EPTi have a mexican telecaster btw, if that helps at all.
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rredtooth
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i have a mexican telecaster btw, if that helps at all. | ||
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bongjwa
United States199 Posts
one thing you could try is taking it to a guitar specialist that, or really anyone that is good at shaping wood that you know. they can tell you if it is refrettable or replaneable. . a quick fix to try would be to use heavier gauge strings to see if the added tension will help correct the bowing. is it bowed up or down? since you said slat im guessing down but ya never know | ||
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
Another idea is to check the intonation (basically how in tune the notes are on each fret). If every fret is sharp as you say, the string length is actually too short. I have no experience with teles however, so I would not know how to go about telling you how to fix this. If there is a bow in your neck though, you should take it to a shop for a set up. | ||
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rredtooth
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:55 redtooth wrote: don't know the distinguishing features of bowed up or down (like i don't know which way is which) but the middle part is jutting backwards (away from the strings). the strings are further from the neck in the part that it is bowed. i guess that means it bowed down? You have a bow. Bending away from the strings is called a bow. Bending towards the strings is called a back bow. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
If you don't know what you are doing you will just break it further. If you mess up your intonation/truss rod, the reparations will cost more than your guitar if it's a mexican tele. After taking it to the guitar tech, I suggest buying a hardshell case for the guitar if you care about it. | ||
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rredtooth
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On February 08 2010 14:54 Crimson wrote: i first noticed when i tried tuning by ear because my tuner said it was in tune and i was SURE it was out of tune. my A on the E string (so the 5th fret on the first string) was not anything like the open A string. i just tried the same two notes an octave higher (so 17th fret on E string and 12th fret on A string) and they sounded fine.Adjusting the truss rod is usually not a good idea unless you know what you are doing. It is possible to really damage the neck if you do something wrong. Another idea is to check the intonation (basically how in tune the notes are on each fret). If every fret is sharp as you say, the string length is actually too short. I have no experience with teles however, so I would not know how to go about telling you how to fix this. If there is a bow in your neck though, you should take it to a shop for a set up. | ||
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rredtooth
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On February 08 2010 15:00 FragKrag wrote: that's what i'm debating. i'm estimating at least $50 to fix (that's a really generous estimate imo and i don't even know if it's fixable) a 7+ year old mexican tele (worth $325 at the time) so in my mind it's debatable whether i should fix it.Get it to a guitar tech If you don't know what you are doing you will just break it further. If you mess up your intonation/truss rod, the reparations will cost more than your guitar if it's a mexican tele. After taking it to the guitar tech, I suggest buying a hardshell case for the guitar if you care about it. edit: and i'm really short on money nowadays. i guess i'm just screwed. | ||
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
On February 08 2010 15:00 redtooth wrote: i first noticed when i tried tuning by ear because my tuner said it was in tune and i was SURE it was out of tune. my A on the E string (so the 5th fret on the first string) was not anything like the open A string. i just tried the same two notes an octave higher (so 17th fret on E string and 12th fret on A string) and they sounded fine. If it is only out of tune around the fifth fret, it might be the fret itself. But, I really do not know what it could be if that is the case. I say take it to a tech. They will know that to do. It might cost some money, but it would be cheaper then if you mess up and have to get repairs on top of fixing the original problem. | ||
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koreasilver
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And adjusting the truss rod incorrectly can do some bad damage to the neck but if you do it very carefully by turning it by only a quarter turn, leaving it for a day, looking at the neck, turn it another quarter, etc., it should be pretty safe. But we need some good pics of this, and give us some measurements of how far off the strings are from the fretboard. | ||
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Glaucus
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If you can see the neck if obviously wrapped then that's not good. But if you have intonation problems you may be able to do something to make it better. | ||
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gilligan
Sweden36 Posts
put a capo on the 1st fret. now hold down the 14th fret, or whatever fret is at the start of the neck: ![[image loading]](http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Technique/Setup/BuzzDiagnosis/Relief/ReliefViews/relief1.jpg) now you're using the string as a straight edge measurement tool to see the relief of the neck, fret the 5th or 6th fret, whichever is in the middle between the two points you're fretting. (1st, 14th) See how big the distance is between the D string and the the fret, lightly tap it to see how much light shines thru, normally, there should be LESS distance between the fret and string than a 0.12 HIGH E string. 0.04-0.08 is ideal, more than that would be for strummers and HARD fngerpickers in some cases. B If there is too little or no space between the string and fret, you should loosen the truss rod. Which is completely safe. If theres too much distance, slightly tightening the truss rod 1/8 of a turn a time, wait 10-20 minutes after each adjustment, check the distance again, and tighten it another 1/8 of a turn. If there is alot mroe distance than theres suppose to be you might have to tighten it 3-5 times this way. And unless someone has madly tightened your truss rod earlier, you should be very safe, all guitars that hasnt been adjusted can be adjusted safely quite a bit before you BREAK the truss rod, which take a god damn idiot to do. as you will essentially have to FORCE the truss rod really hard to do that anyway if you need more help just ask | ||
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gilligan
Sweden36 Posts
On February 08 2010 15:15 Glaucus wrote: You can't perfectly tune a guitar. Of course that's not what you will try, but it's good to know. Doesn't your guitar allow you to adjust intonations? Can't you shuft the saddles, changing the length of the string part being fretted? If you can see the neck if obviously wrapped then that's not good. But if you have intonation problems you may be able to do something to make it better. unless you use this fret system! perfect intonation! ![[image loading]](http://www.sandenguitars.com/sve/tillval-tt_files/DSC_0002_3.jpg) | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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koreasilver
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And I think waiting 20 minutes after adjusting the truss rod is a little too short. I'd wait at least an hour. | ||
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gilligan
Sweden36 Posts
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gilligan
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koreasilver
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gilligan
Sweden36 Posts
just realised op has an electric guitar, but i assume this same concept applies electrics suck | ||
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koreasilver
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DeathSpank
United States1029 Posts
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gilligan
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rredtooth
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On February 08 2010 15:23 gilligan wrote: i'll try that out tomorrow. we'll see how it goes. how much of a bow can adjusting the truss fix?First do this ... On February 08 2010 15:15 Glaucus wrote: it's not obviously warped (once again i might just be imagining things so i'll get a measurement soon enough) but there are noticeable differences in intonation that weren't there before.If you can see the neck if obviously wrapped then that's not good. But if you have intonation problems you may be able to do something to make it better. On February 08 2010 15:47 gilligan wrote: i was thinking if all else failed i could use it as a harmonica.play it like a violin well i tried the 5th fret again on my chromatic tuner and it turned up very sharp (not so sharp as to change notes entirely but sharp nonetheless). i can try messing with the saddles and the action but i'm not too much of an expert. i don't think the action was ever perfect (never got it set up) and sometimes on thicker gauges it would buzz on certain frets because it would make contact with a fret up the neck. will be taking pictures and measuring crap soon. FYI: mexican tele with a maple neck bought ~2002 and used to be transported quite frequently in a thick soft case. i guess wasn't nice to my guitar...  baaaaaaaaah i don't have money for this crap.... | ||
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gilligan
Sweden36 Posts
also, maybe the neck is dehydrated due to low humidity. if you live in a cold climate that is with heatin indoors also, get an acoustic | ||
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rredtooth
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On February 08 2010 20:12 gilligan wrote: i'm going to admit that i've never adjusted my truss rod or my saddle. and now i live in pittsburgh blasting the heating. and i have a takamine jasmine. you'll notice that my guitars are pretty low end. this is because i don't have money.adjusting the truss rod should fix all bows, or you need a neck reset, which i dont belive u need on a 2002 instrument. and you're suppose to know how to work a truss rod cuz every string size change u need to adjust, also 1-2 times a year due to humidity. also, maybe the neck is dehydrated due to low humidity. if you live in a cold climate that is with heatin indoors also, get an acoustic | ||
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koreasilver
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