• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:41
CET 15:41
KST 23:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA14
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1909 users

PvT B- Terran?

Blogs > Raz0r
Post a Reply
Normal
Raz0r
Profile Joined September 2008
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 00:26:07
January 23 2010 23:52 GMT
#1
I am protoss and just wanted to know if Terran is really B- level i checked his account and for 2 consecutive seasons he was c+ but just want to make sure, if his level of play in that game was B- level. I am C- max Protoss but i think i can easily go to C and maybe C+.



Main mistakes were arbiter effectiveness, some goon miss steps here and there, army positioning for attack, I realized how easily I could've sandwiched his army when he was defending the 3 oclock after i recalled. I also didn't expand after my 5th base cuz i thought i had the game won, and i should've gotten more gates cuz i was maxed and had like 3k minerals. Overall i think my army control and macro has improved significantly so I am happy even though I lost. It was a gg!

Replay link

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29581

On a side note: any tips on how to deal with 4 fact timing pushes after he goes siege expo, like I try to get an early third and i usually have around 6-8 goons by the time he has like the same number of tanks, so obv i scout his fact count, but when you know this timing attack is coming, is it possible to cut probes and have enough time to get more gates and goons up in time to stop the timing attack and still get the third up or do i have to delay the third and just macro and then get third?

*
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 23 2010 23:58 GMT
#2
I don't understand the point of this post.

It's nearly impossible to tell the skill of your opponent since you presented us a VOD instead of the replay itself. If he's been C+ for the past seasons, then he's C+; what else is there to discuss?

I don't particularly enjoy watching a VOD of a replay on 2X, so if you truly feel that this is an incredible game worth sharing, perhaps uploading the replay instead.

Also, I really have a problem with people claiming that they are rank X, but could "easily" achieve rank Y with some effort. It's often not as "easy" as you think. The skill gap between every single rank is very significant and noticeable. It may be easy to reach one rank above your true rank, but it's very difficult to maintain that rank; not to mention two.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
January 24 2010 00:01 GMT
#3
I can only tell when ppl are like B and stuff when I get outplayed late game because they have a clearer game plan than me. It might have een easier to upload the replay T_T but this terran is definitly not B- or C+. My guess is without looking at any records is that he is a late season C+ terran or a mass game spammer C+ terran.
That push after you broke his third...I didn't understand why you didn't win until I saw you only had 6 gateways. You should have like 1.5x gateways to factories as terran so if he has 6, you have 9, if he has 9, you have 12 or 15
Epic mine at 4:50 and if i can make out the numbers, the T has like 4.7k minerals? anywho you didn't have the late game macro nesecary to win. By the looks of it, you pushed deep into his static defense, yet you didn't have any troops to stream in so.....meh
jyhlol
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
243 Posts
January 24 2010 00:01 GMT
#4
Maybe posting a replay would be better.
Btw nice song, Chaeyeon is awesome.
hwasin, zero, really fan
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
January 24 2010 00:09 GMT
#5
So, you basically want to make yourself feel better for losing by having us estimate this terran's skill off a VOD?
Raz0r
Profile Joined September 2008
United States287 Posts
January 24 2010 00:10 GMT
#6
I'll post the replay as soon as gosugamers accepts the replay i posted
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 24 2010 00:15 GMT
#7
why not just upload it onto repdepot?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
January 24 2010 00:15 GMT
#8
^host it on repdepot.net
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 24 2010 00:26 GMT
#9
On January 24 2010 09:10 Raz0r wrote:
I'll post the replay as soon as gosugamers accepts the replay i posted


seriously?

repdepot.net is your friend
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
January 24 2010 00:35 GMT
#10
Yeah he probably could get B- if he played enough, after all there are a huge amount of C+ players who can poke into the B- range eventually. Someone who actually manages to stay at B- is a lot better but whatever, not like people are specific about whether their rank is their stable rank or not.
No I'm never serious.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 24 2010 00:50 GMT
#11
On January 24 2010 09:09 Try wrote:
So, you basically want to make yourself feel better for losing by having us estimate this terran's skill off a VOD?

If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
January 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#12
Hard to tell. The Terran had so many free expos the vod doesn't present his skill.
the throws never bothered me anyway
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
January 24 2010 01:23 GMT
#13
On January 24 2010 09:10 Raz0r wrote:
I'll post the replay as soon as gosugamers accepts the replay i posted


gosugamers wont accept the replay. The only replays they accept are of high level foreigners, or koreans. They don't upload random games.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
January 24 2010 02:44 GMT
#14
id say hes around 6153 level
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
January 24 2010 03:09 GMT
#15
On January 24 2010 08:52 Raz0r wrote:
I am C- max Protoss but i think i can easily go to C and maybe C+.

Oh lord!
This neo violence, pure self defiance
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
January 24 2010 03:51 GMT
#16
On January 24 2010 12:09 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 08:52 Raz0r wrote:
I am C- max Protoss but i think i can easily go to C and maybe C+.

Oh lord!

Thats exactly where i stopped taking this blog seriously.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 24 2010 04:00 GMT
#17
wow u so gosu ;;
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
January 24 2010 04:25 GMT
#18
--- Nuked ---
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 24 2010 06:23 GMT
#19
i don't think hes b- level...his attack on the left expo was pathetic...like really bad!
Tossim111
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
January 24 2010 09:08 GMT
#20
you played pretty good, it's very possible you can reach c+ or higher... but sometimes it would be better sacrificing your gas exp at 8 since it was nearly 80% being mined out and you could have traded off exps and countered and attacked his 3... haven't really put much thought into it, but it seems you lost like 15+ goons trying to defend an almost useless exp while his exp at 3 was probably game winning.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 24 2010 09:09 GMT
#21
Even if he is B- level then all this proves is that + Show Spoiler +
Protoss is easy
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
14:00
Bonus Weekend Qualifier
WardiTV499
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 50
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8284
Hyuk 8016
Sea 7769
Rain 4949
GuemChi 1367
Mini 521
firebathero 327
Larva 276
BeSt 226
PianO 226
[ Show more ]
Leta 151
Last 97
Barracks 64
Killer 51
Sea.KH 40
JulyZerg 40
ToSsGirL 38
Backho 35
Noble 24
soO 23
Terrorterran 18
HiyA 15
SilentControl 15
scan(afreeca) 13
yabsab 11
Sacsri 9
Shine 9
Bale 6
Dota 2
Gorgc8684
singsing2080
qojqva1450
Dendi872
XcaliburYe158
League of Legends
Reynor85
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1758
allub233
oskar165
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor313
Other Games
B2W.Neo2498
crisheroes518
Fuzer 326
Hui .285
Pyrionflax222
KnowMe65
XaKoH 47
Dewaltoss21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream35563
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 1493
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH170
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2397
• WagamamaTV386
League of Legends
• Nemesis2889
Upcoming Events
IPSL
5h 19m
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
5h 19m
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
OSC
8h 19m
OSC
18h 19m
Wardi Open
21h 19m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 2h
OSC
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LAN Event
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.