ex later today, and see if i can get some sex as that may help.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
March 25 2010 11:17 GMT
#86
On March 25 2010 19:44 Pika Chu wrote:
Will call an ex later today, and see if i can get some sex as that may help.


... Eh?

Pika Chu, you are a complex person. I won't even try to make sense of your personality, since I'm pretty sure I won't like what I'll see.

I feel for your rejection, and I can relate to your "all-in"; I've done something similar in the past. Please get yourself back up to scratch.

Though I do believe that you might wanna try to get together with your ex again.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
March 25 2010 11:27 GMT
#87
Though I do believe that you might wanna try to get together with your ex again.


You're absolutely right. And i am afraid such an emotional transfer, especially now when wounds are open, might go on to my ex. And it's not something i'd want .
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
March 25 2010 11:30 GMT
#88
On March 25 2010 10:04 Rev0lution wrote:
STOP BEING A SUCH A GOD DAMN PUSSY.

Game lots of girls, it will hurt less and less.

Why do guys get attached to girls that they haven't even slept with?

THIS is typical needy guy bullshit, man the fuck up.


This so true btw.

It's reaaaally needy to become super attached to girls that you haven't even made out with.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
March 25 2010 22:14 GMT
#89
Jeez. Some pretty rough responses, imo. The guy just got owned on by a girl he must have liked a good amount (I say "good amount" because it was significant enough for you to come post on TL about it).

In my experience, getting rejected is pretty rough. Literally hearing a girl say something along the lines of "no, I don't like you like that," is just hard to hear.

I've been recently thinking of asking a friend-girl out myself, but I'm starting to lean towards no half because it could ruin the friendship and half because getting rejected by *her* would be pretty bad (you'd have to know her).

Good luck in the future dude!
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
March 26 2010 01:42 GMT
#90
Alright, maybe I didn't go into detail about girls but I'm glad SweetLemons expanded on it.

I think Pika Chu is a serious case of Below AFC. First of all you need to accept that you DID pour your heart onto a girl. Pouring your heart doesn't mean expressing your love.

It simply means that you expressed your feelings to her. Clearly you are the sensitive type, you describe this girl as if you knew her forever; when in fact you know shit about her.

A 10 page letter is psycho shit, don't send it or she will likely think your a stalker / call the cops.

My only advice:

Don't daydream about girls. This has happened to me back in high school and even early college. It makes you develop feelings that are NOT there.

Having strong feelings over someone you barely know is only allowed on romance movies, in real life we call this OBSESSION.

Daydreaming about girls and fantasizing about marrying them is clearly a sign that you are lacking basic self steem skills and missing a social life.

Work out, get a hobby, study harder, make friends and you will NOT have enough time to daydream about women.
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
March 26 2010 05:53 GMT
#91
On March 26 2010 07:14 Always wrote:
Jeez. Some pretty rough responses, imo. The guy just got owned on by a girl he must have liked a good amount (I say "good amount" because it was significant enough for you to come post on TL about it).

In my experience, getting rejected is pretty rough. Literally hearing a girl say something along the lines of "no, I don't like you like that," is just hard to hear.

I've been recently thinking of asking a friend-girl out myself, but I'm starting to lean towards no half because it could ruin the friendship and half because getting rejected by *her* would be pretty bad (you'd have to know her).

Good luck in the future dude!


In the end, these are just words from who knows who.

However, at least you tried Pika Chu. I knew a boy who liked a girl once. They were friends. Thinking back, I'm fairly sure the girl liked the boy "in that way" too. Apparently he grew to love her more and more with each passing day. But he never asked her out, even though the signs were there.

Next thing he knew, she'd left for another city to study Architecture. Then not long after, he heard she was engaged to be married to some other guy and was living in another country.

That's the way it is. You'll meet a lot of girls that you like a lot. In the end, all these things will end, whether it's because you never asked her out, or whether it's because your wife of 70 years dies of a heart attack. Ultimately, we all lose. You just need to work out how to live out your life despite these losses.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
March 26 2010 06:46 GMT
#92
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
JaimeR
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
148 Posts
March 26 2010 08:26 GMT
#93
On March 25 2010 08:21 Pika Chu wrote:
But please don't give me the usual crap about what women want because you red C&F and deangello and other dating experts. Because i have too and i've been to seminars and i've studied women psychology. And i eventually decided to drop it all and act natural. Which sometimes coincides with what they say, and sometimes like now simply is something different .


Are you serious? I find that hard to believe as if you had just followed his advice I guarantee you she would not have rejected you. In fact, his latest newsletter has a situation very similar to yours:

+ Show Spoiler +
Greetings,

I'm considering investing in your program, but I
have a question for you before I do. Essentially,
I'm no longer looking to hook up with women left
and right. In fact, I think I've met "the one,"
but I'm having trouble making her realize this.
I've been pursuing her for about five months
(during part of which time she was away at school,
but we kept in regular contact, at first through
e-mail and, later, over the phone), and I get the
sense that she's very guarded about relationships.
She's *very* goal oriented (which is one of the
many things I love about her, BTW), and therefore
very busy, and - I suspect - she's been burned in
the past, relationship wise. At any rate, on a
couple of occasions, it felt to me as if things
were moving forward, and then she backpedaled;
perhaps she "got spooked," and took a big step
back to protect herself. Most recently, we were
out for the first time since she finished school,
and - insofar as I was able to determine, I was
getting the green light all night: at a movie, I
slipped my arm around her and she leaned in,
resting her head on my shoulder; later, we were at
a club for a band, and when we were ready to
leave, she reached across the table and held my
hand for a while; on the way back to the car, it
was pretty chilly, and when she complained about
the chill, I stepped over and hugged her. She
responded by stepping into it: she pressed her
face hard into my shoulder, and stepped into full
body to body contact - hip to hip, shoulder to
shoulder and everything in between. When we got
back to her place, I moved to kiss her and she
shied away such that it would have been
*extremely* awkward for me to actually do so.

At any rate, we've gotten together since (in fact,
I offered to cook dinner for her, and she somehow
maneuvered it around such that I was *her* guest,
and she cooked for me) and we talked a while. As I
said above, I think she got a little spooked. She
specifically said that she thought the
relationship could've evolved into something
romantic, but that it hasn't, and she wasn't sure
why. At this moment, she says she doesn't believe
it will. We remain *very* close friends, but I
still believe she's the one, and I've told her
that I'm still going to pursue this, and she's
keen on still spending time together (for her, for
now, as close friends).

My question is this: do you believe your program
can aid me in turning her around on this? If so,
why?

Thanks,

B.


+ Show Spoiler +
OK, sit down for this.

Hold on to something tight, because I'm going
to yell at you for your own damn good...

YOU ARE TOTALLY MISSING WHAT'S GOING ON!

THIS WOMAN ACTUALLY LIKES YOU, AND YOU'RE
SCREWING IT ALL UP BY ACTING LIKE A NEEDY WUSS
BAG!

If you were closer, I'd slap you myself.

DUH!

Whew. Let me calm myself. As you know, I don't
usually get so worked up. That makes three
exclamation marks in one email, and I haven't even
started lambasting you proper yet. (What is
lambasting, anyway? And is that how you spell it?
It's such a great word. I really should look and
find out.)

OK, I'm calm.

NOW, let's have a little talk here...

The reason why this kind of situation bothers
me is at least twofold:

1) Because I've been in it myself about a
bazillion and a half times, and it sucks to be
screwing something up and not even realize that
you're doing it.

2) I can tell from your email that you actually
like this girl A LOT, and that she's probably a
fantastic woman... and I hate to see you working
so hard against yourself... and screwing this up
when it's right there in front of you for the
taking.

Before I tell you all the reasons why you most
DEFINITELY should invest in my Advanced Dating
Techniques program, let me give you a few pointers
that might help you STOP screwing this up in the
meantime.

OK, back to the basics.

Let's take this from the top...

At the very beginning of your email, you said
something that basically telegraphed EXACTLY what
was going on here...

You said "...I think I've met "the one," but
I'm having trouble making her realize this. I've
been pursuing her for about five months..."

You're having trouble making her REALIZE this?

You've been PURSUING her?

Do you assume that at some point within the
NEXT five months that she's going to wake up one
day and feel a powerful ATTRACTION for you because
you like to chase her around and tell her how you
feel about her?

Normally I'd make fun of you here, and tell you
that you don't get it... blah blah blah.

But for some reason I feel like I just have to
lay things out for you directly.

Look, man... the reason why she's telling you
that she "doesn't know why it hasn't evolved into
something romantic" is that she doesn't FEEL IT.

She doesn't FEEL IT.

Get it?

SHE DOESN'T FEEL IT!

She doesn't feel ATTRACTION for you.

And you can't CONVINCE her to feel it by
chasing her around and telling her how you "feel"
about her.

Attraction, as I always say, ISN'T A CHOICE.

You need to go and get yourself an IN-DEPTH
education on the topic of creating ATTRACTION.
Go read my new online eBook "Attraction Isn't A
Choice".

This book will take you "behind the scenes" and
show you how to communicate with women in a way
that TRIGGERS the attraction... instead of trying
to be a "nice guy" and CONVINCE her to feel it for
you.

You can download it right now, and be reading
it within a few minutes. Go download it here:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/AttractionBook

Now, you're acting like most guys who think things
like: "If she only knew how I felt about her,
she'd feel the same way" and "If I keep pursuing
her, she'll eventually see how much I love her"
etc.

Well guess what?

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, HOMEY.

Right now you are playing what is referred to
as a "losing game".

Think of it this way. If you stop on the way
home from work every day and buy a lottery ticket,
you'll win once in awhile. Hell, you might even be
lucky one day and win big.

But your chances SUCK.

You're probably going to lose a LOT more than
you win over time.

Like I said, you COULD win big. There is a
chance. But you probably won't. And I mean
probably with a BIG P.

I refer to the way that you're acting as "Being
a Wussy" (that's the technical term... made it up
myself).

When you act like a Wussy, you do things like:

-Pursue

-Cling

-Share "feelings"

-Act submissive

-Seek approval

-Pine away

This is WUSSY behavior.

It's distinctly FEMININE in nature.

When guys act like this, they're getting in
touch with their inner little girl (and she needs
a spanking in the worst way).

And are you ready for the WORST, WORST part?

When you act like this around a woman (and
ESPECIALLY a "goal oriented" woman who's probably
smart and powerful like yours) they CANNOT feel
the emotion of ATTRACTION towards you.

Women aren't attracted to Wussies.

This is a UNIVERSAL truth.

And by the way that you describe your
relationship with this woman, SHE REALLY WANTS TO
BE ATTRACTED TO YOU!

She's trying, man.

And she probably KNOWS that you'd be a great
guy to be in a relationship with... but she just
doesn't FEEL IT... so she holds back. I'm sure she
WISHES that she could be attracted to you. I'll
bet you money.

Look, you need to STOP acting like a nice
friend guy Wuss IMMEDIATELY if you want this to
turn into something.

You're probably beyond help with this
particular woman, but I'm going to give you a few
ideas JUST IN CASE...

1) Stop calling her all the time (if you do),
and stop spending so much time with her.

2) Start dating other women IMMEDIATELY, and
make sure she knows about it.

3) Stop being all lovey with her, and don't
tell her how you "feel about her" anymore. Stop it.

4) Accept that you will probably be friends
with her forever, and start acting that way.

5) Don't try to kiss her or be physical with
her at ALL anymore until you understand what you're
doing.

Remember, what you're doing ISN'T WORKING.

If you do these things that I've described, you
will probably have the best chance of turning this
around.

NOW, the next thing you need to do is what you
asked me about in your email... GET MY ADVANCED
DATING TECHNIQUES PROGRAM.

You need a new perspective on this entire
situation. And you need a new perspective on
women.

You're obviously a smart guy, and once you
begin to understand how ATTRACTION works for
women, you'll change how you behave COMPLETELY.

Total transformation.

And the best part is that you won't be changing
how you act and just "faking it". You'll change
how you act because you GET IT.

It's really fantastic to HELP a woman feel that
magical ATTRACTION for you that she REALLY WANTS
TO FEEL.

And it's also amazing to know exactly how to
get physical with a woman without having to deal
with the awkward "shy away from the kiss"
situation that you described in your email.

I guarantee that when you listen to and/or
watch my "Advanced Dating Techniques" program,
it will FOREVER CHANGE how you think about and
act around women. Period, end of story.

Here, let me give you the hard- sell...

I had to learn all of this stuff the hard way.
I've been right where you are many, many, MANY
times in my life. It sucks. I know it does.

The reason why my program will be good for you
is because it was good FOR ME FIRST. I teach what
I do.

And because I also believe that you should only
have to pay for something that you find value in,
I'll send it to you:

-In a plain package so your mom doesn't know
what's inside.

-For you to try risk free for a MONTH.

I'm betting that once you have it in your hot
little hands that I couldn't pry it away from you
with a crowbar.

I'm serious.

OK, enough of me trying to convince you of
something you already know. Go watch the newest
video preview clips and get it here:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/AdvancedSeries

Now repeat after me: I WILL NEVER ACT LIKE
A WUSSY AGAIN!

If you want to make your dating life a whole
lot better and easier, then stop and think about
your behavior... and resolve right now to stop
acting like a WUSS for the rest of your life.

Being "nice" and "accommodating" and
"understanding" is great for friendships and
social relationships, but it's HORRIBLE for
ATTRACTION.

An interesting, attractive woman doesn't want a
guy that she can push around. She doesn't want a
guy who does what she wants him to do. She doesn't
want a little boy that she can train and raise.

An interesting, attractive woman wants a MAN.

This doesn't make LOGICAL sense, I know. But
it's the truth. These submissive qualities will
only work in attracting a woman IF SHE LIKES
DRESSING UP IN LEATHER AND WHIPPING HER MAN... AND
CHARGING $400.00 AN HOUR!

And my guess is that this isn't the kind of
woman that you're looking for.

If you want to stop ACTING like a WUSSY you
need to eliminate your INNER WUSS for good and
build a rock-solid confidence level that is
NATURALLY attractive to women. So you also
need to take a look at my "Deep Inner Game" program.

This program will eliminate inner challenges
like insecurity, fear and anxiety that are holding
you back from TRUE success with women. And as long
as you have those kinds of fears you're gonna
continue acting like a needy wussbag.

So go take a look at some of the video clips
from this program here:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/DeepInnerGame

Now I've explained some of the important
qualities that you need to cultivate in yourself
if you want to attract women... and keep them
attracted. Now get out there and start working
on it.

...and if you're reading this right now and you
haven't yet downloaded your copy of my online
eBook "Double Your Dating", I have something to
tell you...

My eBook is the foundation for EVERYTHING that
I teach in these newsletters, my Advanced Dating
Techniques, and other programs.

And you need to read my Double Your Dating
ebook, because it contains a lot of valuable
material that sets the stage for everything else.
It's here, so go download it now:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/eBook

Like I said, if you're just starting out, my
ebooks and programs will show you things that
you've never seen or heard before. You'll
get a completely new perspective on what it
takes to be successful with women and dating.

If you're already successful, my programs
will make you BETTER. There are a lot of very
advanced concepts included... and you'll get
to hear me interview guys who are AMAZING
with women in my Advanced Series. In other
words, no matter where you are with women,
you'll improve.

I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

David D.
JaimeR
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
148 Posts
March 26 2010 08:26 GMT
#94
TLDR: NEVER tell a girl how you feel about her. Always let her be the one to share her feelings first.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 26 2010 08:56 GMT
#95
Unless you start using lubricant, yes.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
March 26 2010 17:33 GMT
#96
On March 26 2010 17:26 Jaime Raine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 08:21 Pika Chu wrote:
But please don't give me the usual crap about what women want because you red C&F and deangello and other dating experts. Because i have too and i've been to seminars and i've studied women psychology. And i eventually decided to drop it all and act natural. Which sometimes coincides with what they say, and sometimes like now simply is something different .


Are you serious? I find that hard to believe as if you had just followed his advice I guarantee you she would not have rejected you. In fact, his latest newsletter has a situation very similar to yours:

+ Show Spoiler +
Greetings,

I'm considering investing in your program, but I
have a question for you before I do. Essentially,
I'm no longer looking to hook up with women left
and right. In fact, I think I've met "the one,"
but I'm having trouble making her realize this.
I've been pursuing her for about five months
(during part of which time she was away at school,
but we kept in regular contact, at first through
e-mail and, later, over the phone), and I get the
sense that she's very guarded about relationships.
She's *very* goal oriented (which is one of the
many things I love about her, BTW), and therefore
very busy, and - I suspect - she's been burned in
the past, relationship wise. At any rate, on a
couple of occasions, it felt to me as if things
were moving forward, and then she backpedaled;
perhaps she "got spooked," and took a big step
back to protect herself. Most recently, we were
out for the first time since she finished school,
and - insofar as I was able to determine, I was
getting the green light all night: at a movie, I
slipped my arm around her and she leaned in,
resting her head on my shoulder; later, we were at
a club for a band, and when we were ready to
leave, she reached across the table and held my
hand for a while; on the way back to the car, it
was pretty chilly, and when she complained about
the chill, I stepped over and hugged her. She
responded by stepping into it: she pressed her
face hard into my shoulder, and stepped into full
body to body contact - hip to hip, shoulder to
shoulder and everything in between. When we got
back to her place, I moved to kiss her and she
shied away such that it would have been
*extremely* awkward for me to actually do so.

At any rate, we've gotten together since (in fact,
I offered to cook dinner for her, and she somehow
maneuvered it around such that I was *her* guest,
and she cooked for me) and we talked a while. As I
said above, I think she got a little spooked. She
specifically said that she thought the
relationship could've evolved into something
romantic, but that it hasn't, and she wasn't sure
why. At this moment, she says she doesn't believe
it will. We remain *very* close friends, but I
still believe she's the one, and I've told her
that I'm still going to pursue this, and she's
keen on still spending time together (for her, for
now, as close friends).

My question is this: do you believe your program
can aid me in turning her around on this? If so,
why?

Thanks,

B.


+ Show Spoiler +
OK, sit down for this.

Hold on to something tight, because I'm going
to yell at you for your own damn good...

YOU ARE TOTALLY MISSING WHAT'S GOING ON!

THIS WOMAN ACTUALLY LIKES YOU, AND YOU'RE
SCREWING IT ALL UP BY ACTING LIKE A NEEDY WUSS
BAG!

If you were closer, I'd slap you myself.

DUH!

Whew. Let me calm myself. As you know, I don't
usually get so worked up. That makes three
exclamation marks in one email, and I haven't even
started lambasting you proper yet. (What is
lambasting, anyway? And is that how you spell it?
It's such a great word. I really should look and
find out.)

OK, I'm calm.

NOW, let's have a little talk here...

The reason why this kind of situation bothers
me is at least twofold:

1) Because I've been in it myself about a
bazillion and a half times, and it sucks to be
screwing something up and not even realize that
you're doing it.

2) I can tell from your email that you actually
like this girl A LOT, and that she's probably a
fantastic woman... and I hate to see you working
so hard against yourself... and screwing this up
when it's right there in front of you for the
taking.

Before I tell you all the reasons why you most
DEFINITELY should invest in my Advanced Dating
Techniques program, let me give you a few pointers
that might help you STOP screwing this up in the
meantime.

OK, back to the basics.

Let's take this from the top...

At the very beginning of your email, you said
something that basically telegraphed EXACTLY what
was going on here...

You said "...I think I've met "the one," but
I'm having trouble making her realize this. I've
been pursuing her for about five months..."

You're having trouble making her REALIZE this?

You've been PURSUING her?

Do you assume that at some point within the
NEXT five months that she's going to wake up one
day and feel a powerful ATTRACTION for you because
you like to chase her around and tell her how you
feel about her?

Normally I'd make fun of you here, and tell you
that you don't get it... blah blah blah.

But for some reason I feel like I just have to
lay things out for you directly.

Look, man... the reason why she's telling you
that she "doesn't know why it hasn't evolved into
something romantic" is that she doesn't FEEL IT.

She doesn't FEEL IT.

Get it?

SHE DOESN'T FEEL IT!

She doesn't feel ATTRACTION for you.

And you can't CONVINCE her to feel it by
chasing her around and telling her how you "feel"
about her.

Attraction, as I always say, ISN'T A CHOICE.

You need to go and get yourself an IN-DEPTH
education on the topic of creating ATTRACTION.
Go read my new online eBook "Attraction Isn't A
Choice".

This book will take you "behind the scenes" and
show you how to communicate with women in a way
that TRIGGERS the attraction... instead of trying
to be a "nice guy" and CONVINCE her to feel it for
you.

You can download it right now, and be reading
it within a few minutes. Go download it here:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/AttractionBook

Now, you're acting like most guys who think things
like: "If she only knew how I felt about her,
she'd feel the same way" and "If I keep pursuing
her, she'll eventually see how much I love her"
etc.

Well guess what?

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, HOMEY.

Right now you are playing what is referred to
as a "losing game".

Think of it this way. If you stop on the way
home from work every day and buy a lottery ticket,
you'll win once in awhile. Hell, you might even be
lucky one day and win big.

But your chances SUCK.

You're probably going to lose a LOT more than
you win over time.

Like I said, you COULD win big. There is a
chance. But you probably won't. And I mean
probably with a BIG P.

I refer to the way that you're acting as "Being
a Wussy" (that's the technical term... made it up
myself).

When you act like a Wussy, you do things like:

-Pursue

-Cling

-Share "feelings"

-Act submissive

-Seek approval

-Pine away

This is WUSSY behavior.

It's distinctly FEMININE in nature.

When guys act like this, they're getting in
touch with their inner little girl (and she needs
a spanking in the worst way).

And are you ready for the WORST, WORST part?

When you act like this around a woman (and
ESPECIALLY a "goal oriented" woman who's probably
smart and powerful like yours) they CANNOT feel
the emotion of ATTRACTION towards you.

Women aren't attracted to Wussies.

This is a UNIVERSAL truth.

And by the way that you describe your
relationship with this woman, SHE REALLY WANTS TO
BE ATTRACTED TO YOU!

She's trying, man.

And she probably KNOWS that you'd be a great
guy to be in a relationship with... but she just
doesn't FEEL IT... so she holds back. I'm sure she
WISHES that she could be attracted to you. I'll
bet you money.

Look, you need to STOP acting like a nice
friend guy Wuss IMMEDIATELY if you want this to
turn into something.

You're probably beyond help with this
particular woman, but I'm going to give you a few
ideas JUST IN CASE...

1) Stop calling her all the time (if you do),
and stop spending so much time with her.

2) Start dating other women IMMEDIATELY, and
make sure she knows about it.

3) Stop being all lovey with her, and don't
tell her how you "feel about her" anymore. Stop it.

4) Accept that you will probably be friends
with her forever, and start acting that way.

5) Don't try to kiss her or be physical with
her at ALL anymore until you understand what you're
doing.

Remember, what you're doing ISN'T WORKING.

If you do these things that I've described, you
will probably have the best chance of turning this
around.

NOW, the next thing you need to do is what you
asked me about in your email... GET MY ADVANCED
DATING TECHNIQUES PROGRAM.

You need a new perspective on this entire
situation. And you need a new perspective on
women.

You're obviously a smart guy, and once you
begin to understand how ATTRACTION works for
women, you'll change how you behave COMPLETELY.

Total transformation.

And the best part is that you won't be changing
how you act and just "faking it". You'll change
how you act because you GET IT.

It's really fantastic to HELP a woman feel that
magical ATTRACTION for you that she REALLY WANTS
TO FEEL.

And it's also amazing to know exactly how to
get physical with a woman without having to deal
with the awkward "shy away from the kiss"
situation that you described in your email.

I guarantee that when you listen to and/or
watch my "Advanced Dating Techniques" program,
it will FOREVER CHANGE how you think about and
act around women. Period, end of story.

Here, let me give you the hard- sell...

I had to learn all of this stuff the hard way.
I've been right where you are many, many, MANY
times in my life. It sucks. I know it does.

The reason why my program will be good for you
is because it was good FOR ME FIRST. I teach what
I do.

And because I also believe that you should only
have to pay for something that you find value in,
I'll send it to you:

-In a plain package so your mom doesn't know
what's inside.

-For you to try risk free for a MONTH.

I'm betting that once you have it in your hot
little hands that I couldn't pry it away from you
with a crowbar.

I'm serious.

OK, enough of me trying to convince you of
something you already know. Go watch the newest
video preview clips and get it here:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/AdvancedSeries

Now repeat after me: I WILL NEVER ACT LIKE
A WUSSY AGAIN!

If you want to make your dating life a whole
lot better and easier, then stop and think about
your behavior... and resolve right now to stop
acting like a WUSS for the rest of your life.

Being "nice" and "accommodating" and
"understanding" is great for friendships and
social relationships, but it's HORRIBLE for
ATTRACTION.

An interesting, attractive woman doesn't want a
guy that she can push around. She doesn't want a
guy who does what she wants him to do. She doesn't
want a little boy that she can train and raise.

An interesting, attractive woman wants a MAN.

This doesn't make LOGICAL sense, I know. But
it's the truth. These submissive qualities will
only work in attracting a woman IF SHE LIKES
DRESSING UP IN LEATHER AND WHIPPING HER MAN... AND
CHARGING $400.00 AN HOUR!

And my guess is that this isn't the kind of
woman that you're looking for.

If you want to stop ACTING like a WUSSY you
need to eliminate your INNER WUSS for good and
build a rock-solid confidence level that is
NATURALLY attractive to women. So you also
need to take a look at my "Deep Inner Game" program.

This program will eliminate inner challenges
like insecurity, fear and anxiety that are holding
you back from TRUE success with women. And as long
as you have those kinds of fears you're gonna
continue acting like a needy wussbag.

So go take a look at some of the video clips
from this program here:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/DeepInnerGame

Now I've explained some of the important
qualities that you need to cultivate in yourself
if you want to attract women... and keep them
attracted. Now get out there and start working
on it.

...and if you're reading this right now and you
haven't yet downloaded your copy of my online
eBook "Double Your Dating", I have something to
tell you...

My eBook is the foundation for EVERYTHING that
I teach in these newsletters, my Advanced Dating
Techniques, and other programs.

And you need to read my Double Your Dating
ebook, because it contains a lot of valuable
material that sets the stage for everything else.
It's here, so go download it now:

http://www.DoubleYourDates.com/eBook

Like I said, if you're just starting out, my
ebooks and programs will show you things that
you've never seen or heard before. You'll
get a completely new perspective on what it
takes to be successful with women and dating.

If you're already successful, my programs
will make you BETTER. There are a lot of very
advanced concepts included... and you'll get
to hear me interview guys who are AMAZING
with women in my Advanced Series. In other
words, no matter where you are with women,
you'll improve.

I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

David D.


David D is still doing all this stuff? I had no idea.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 17:39:06
March 26 2010 17:34 GMT
#97
On March 25 2010 17:29 krndandaman wrote:
When I broke up with my first girlfriend it hurt so much.

I was head over heels for her and she was for me too until she lost that feeling.
During the period where I realized the love wasn't mutual was when it hurt the most.

It's been a year now and I'm only somewhat recovered. I'm not attracted to her anymore and would never want her back, yet I have this feeling that I have hole in my heart that can't be filled yet.

I don't really fall for a girl these days and I miss that. I've only been flirting around and hooking up, but the good feelings are only temporary. Your first heartbreak is hard, it'll take some time to get through. :/


The bold is a key difference between the two situations. You were actually with her, which makes your pain legit. No guy, no matter how hardened he is, or how big of a player he is, is immediately over their first love, or any love. It's especially hard when it's not a mutual thing, and you realize that she never really cared for you in the way she claimed she did, even though you still do. It's even worse when you find out that she went back to the guy she was with before you, and it's likely that her entire story was bullshit on why she broke up with you. But you know what helps you get over it? Other women, having a life... because eventually you realize that it just wasn't "meant to be" and you move on with life.

On March 26 2010 10:42 Rev0lution wrote:
Alright, maybe I didn't go into detail about girls but I'm glad SweetLemons expanded on it.

I think Pika Chu is a serious case of Below AFC. First of all you need to accept that you DID pour your heart onto a girl. Pouring your heart doesn't mean expressing your love.

It simply means that you expressed your feelings to her. Clearly you are the sensitive type, you describe this girl as if you knew her forever; when in fact you know shit about her.

A 10 page letter is psycho shit, don't send it or she will likely think your a stalker / call the cops.

My only advice:

Don't daydream about girls. This has happened to me back in high school and even early college. It makes you develop feelings that are NOT there.

Having strong feelings over someone you barely know is only allowed on romance movies, in real life we call this OBSESSION.

Daydreaming about girls and fantasizing about marrying them is clearly a sign that you are lacking basic self steem skills and missing a social life.

Work out, get a hobby, study harder, make friends and you will NOT have enough time to daydream about women.


That is the truth.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
March 26 2010 21:26 GMT
#98
I know it's been said, but saying it again can't hurt. Play more SC
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 26 2010 23:08 GMT
#99
On March 25 2010 19:44 Pika Chu wrote:
I'm feeling ok now. Some sleep fixed it.

It's amazing how many people came here to give me their advices even when i specified i don't need any. I only asked a question and all i wanted maybe was people to read and listen to me. Simple as it is i don't need advices, i know what i've done wrong and most of your advices are standard bullcrap to be honest.


lol

enjoy your heartache i guess. maybe if you would pay attention to what your betters are trying to tell you in this thread you can avoid it in the future ^_^

i doubt it though you seem pretty intent on staying your retarded course. why are you so proud? certainly doesn't seem justified given the situation
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
rezaJUICE
Profile Joined March 2010
Iran15 Posts
March 26 2010 23:09 GMT
#100
it hurts dawg..it hurts deep down i feel you son
Dawg make dat cake son
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