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On March 25 2010 07:59 Pika Chu wrote:So did anyone figured the importance of this for me? I broke me 1337 POSTS because of this damn thing. So it's quite important... DAMN MY 1337 POST COUNT, ah crap it's gone.. stupid women destroy it . Again thanks for reading, you've no clue that it actually makes me feel better to see some comments here. Reincremate. I know that mate, it was more of a pissed rethoric question . Yes Horiz0n it is so. Jibba.. it all went so fast, actually slow but still fast? Wtf, paradox. nosliw Yep, though i'm not afraid of the transition, i've done it in the past. I really hate it when things go out of my control mechanix I don't think this was really love, but would've eventually led to it yes. love1another Got a guide on how to make a bloody pika chu costume? I just wrote her a huge, like HUGE e-mail. Probably has like 10 pages of thoughts that i wanted to share with her but didn't get to. I wrote it more for myself. Just wanted to get my thoughts on paper. It's all the naked truth about my feelings and how everything evolved inside. It's about my weaknesses and hers, about her good parts and bad parts. What do you guys say, should i send it to her or should i not?
ROFL YES! This is a SURE-FIRE tactic to win her heart over.
Dude, as lame as MM kids are, you should read the Mystery Method, or at least The Game. You don't have to be a fag that goes out sarging just to get laid (because a real man knows it's quality, not quantity), but you would at least have a better grasp of wtf to do with women.
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Rev0lution, you must try hard alot to not look like a pussy.
I mean, every single piece advice that you gave this man seemed to revolve around that single concept; atleast give good advice seriously and stop trying to look like some Albanian baller.
I'd rather look like a pussy than a dumbass.
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On March 25 2010 08:24 Pika Chu wrote: Well Steve, she's a bit anxious and it's hard to get her to come on a date. She always says YEEEES then 2h before she calls and gives some random excuse.
So i had to chose between investing a shitload of time, and waiting after her ass or simply going all-in like that and finishing it, one way or another. I chose the second, sure it will hurt me for a while but i still think it's better this way.
She did that because she wasn't interested. Girls that flake that often are not interested... most guys get that idea.
On March 25 2010 08:40 Pika Chu wrote: It's obviously not common sense.
Snivelling little trick? You lost me here. About the blog? What's the matter with it, i wrote after anyhow. And it's not like she knows or will ever find out.
A trick is American slang. Hard to describe. Urbandictionary it.
On March 25 2010 10:31 evanthebouncy! wrote:TOO QUICK!! u know her 2 years but really know her 2 weeks! gotta be slower. I made my mistake once, too quick, too quick to gobble up all the feelings, it's too much too soon and women too weak to take it. just sit back and be patient good luck.
Not too quick. NEVER FUCKING THERE. She opened up to him as a close friend, not as a lover. That should have been painfully obvious. If you aren't in an already established relationship with a girl and she starts opening up and getting all emotional, it's because she feels safe around you. It's because she doesn't think you want to get into her pants. It's because she thinks you think of her exactly what she thinks of you: FRIENDS.
GAH, how do guys not get this? (Not to anyone in particular) Then these nice guys come back with some bullshit lines about how the girl is an icy bitch, and that eventually they will find some girl, and the same bullshit keeps happening over and over while they use the same tactics and never get anything (and I don't just mean sex). Then they sit around and whine about how no one likes/loves them and all these guys have all these girls, and they don't know how they do it, and they wish they could be them... but when one of those guys takes the time out of his day because he was there before, and he legitimately wants to help (like a few guys in this blog already), they tell them that THEY ARE WRONG! They say that they were in the right when they were so obviously in the wrong! It's unbelievable.
On March 25 2010 12:32 RunningThrough wrote: Rev0lution, you must try hard alot to not look like a pussy.
I mean, every single piece advice that you gave this man seemed to revolve around that single concept; atleast give good advice seriously and stop trying to look like some Albanian baller.
I'd rather look like a pussy than a dumbass.
Then you'll never get any pussy. You can run your mouth all you want here about how you do get laid if you want, but no one is going to buy it, because most guys that talk bullshit about all the women they get are fucking liars anyway (the only guy I have seen that consistently pulls women in all the fucking time, and is legitimately in triple digits with FINE women, never admits to the amount of women he sleeps with). I don't get loads of women by any stretch of the imagination, but ffs, at least I'm not a huge tool when it comes to talking to women. At the VERY LEAST, they enjoy my company and find me funny, even if I don't have sex with them (most of the time I don't make things sexual so I don't get any, but whatever this isn't about me). Rev0 is absolutely right. When you disagree, it sounds to me like a bunch of frustrated virgins and chumps are running their mouths about getting women (which, btw, I think it is absolutely fine if someone is a virgin, but they clearly have no room to talk about how to get women. I was a virgin until 2 months before my 21st birthday, and I'm fine with that. Good friends of mine were virgins until they were 25+... doesn't matter).
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On March 25 2010 11:32 OpticalShot wrote: Even if you're seeing signs, and EVEN if the girl has something going for you, I personally think it's never safe to spill it all out on a single occasion. It's like drawing a two-pair on the flop and going all-in without knowing your opponent has a open-ended straight or a flush draw... k bad analogy, but you get the point.
I think it would have worked out better if you threw signs yourself, little by little. Yeah a casual dinner date, movies, sports, or anything you two like in common - these would have been nice, and as long as you keep your emotional cool it doesn't have to be so obvious. You could have thrown an occasional "you look fabulous today" or "I like your new haircut" you know, stuff like that! Then from there you can naturally build up... well that's the approach I take with the girl(s) that I really like. If I don't give a damn, I'd just play along whatever happens.
At the situation now, I think it's important to re-establish the friendship first, and take it a step at a time. Although the girl said no, that's probably because you threw too much at her, at once. Apologize for putting her on the spot so suddenly, start over, and take it a step at a time.
Don't apologize too early, if at all. Most likely, you've completely destroyed the relationship you've built with her, at least for the time being. If you want to be friendly with her again, it's going to take a very long time. I did the same thing once when I was a lot younger (about 16). I poured my heart out to a girl and she freaked out. Today, we're pretty good friends, and we actually talk about just about anything (she's actually one of the people I go to when I need someone to be real with me about a situation), but that didn't start happening until about four years later (being that close, the friendship picked back up sometime about a year later).
As far as you're concerned, it never happened. Tomorrow, you'll go into work and talk about how lovely/crappy the weather is, and see what's on the plate for the day. If things get too heavily awkward say something like "look, I know there is a bit of tension due to what I said the other day, but if we're going to continue to work together we're going to have to move on." Then if she starts to talk about it say something like "I understand that you would want to discuss this, and I'm fine with that, but I really don't think now is the time or place to do that... let's talk about this on the phone after work" or something similar.
In all honesty, what you did is a pretty major fuck up in my book.
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Then you'll never get any pussy. You can run your mouth all you want here about how you do get laid if you want, but no one is going to buy it, because most guys that talk bullshit about all the women they get are fucking liars anyway (the only guy I have seen that consistently pulls women in all the fucking time, and is legitimately in triple digits with FINE women, never admits to the amount of women he sleeps with). I don't get loads of women by any stretch of the imagination, but ffs, at least I'm not a huge tool when it comes to talking to women. At the VERY LEAST, they enjoy my company and find me funny, even if I don't have sex with them (most of the time I don't make things sexual so I don't get any, but whatever this isn't about me). Rev0 is absolutely right. When you disagree, it sounds to me like a bunch of frustrated virgins and chumps are running their mouths about getting women (which, btw, I think it is absolutely fine if someone is a virgin, but they clearly have no room to talk about how to get women. I was a virgin until 2 months before my 21st birthday, and I'm fine with that. Good friends of mine were virgins until they were 25+... doesn't matter).]
You do realize that your post there is completely null because not only was I criticizing Rev0lution for doing what you just said that "virgins tend to do." Or whichever, but he was also in fact, doing what you just said, but I also gave no advice on how to get woman whatsoever. If you are saying to sleep alot of woman, then you aren't giving advice on how to get them are you? You're just saying to get them. Period.
Plus you don't even know anything about me, I'm a random faceless guy with about 2 posts on TL.net over the internet. Stop being presumptuous, there's alot of paths to getting stuff done but I don't believe Rev0lution's advice is right, especially when Pika Chu isn't looking to sleep with tons of woman anyways.
It's kind of funny that you have opinions because people like you shouldn't be allowed to have them.
Edit: We also may have just interpreted eachother's posts wrong, like I said, I was critisizing Rev0lution for telling Pika Chu to stop looking like a pussy and to sleep with tons of woman, and then somehow you just.. Thought I wrote that or something? I don't know, your entire post to me has to relevance to myself.
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On March 25 2010 12:53 RunningThrough wrote:Show nested quote + Then you'll never get any pussy. You can run your mouth all you want here about how you do get laid if you want, but no one is going to buy it, because most guys that talk bullshit about all the women they get are fucking liars anyway (the only guy I have seen that consistently pulls women in all the fucking time, and is legitimately in triple digits with FINE women, never admits to the amount of women he sleeps with). I don't get loads of women by any stretch of the imagination, but ffs, at least I'm not a huge tool when it comes to talking to women. At the VERY LEAST, they enjoy my company and find me funny, even if I don't have sex with them (most of the time I don't make things sexual so I don't get any, but whatever this isn't about me). Rev0 is absolutely right. When you disagree, it sounds to me like a bunch of frustrated virgins and chumps are running their mouths about getting women (which, btw, I think it is absolutely fine if someone is a virgin, but they clearly have no room to talk about how to get women. I was a virgin until 2 months before my 21st birthday, and I'm fine with that. Good friends of mine were virgins until they were 25+... doesn't matter).]
You do realize that your post there is completely null because not only was I criticizing Rev0lution for doing what you just said that "virgins tend to do." Or whichever, but he was also in fact, doing what you just said, but I also gave no advice on how to get woman whatsoever. If you are saying to sleep alot of woman, then you aren't giving advice on how to get them are you? You're just saying to get them. Period. Plus you don't even know anything about me, I'm a random faceless guy with about 2 posts on TL.net over the internet. Stop being presumptuous, there's alot of paths to getting stuff done but I don't believe Rev0lution's advice is right, especially when Pika Chu isn't looking to sleep with tons of woman anyways. It's kind of funny that you have opinions because people like you shouldn't be allowed to have them.
No, he said to have options. You need to have options. Pouring your soul into one girl is a fool's game. That's what I was focusing on, and I assumed that's what you were focusing on. Judging by Rev0's mindset, he likely has approaches that are similar to those I know to be successful with women (which is to not treat them like they're something to be sought after, and to turn the game around and make them think that YOU are the catch... which, oddly enough, is exactly what he said, he just didn't go into great detail on it). Virgins tend to pour their heart and soul out to a girl because they don't know any better. They've never seen what actually works (as evidenced by the fact that they're virgins).
Yes, there are many ways to approach dating life (or game, whatever you want to call it), and be successful at it... but having one-itis (i.e. intense feelings for a girl you'll never get) is a fool's game. Pouring your heart and soul into a girl you're not already in an established relationship is more of the same. She has to EARN that from you. Guys that give it away freely are chumps, and get walked on all the time. I see it happen all the time. It used to happen to me all the time. I may not have sex every night, or even every week, but at least I don't get walked all over by some bitch that's gives it up to other guys that don't do shit for her, while I break my back trying to please her. Fuck that. Guys that are successful with women understand this. And by successful, yes, I mean they have sex with women. I also mean that they have close female friends that they don't have sex with, that they have relationships that can last long periods of time... I mean that they have women in their lives, in general. Even if you aren't that gaping vag that pours his heart out to all the women he's interested in, you have to know someone who is... take a look at how many women he is friends with, I'm willing to bet it isn't a very high number.
Finally, with your ten post count, you probably should watch how you post. While I may not be TL's most beloved member (and personally couldn't give a fuck about what you say regarding me because your opinion about me means nothing, for the same reason that my opinion about you means nothing to you), TL admins are generally not too kind to people who flame veteran members... that's just a general tip to help you stay here at TL longer.
To your edit: I think that could be the case, which is why I didn't fly off the handle at you. It looked to me like you were saying it was ok to be a pussy, and pour your hear out to women like the OP did. Which is wrong. Really, the only thing directed at you was the first sentence, because I had interpreted what you said to be that, and you won't get laid doing that...you won't have a healthy relationship doing that... you'll only be lonely as hell doing that (I've been there, I KNOW). I quote people in seemingly random ways, but there's always a connection in my head, which can often be hard to see for other people...
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On March 25 2010 06:09 Pika Chu wrote: I hate blogs, i never thought I'll make one, here or anywhere. I simply need to write this, since i don't feel like talking with anyone known.
So i just got a NO from a girl i really liked. It's strange, we are colleagues and were so at this master for almost 2 years now. I've always found her interesting and a nice company. I started really liking her a couple of weeks ago. It's maybe because I've found her "human nature" her sensitivity at that point. She simply opened up on me and i tend to like sensitive persons, people who can let me read them, people that are alive, that are human. Hard to explain this properly but it doesn't matter.
So i tried to tell her my feelings, just being direct and sincere. Today i finally had that occasion. I told her, went directly all-in since i liked her... in a profound way, almost getting in love with her. She looked at me amazed while i continued with my speech. She was "oh my god..." and after i told her what i wanted (which is never enough, i would've need 2 days to say everything) i asked her to be sincere about me and tell me if she's interested or not, and she finally told me she's not interested.
I was expecting this, even though she gave me a lot of "interest" signs. Didn't think it will hurt this much, i prepared myself for it... but no matter it still hurts.
I've been in this situation many times. I'm used to it, i don't want any "time will heal, it will pass, etc". And even after happening for so many times, it still hurts.
I would expect everytime this happens you get less sensitive on it and finally you will be immune to it. It will simply not hurt any longer.
So what do you guys think? Will stuff like these always hurt no matter how many you experience and suffer for?
Ok so.. Your main issues are in bold.. I would say I'm pretty good with the ladies even tho I'm currently tied down at the moment and 100% faithful. Issue #1 You've started being into her in the last few weeks...
A few weeks is not enough time to "love" someone. If you did have a chance with this girl, you scared her away by droppin the L bomb before you got a kiss or anything slightly sensual or close and intimate.... NEVER DROP THE L BOMB. I've been dating my girlfriend for close to three months now, and I'm just starting to get the point where I feel like I may love her. Three weeks really isn't even enough time to know if you "like" someone. Like, Lust, and Love are 3 completly different things. Issue#2 Its an issue that your wondering why she was amazed
If my girlfriend would have told me she loved me a month or two into our relationship, I would have pulled the reins and probably left her. Thats too much commitment in a little amount of time. Not enough time has passed for you to really get to know this girl. When you do things like this, showing wayyyy too much emotion for the amount of time thats passed, it makes you seem needy and dependent. I am guessing you really dont have that much experience with women? Issue #3Sometimes women show interest for your benefit and/or they like the attention without wanting more.
Don't be insulted by this please I dont mean to be. But sometimes when guys arn't the best looking or when women can tell the guy is a total nerd and totally hopeless with women in general, they will flirt, but not to get your hopes up for getting them. More to help YOU become more confident with women.
My gf has this nerdy fat dude friend she works with that she flirts with and he flirts with her, and I could care less.. This guy is a total "dweeb" overweight, always says really wierd comments, totally not a socially accepted person. We've talked about it and she told me she does it to help him out. He's even told her he liked her which I thought was hilarious. But she put things on the table for him and explained hes not her type blah blah blah... But she did it to help build his confidence with women. Apparently hes hitting on another co-worker too (once again lol, if you guys only knew) but if she hadn't flirted with him a bit, maybe he never would of had the confidence to talk to this other chick u know?
Bottom line, sometimes a girl will flirt back or act interested for your benefit, either they dont want to shoot you down so they just go along with it, or they're doing it to build you up a bit.
Thats my two sence, I hope you don't take any of it the wrong way. But I can tell just by some of the things your saying, you dont have the best luck with women. Try and take this advice without being upset, but you cant get so attached to quickly.
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To your edit: I think that could be the case, which is why I didn't fly off the handle at you. It looked to me like you were saying it was ok to be a pussy, and pour your hear out to women like the OP did. Which is wrong. Really, the only thing directed at you was the first sentence, because I had interpreted what you said to be that, and you won't get laid doing that...you won't have a healthy relationship doing that... you'll only be lonely as hell doing that (I've been there, I KNOW). I quote people in seemingly random ways, but there's always a connection in my head, which can often be hard to see for other people...
Well now that you clarified I see that it was a misunderstanding. So naturally, I'm sorry.
And concerning veteran members and the staff, I understand that and it's logical. But I'm just myself and normally don't act any other way; but on the other hand I'm not a jerk without a reason etc. Just some insight.
Unfortunately the reason for me being a douche this time was just a misunderstanding. So again, I'm sorry.
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On March 25 2010 12:28 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: Dude, as lame as MM kids are, you should read the Mystery Method, or at least The Game.
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Women = SC. If you read a book about you aren't suddenly genius at sc. You improve little by little game after game. Learn from your mistakes, refine it little by little. If you're bad at something, you do it over and over until you're good at it. You take specific advice from the pros and do what works for you. There is no guide where if you read it you'll be like "ohhh" and suddenly start winning every game you play. You don't take a guide so seriously that you're worried if you are doing it and not even having fun playing SC. There are no rules to limit what you can do inside the game, you try to throw everything you can at the opponent to win. There are NO rules you don't make for yourself. You will not win every game. If you lose a game, it is not your opponents fault, it is your fault. Identify it, fix it, and do it. You might not even win most games at first. Eventually, you will play a game that matters. Every game you have played before that one has just been practice so you can win when you really need it. Don't stop playing. It might not be fun at times, but don't stop playing. If you stop having fun take a step back and reevaluate what your goal is and whether its realistic or not, but don't stop playing. gl hf brother
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On March 25 2010 12:32 RunningThrough wrote: Rev0lution, you must try hard alot to not look like a pussy.
I mean, every single piece advice that you gave this man seemed to revolve around that single concept; atleast give good advice seriously and stop trying to look like some Albanian baller.
I'd rather look like a pussy than a dumbass. haha dude his advice good and straight from the heart
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On March 25 2010 12:32 RunningThrough wrote: Rev0lution, you must try hard alot to not look like a pussy.
I mean, every single piece advice that you gave this man seemed to revolve around that single concept; atleast give good advice seriously and stop trying to look like some Albanian baller.
I'd rather look like a pussy than a dumbass. oh my fucking god lol made me irl
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It can't be helped.
Get over it already
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On March 25 2010 13:38 KurtistheTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 12:28 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: Dude, as lame as MM kids are, you should read the Mystery Method, or at least The Game.
..!? NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOWomen = SC. If you read a book about you aren't suddenly genius at sc. You improve little by little game after game. Learn from your mistakes, refine it little by little. If you're bad at something, you do it over and over until you're good at it. You take specific advice from the pros and do what works for you. There is no guide where if you read it you'll be like "ohhh" and suddenly start winning every game you play. You don't take a guide so seriously that you're worried if you are doing it and not even having fun playing SC. There are no rules to limit what you can do inside the game, you try to throw everything you can at the opponent to win. There are NO rules you don't make for yourself. You will not win every game. If you lose a game, it is not your opponents fault, it is your fault. Identify it, fix it, and do it. You might not even win most games at first. Eventually, you will play a game that matters. Every game you have played before that one has just been practice so you can win when you really need it. Don't stop playing. It might not be fun at times, but don't stop playing. If you stop having fun take a step back and reevaluate what your goal is and whether its realistic or not, but don't stop playing. gl hf brother
Dude, holy shit, quote the whole thing: as lame as MM kids are, you should read the Mystery Method, or at least The Game. You don't have to be a fag that goes out sarging just to get laid (because a real man knows it's quality, not quantity), but you would at least have a better grasp of wtf to do with women. (The main point in the post, in my mind, was that.)
When you're starting from the completely fucking hopeless, I love every woman who shows the slightest bit of affection towards me, you need to at least get some kind of understanding on women. He's clearly not listening to the advice here (which is pretty much verbatim out of those books by a lot of people). I even said not to use MM and sarge like a fag, and you tell him no and go on to post like I said "Learn and master MM." What those books do for you is make you go "OH! I see WHY I was wrong. Women aren't attracted to pansy fucks like I was being, they're attracted to MEN." If you're bad at something, you don't keep doing the SAME thing over and over, you try to change it up and see what works and what doesn't, right? But when you only know how to suck, you need to look somewhere for advice. Which leads you to alt.fast.seduction and the MM and so on.
I mean, I completely agree with what you said, but I hate being quoted out of context like that.
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oh, cool. you're right then. @op: don't follow it like a bible
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Girl threads.
Where everyone on the internet suddenly becomes an expert on women.
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no, sometimes it not hurt
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On March 25 2010 14:05 koreasilver wrote: Planet Earth
Where everyone in the world suddenly becomes an expert on women. I see it more along these lines.
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On March 25 2010 10:04 Rev0lution wrote: STOP BEING A SUCH A GOD DAMN PUSSY.
Game lots of girls, it will hurt less and less.
Why do guys get attached to girls that they haven't even slept with?
THIS is typical needy guy bullshit, man the fuck up. It's funny, I don't think I've ever met a confident, balanced individual who desperately tries to come across as some sort of badass playboy beast of a man online.
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Dude.
As cliche as it sounds? Realize that you have greater things at work and accomplishments to achieve. Set a goal or two. Something to develop your own character and self.
I learned a lot just saying "I want to be D+ on ICCUP instead of never achieving that and wasting time thinking about girls."
So if you want to do something just do it; don't let anyone stop you.
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Three words I wish I would have taken seriously years ago:
Cut your losses.
She's not gonna change her mind, bro. Plenty of fish in the sea, though no one ever realizes that when they're in the situation themselves. We understand.
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