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PvT B- Terran?

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Raz0r
Profile Joined September 2008
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 00:26:07
January 23 2010 23:52 GMT
#1
I am protoss and just wanted to know if Terran is really B- level i checked his account and for 2 consecutive seasons he was c+ but just want to make sure, if his level of play in that game was B- level. I am C- max Protoss but i think i can easily go to C and maybe C+.



Main mistakes were arbiter effectiveness, some goon miss steps here and there, army positioning for attack, I realized how easily I could've sandwiched his army when he was defending the 3 oclock after i recalled. I also didn't expand after my 5th base cuz i thought i had the game won, and i should've gotten more gates cuz i was maxed and had like 3k minerals. Overall i think my army control and macro has improved significantly so I am happy even though I lost. It was a gg!

Replay link

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29581

On a side note: any tips on how to deal with 4 fact timing pushes after he goes siege expo, like I try to get an early third and i usually have around 6-8 goons by the time he has like the same number of tanks, so obv i scout his fact count, but when you know this timing attack is coming, is it possible to cut probes and have enough time to get more gates and goons up in time to stop the timing attack and still get the third up or do i have to delay the third and just macro and then get third?

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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 23 2010 23:58 GMT
#2
I don't understand the point of this post.

It's nearly impossible to tell the skill of your opponent since you presented us a VOD instead of the replay itself. If he's been C+ for the past seasons, then he's C+; what else is there to discuss?

I don't particularly enjoy watching a VOD of a replay on 2X, so if you truly feel that this is an incredible game worth sharing, perhaps uploading the replay instead.

Also, I really have a problem with people claiming that they are rank X, but could "easily" achieve rank Y with some effort. It's often not as "easy" as you think. The skill gap between every single rank is very significant and noticeable. It may be easy to reach one rank above your true rank, but it's very difficult to maintain that rank; not to mention two.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
January 24 2010 00:01 GMT
#3
I can only tell when ppl are like B and stuff when I get outplayed late game because they have a clearer game plan than me. It might have een easier to upload the replay T_T but this terran is definitly not B- or C+. My guess is without looking at any records is that he is a late season C+ terran or a mass game spammer C+ terran.
That push after you broke his third...I didn't understand why you didn't win until I saw you only had 6 gateways. You should have like 1.5x gateways to factories as terran so if he has 6, you have 9, if he has 9, you have 12 or 15
Epic mine at 4:50 and if i can make out the numbers, the T has like 4.7k minerals? anywho you didn't have the late game macro nesecary to win. By the looks of it, you pushed deep into his static defense, yet you didn't have any troops to stream in so.....meh
jyhlol
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
243 Posts
January 24 2010 00:01 GMT
#4
Maybe posting a replay would be better.
Btw nice song, Chaeyeon is awesome.
hwasin, zero, really fan
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
January 24 2010 00:09 GMT
#5
So, you basically want to make yourself feel better for losing by having us estimate this terran's skill off a VOD?
Raz0r
Profile Joined September 2008
United States287 Posts
January 24 2010 00:10 GMT
#6
I'll post the replay as soon as gosugamers accepts the replay i posted
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 24 2010 00:15 GMT
#7
why not just upload it onto repdepot?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
January 24 2010 00:15 GMT
#8
^host it on repdepot.net
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 24 2010 00:26 GMT
#9
On January 24 2010 09:10 Raz0r wrote:
I'll post the replay as soon as gosugamers accepts the replay i posted


seriously?

repdepot.net is your friend
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
January 24 2010 00:35 GMT
#10
Yeah he probably could get B- if he played enough, after all there are a huge amount of C+ players who can poke into the B- range eventually. Someone who actually manages to stay at B- is a lot better but whatever, not like people are specific about whether their rank is their stable rank or not.
No I'm never serious.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 24 2010 00:50 GMT
#11
On January 24 2010 09:09 Try wrote:
So, you basically want to make yourself feel better for losing by having us estimate this terran's skill off a VOD?

If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
January 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#12
Hard to tell. The Terran had so many free expos the vod doesn't present his skill.
the throws never bothered me anyway
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
January 24 2010 01:23 GMT
#13
On January 24 2010 09:10 Raz0r wrote:
I'll post the replay as soon as gosugamers accepts the replay i posted


gosugamers wont accept the replay. The only replays they accept are of high level foreigners, or koreans. They don't upload random games.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7205 Posts
January 24 2010 02:44 GMT
#14
id say hes around 6153 level
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4640 Posts
January 24 2010 03:09 GMT
#15
On January 24 2010 08:52 Raz0r wrote:
I am C- max Protoss but i think i can easily go to C and maybe C+.

Oh lord!
This neo violence, pure self defiance
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
January 24 2010 03:51 GMT
#16
On January 24 2010 12:09 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 08:52 Raz0r wrote:
I am C- max Protoss but i think i can easily go to C and maybe C+.

Oh lord!

Thats exactly where i stopped taking this blog seriously.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 24 2010 04:00 GMT
#17
wow u so gosu ;;
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
January 24 2010 04:25 GMT
#18
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 24 2010 06:23 GMT
#19
i don't think hes b- level...his attack on the left expo was pathetic...like really bad!
Tossim111
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
January 24 2010 09:08 GMT
#20
you played pretty good, it's very possible you can reach c+ or higher... but sometimes it would be better sacrificing your gas exp at 8 since it was nearly 80% being mined out and you could have traded off exps and countered and attacked his 3... haven't really put much thought into it, but it seems you lost like 15+ goons trying to defend an almost useless exp while his exp at 3 was probably game winning.
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