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I've quit this game uncountable times, but somehow I always come back. I think its all the friends that i've made over the years, and the hunger of my competitive spirit. I've had a lot a LOT of fun; but the last couple years have been the best. I improved an incredible amount thanks to my coach and friend yosh. I played a ton of games, and with each one I would fill the holes in my game.
People who know me know that im a christian, but I might not always have acted like it. You see, this game always seems to distract me from whats really important. Some people can play the game casually, not everyday, just an hour here and there; but thats not the case with me.. I guess for me its always been all or nothing. Its been my kryptonite, its hurt my relationship with God. Just like a relationship with a friend a relationship with God only grows and is sustained by spending time with him. Each time I get back into this game I backslide; Sure it happens gradually, but next thing you know im not praying anymore, im not studying Gods word, and im falling into other sins again such as pornography.
I've quit this game many times for this reason, but I always get tempted back. "oh I can just play casually like 1 game here or 1 game there." That never worked. I REALLY don't want to quit, I love this game and all of the people. But deep down God is telling me that this is what I need to do, and im going to obey. I won't pick-up SC2, I have the beta and it is highly addicting as well..
My last games will be in the swansong tour, I think I play Goody in a week or something and if I win that then I play IdrA in the ro4.
I know that there aren't many Christians on TL, but im praying that there are a few who can relate with me. And im sure lots of people will have negative things to say, but please refrain; this is what I believe to be the right choice.
 
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wow...just wow..dont let the game control u man!
p/s u can gimme your sc2beta key if u don wan it 
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I accept your christian choice, but I cannot accept you leaving your beta unused. That's just cruel to those who don't have one 
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Ranged, I've known you for quite a while. Despite how some people used to say you were bad I never thought so (because I was fucking terrible as well and still am rofl). Gonna miss you man. It was nice meeting you irl.
+ Show Spoiler +YOU HAVE A SC2 BETA . . . =_=
By the way, I still owe you pants for the LAN.
Good luck in whatever you do bro.
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On February 23 2010 15:56 RaNgeD wrote:I know that there aren't many Christians on TL, but im praying that there are a few who can relate with me. And im sure lots of people will have negative things to say, but please refrain; this is what I believe to be the right choice.
As an Objectivist who detests irrational and delusional religious people on principle, I can only give you the advice I would rationally give to anyone: Simply do what makes you happy.
While you, being religious, would disagree with what I'm about to say, I will say it anyways. The meaning of life is to be happy and to pursue happiness. While it can be seen as a shame that you feel BW interferes with your ability to deride happiness from other sources, it will improve your life if you simply accept that it isn't exactly what you want out of life. Don't quit with the idea that you're giving up, quit with the idea that speed bumps are a part of life and there really is no destination. Simply the enjoyment of going for a ride.
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You get closer to God by doing the things you love.
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On February 23 2010 16:04 Zilver wrote:but I cannot accept you leaving your beta unused. That's just cruel to those who don't have one
I have to agree - its pretty unchristian to not use what others want so much. Its like throwing away a hamburger into oblivion in sub-saraha africa.
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Hello man. You can be Christian even tho you play games and don't pray all the time.
It's enough that you believe, right?
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My key was from Yosh, I won't give it away because he may have another friend that he'd like to give it to, or maybe he'd like to keep it himself.
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On February 23 2010 16:07 Jazriel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 15:56 RaNgeD wrote:I know that there aren't many Christians on TL, but im praying that there are a few who can relate with me. And im sure lots of people will have negative things to say, but please refrain; this is what I believe to be the right choice. Simply do what makes you happy.
this
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This strikes me as profoundly sad. I suppose that's something negative to say.
Still, if you feel that this decision will help you achieve a fulfilling and happy life (here on this earth), then it is likely a good decision. All the best.
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you can be christian and play sc. if you exercise self-control, you can prevent yourself from spending too much time on games.
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On February 23 2010 16:22 Piste wrote:
Hello man. You can be Christian even tho you play games and don't pray all the time.
It's enough that you believe, right?
You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. (James 2:19)
Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Obeying the demands of the Holy Spirit and being willing to be to go and to do his will are also very important. When I know what is right, and I don't do it, and when I know what is wrong, and I still do it, I sin. The only way for me to escape my sinful nature is to spend time in prayer with God, and by reading his word (the bible). That's not possible when im spending ALL of my free time on BW. And many well say "yes well just play a little bit." I've already tried that, so now I need to cut if off completely.
Hope this helps..
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On February 23 2010 16:33 RaNgeD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 16:22 Piste wrote:
Hello man. You can be Christian even tho you play games and don't pray all the time.
It's enough that you believe, right? You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. (James 2:19) Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Obeying the demands of the Holy Spirit and being willing to be to go and to do his will are also very important. When I know what is right, and I don't do it, and when I know what is wrong, and I still do it, I sin. The only way for me to escape my sinful nature is to spend time in prayer with God, and by reading his word (the bible). That's not possible when im spending ALL of my free time on BW. And many well say "yes well just play a little bit." I've already tried that, so now I need to cut if off completely. Hope this helps..
God doesn't want you spending all your time reading the bible and repenting; he wants you to go out and do good deeds.
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
i'll give you $100 for your beta
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On February 23 2010 16:39 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i'll give you $100 for your beta
Sorry, like I said, my friend gave it to me so im giving it back; he may have another friend that he wants to give it to - not for sale, sorry.
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I believe that you can't go wrong with allowing yourself to pursue something you're passionate about. God can even help you achieve your goals in the world of SC and SC2.
Maybe take a break and think about it before you abandon it completely.
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As a Christian I respect your choice. Everyone has a weakness or something that can take you away from God. Only you know what yours is.
Romans 14:14 But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
Romans 14:5-8 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord.
I'm actually quite jealous/admiring of your willpower to do this thing for the Lord. I wish you good luck, and may God be with you!
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On February 23 2010 16:30 29 fps wrote:
you can be christian and play sc. if you exercise self-control, you can prevent yourself from spending too much time on games.
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As an Objectivist who detests irrational and delusional religious people on principle...
The meaning of life is to be happy and to pursue happiness... Simply the enjoyment of going for a ride.
Lol... what the hell kind of Objectivist are you? The best minds in the Objectivist tradition would blast you simply for the emotionally laden language in that first sentence, without even examining your blatantly hedonistic/laissez-faire approach to life.
Sorry. Anyway, @ OP: you don't need to defend your decision. If it is your belief that SC is harming you, for whatever reason, stop playing. The dictates of your conscience are all the reason you need.
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Don't read if you think your faith is not strong enough.
+ Show Spoiler +While I think your choice is very understandable, because there are great things you can do with your time in real life, it strikes me how people keep falling for the religious trap (obviously constructed by man) that tells them how unworthy they are, and how god is going to do this or that to punish them. The sooner you realize that even if there is a god (which there is very, very likely not, and if so, certainly not in the form any man believes in), he wants you to be happy and not some unworthy earthworm. Make such decisions for the right reasons, which allows you to concentrate on what makes you and the people you really care about (and you can actually see) happy. Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Faith without evidence (which is not faith anymore) is very, very bad and the reason for most of the fucked up shit we have to deal in this world.
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intr3pid there is no use telling someone like the op that...waste of words
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Giving up SC for religion, bad call imo
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very christian thing to say random_korean
gl ranged.. bit extreme, managing your time better would be better from my perspective. But if you can't do it then more power to you.
GL!
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On February 23 2010 20:00 randomKo_Orean wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 18:22 nayumi wrote:
Giving up SC for religion, bad call imo Fuck you.
-_- wtf? calm down
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Best of Luck with whatever you do Bro
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Just exercise some self-control...why are things so black and white with christians sometimes...
Don't worry, when you get older you'll be able to do it.
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Peace and good luck, mate. You were a good player.
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On February 23 2010 23:38 kfour wrote:
Just exercise some self-control...why are things so black and white with christians sometimes...
Don't worry, when you get older you'll be able to do it.
Not everyone has the same degree as self-control. Not everyone can drink in moderation, or take recreational drugs in moderation.
If the OP feels that SC is distracting him from things that he feels are more important, then this is not necessarily a bad decision. For people taking such an existential position, realize that the OP has chosen to pursue his relationship with God as his purpose and goal. Don't bash him because his 'pursuit of happiness' doesn't match yours.
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I'm a Christian and I'm glad you're doing it for your beliefs Ranged:-) I wish you the best and I'll be praying for you!
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On February 23 2010 16:38 DeathSpank wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 16:33 RaNgeD wrote:On February 23 2010 16:22 Piste wrote:
Hello man. You can be Christian even tho you play games and don't pray all the time.
It's enough that you believe, right? You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. (James 2:19) Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Obeying the demands of the Holy Spirit and being willing to be to go and to do his will are also very important. When I know what is right, and I don't do it, and when I know what is wrong, and I still do it, I sin. The only way for me to escape my sinful nature is to spend time in prayer with God, and by reading his word (the bible). That's not possible when im spending ALL of my free time on BW. And many well say "yes well just play a little bit." I've already tried that, so now I need to cut if off completely. Hope this helps.. God doesn't want you spending all your time reading the bible and repenting; he wants you to go out and do good deeds.
We got a prophet here folks.
Knows what God wants and stuff.
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On February 23 2010 18:18 Intr3pid wrote:Don't read if you think your faith is not strong enough. + Show Spoiler +While I think your choice is very understandable, because there are great things you can do with your time in real life, it strikes me how people keep falling for the religious trap (obviously constructed by man) that tells them how unworthy they are, and how god is going to do this or that to punish them. The sooner you realize that even if there is a god (which there is very, very likely not, and if so, certainly not in the form any man believes in), he wants you to be happy and not some unworthy earthworm. Make such decisions for the right reasons, which allows you to concentrate on what makes you and the people you really care about (and you can actually see) happy. Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Faith without evidence (which is not faith anymore) is very, very bad and the reason for most of the fucked up shit we have to deal in this world.
Faith without evidence wouldn't really be faith now would it? Also, I don't consider myself at all religious, infact I believe that religion is limiting, and a lot of it is tradition now instead of a spiritual experience. I think all of us, if we honestly believe something is true with all of our hearts, then we should continue to search out truth and be willing to change how we believe if we learn differently. Nobody wants to believe a lie, and I am 100% confident in Jesus Faith in Christ is not a religion, its a relationship. And I know lots of people think that you lose your freedom when you become a Christian, but its actually the exact opposite, Christ sets you free from the pain, the addiction, the things of this world; and gives you peace, joy, and hope.
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The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad is quite sad. Especially when happiness is secondary to god.
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I find it pretty ridiculous that the OP has clearly stated that he has a life-destroying addiction to playing the game and you people are giving him flak for using religion as a way of motivating himself out of a self-destructive spiral.
Sounds more like a bunch of other addicts are trying to pin you down so that they can ignore their own issues.
Best of luck to you ranged.
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I know how ya feel man, good luck staying away from bw.
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On February 24 2010 01:16 L wrote:
I find it pretty ridiculous that the OP has clearly stated that he has a life-destroying addiction to playing the game and you people are giving him flak for using religion as a way of motivating himself out of a self-destructive spiral.
Sounds more like a bunch of other addicts are trying to pin you down so that they can ignore their own issues.
Best of luck to you ranged.
Lol you're not serious right?
This whole blog feels so hilarious, it's like a huge troll.
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So..... you're not playing SSI?
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Would you mind sharing what exactly you mean by 'my relationship with God'? You make it sound like you think of God as a person.
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On February 24 2010 01:16 L wrote:
I find it pretty ridiculous that the OP has clearly stated that he has a life-destroying addiction to playing the game and you people are giving him flak for using religion as a way of motivating himself out of a self-destructive spiral.
Sounds more like a bunch of other addicts are trying to pin you down so that they can ignore their own issues.
Best of luck to you ranged.
You consider forgetting to pray and looking at porn life-destroying?
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makes a lot of sense!!!
If lets say your temptation is pornography, you have to do everything in your power to avoid it. That means not looking at certain shows, looking at certain magazines that even show a slight bit of it as it can tempt you, etc.
Everyone has there weakness, some is alcohol, some is adultery, others is gaming. Everything has to be in moderation, if it isn't, then that is bad.
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I hear ya man. Good job. I too am a christian and have quit SC multiple times for the same exact reason as you have. I finally am able to be a casual player. Hopefully you will be able to mature in your relationship with God in this. God bless.
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RaNgeD, I actually can relate to this. I may not have scripture to cite, but I know exactly what you mean. I often find that all of these things are distracting me, however... I just can't help but to think that that extra time won't be given rightfully. Similar to the concept of Lent: True, you're giving up something that is distracting you, however many people probably simply use that extra time to find something else that distracts them.
I know exactly where you're coming from, and I respect your opinion. God bless, and good luck with your life.
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What? This makes no sense at all.
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I liked you when we were in Keeper together, but that was awhile ago and I know nothing much about you. You seemed to have gotten a lot better since then and are a good guy. Hope you can find some middle ground in your life for SC.
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Apparently, you have not realised that StarCraft IS God.....and he wants you to spend as much time as possible with him. 
On a serious note, I cannot say I completely understand your reasoning as I do not see why a favourite pasttime should be an obstacle to your religion (as long as that pasttime does not harm other people/animals). I mean, does playing StarCraft somehow prevent you from having God in your heart?
But if you feel like playing StarCraft keeps you from doing things YOU (emphasis on you) consider to be important, then I suppose I can respect your decision. Good luck and, as the Irish would say, "may God hold you in the palm of his hand".
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I didn't realize StarCraft is what made me like pornography.
Learn something everyday.
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On February 24 2010 06:47 Bosu wrote:
I didn't realize StarCraft is what made me like pornography.
Learn something everyday.
Now you know.
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On February 24 2010 00:53 RaNgeD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 18:18 Intr3pid wrote:Don't read if you think your faith is not strong enough. + Show Spoiler +While I think your choice is very understandable, because there are great things you can do with your time in real life, it strikes me how people keep falling for the religious trap (obviously constructed by man) that tells them how unworthy they are, and how god is going to do this or that to punish them. The sooner you realize that even if there is a god (which there is very, very likely not, and if so, certainly not in the form any man believes in), he wants you to be happy and not some unworthy earthworm. Make such decisions for the right reasons, which allows you to concentrate on what makes you and the people you really care about (and you can actually see) happy. Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Faith without evidence (which is not faith anymore) is very, very bad and the reason for most of the fucked up shit we have to deal in this world. Faith without evidence wouldn't really be faith now would it? Also, I don't consider myself at all religious, infact I believe that religion is limiting, and a lot of it is tradition now instead of a spiritual experience. I think all of us, if we honestly believe something is true with all of our hearts, then we should continue to search out truth and be willing to change how we believe if we learn differently. Nobody wants to believe a lie, and I am 100% confident in Jesus Faith in Christ is not a religion, its a relationship. And I know lots of people think that you lose your freedom when you become a Christian, but its actually the exact opposite, Christ sets you free from the pain, the addiction, the things of this world; and gives you peace, joy, and hope.
WHAT LOL
"Without evidence" is part of the definition of faith lmao
in any case, it's probably a good time to quit bw anyway.
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On February 24 2010 12:34 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 00:53 RaNgeD wrote:On February 23 2010 18:18 Intr3pid wrote:Don't read if you think your faith is not strong enough. + Show Spoiler +While I think your choice is very understandable, because there are great things you can do with your time in real life, it strikes me how people keep falling for the religious trap (obviously constructed by man) that tells them how unworthy they are, and how god is going to do this or that to punish them. The sooner you realize that even if there is a god (which there is very, very likely not, and if so, certainly not in the form any man believes in), he wants you to be happy and not some unworthy earthworm. Make such decisions for the right reasons, which allows you to concentrate on what makes you and the people you really care about (and you can actually see) happy. Yes, faith in God is good, but it takes more than just believing.. Faith without evidence (which is not faith anymore) is very, very bad and the reason for most of the fucked up shit we have to deal in this world. Faith without evidence wouldn't really be faith now would it? Also, I don't consider myself at all religious, infact I believe that religion is limiting, and a lot of it is tradition now instead of a spiritual experience. I think all of us, if we honestly believe something is true with all of our hearts, then we should continue to search out truth and be willing to change how we believe if we learn differently. Nobody wants to believe a lie, and I am 100% confident in Jesus Faith in Christ is not a religion, its a relationship. And I know lots of people think that you lose your freedom when you become a Christian, but its actually the exact opposite, Christ sets you free from the pain, the addiction, the things of this world; and gives you peace, joy, and hope. WHAT LOL "Without evidence" is part of the definition of faith lmao in any case, it's probably a good time to quit bw anyway.
Woops i meant to say "faith with evidence."
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SC is a religion. You have sinned for spending your time with us.
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Despite my lack of belief in any omniscient/omnipotent power, I do admire that you have the conviction and discipline to do what you feel is right. I hope your sc free life is happy and fulfilling.
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