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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 20 2010 23:23 GMT
#121
On January 21 2010 08:06 arb wrote:
ill be quite straight up.

your zvz was 3-2 vs FLAF.

You probably would have beat him 3-0 TvZ so..

He did proxy a hatchery and went all in lings. And ret said he made some mistake in game 3 that he normally wouldn't make.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 21 2010 00:28 GMT
#122
What are you must comfortable with at the moment? Which matchup are you most confident in? Which matchup do you clanmates/practice partners think you're best at atm? Which match up is least dependent on a lag free connection? And finally who's most likely are you going face in your brackets, up until the finals? Personally I'd say Sen and Koll, so how do you usually beat these two? Can you say that your zvz is truly up to par with your TvZ? How do you know? Hell, can you even say that your TvZ is up to par with your TvZ from six months ago? If you started now, could you get your TvZ in top form, in a short amount of time??
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
January 21 2010 01:16 GMT
#123
i voted zerg but you should do terran.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
January 21 2010 01:34 GMT
#124
You obviously should play terran. TBH outside of korea there seems to be a skillset cap on zvz where any of you good zergs can win or lose to each other while your terran is A)better at TvZ then you are at ZvZ B) unleashes your greatest strengths which are macro, timing and inteligent midgame-lategame plans. C) castro and most of the zergs you 'will' face have much much weaker mechanics then you do so choosing a slightly (55% to 45%) imbalanced matchup AND being a better player will definately increase your odds of winning.

Oh ya and the map poor is rigged for it.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
January 21 2010 01:37 GMT
#125
On January 21 2010 07:25 NeoOmega wrote:
But in all seriousness, what effect could this have on castro?


ret has to decide one week before the games what race he is playing so castro gets ample preparation time.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 01:43:12
January 21 2010 01:42 GMT
#126
On January 21 2010 10:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 07:25 NeoOmega wrote:
But in all seriousness, what effect could this have on castro?


ret has to decide one week before the games what race he is playing so castro gets ample preparation time.

Tell him to play TvZ eri, he needs your influence now !

wtf someone rig this poll please it is only letting me vote for terran once ...
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
January 21 2010 02:00 GMT
#127
T yo
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 21 2010 02:26 GMT
#128
On January 21 2010 03:42 EsX_Raptor wrote:


Now Castro is a South American Zerg. What does this mean? This means that he's going to be playing against you doing some crazyfuck retarded strategies al BO5 series long, and I'm talking about lurker openings with a high probability of dropping non-stop from the early through the late midgame and also maybe some crazy ling allins. He also lags and this means your marine micro will totally fail against lurkers, and we all know that he is a heavy macro Zerg and defends his exps with mass sunken.

Now if you play ZvZ against him, what is the worst things he can do? Ling allin hands down, and I'm quite sure you can actually handle that, aren't you?


lol... have you watched Castro's games lately? if you think he only cheeses you're pretty ignorant.
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SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 02:36:26
January 21 2010 02:32 GMT
#129
I dont understand nothing about ZvZ so i just gonna give my opinion of a random noob.

We all know that your TvZ was amazing and your ZvZ is not so good.
But comon on you been training ZvZ for about what? 5/6 moth and now you want to switch to Terran even tho is for a bo5?
I dont think that is a good choise.

Well basic is a bad choise because you been training ZvZ like i mad man (i suppose) , just because you 3-2 Flaf ( the first, second or both loss was your fault i think i read that somehere) you gonna loss your confident in you and your skills in ZvZ just because you loss 2 games because your mistakes?
Come on be a real "gamer" just pratice even more harder ZvZ and if you loss atleast you loss with "honour" ^^

And you know what? I really think that Castro can suprise you in TvZ but like i said above is just a random noob opinion

Edit : If he pass he gonna play once again ZvZ or TvZ im pretty sure of that so is no just 1 game ^^
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Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
January 21 2010 02:40 GMT
#130
Which ever you are better at. Its really about winning, that's what people will remember. What race you use isn't as important, you will always have more time to train your ZvZ later o:
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
January 21 2010 02:48 GMT
#131
I'm going to say T since you seemed to have so much confidence when you were playing it.

However, I'm not sure if it's still up to the snuff T_T
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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
January 21 2010 03:05 GMT
#132
I voted zerg, but you should play whatever you feel would give you the best chance of continuing on in the TSL. I'd hate to see you knocked out for holding true to some silly self-imposed rule.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 21 2010 03:11 GMT
#133
ret play your best and make the decision that gives you the best chance to win.

Only you know what this truly is.

Win or lose make sure you have 0 regrets with whichever decision you made.

cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
January 21 2010 06:15 GMT
#134
TvZ because lag will fuck him more than you.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
January 21 2010 07:33 GMT
#135
Terran if you're still up to par with it. I figure if you're better than your opponent you might as well go T and not have to mess with the build order chances in zvz =/
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
January 21 2010 11:44 GMT
#136
On January 21 2010 15:15 cronican wrote:
TvZ because lag will fuck him more than you.

lol that's not true

Especially because he's so used to playing in laggy conditions. It's like he's got a huge home field advantage.
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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
January 21 2010 12:03 GMT
#137
Somebody mentioned that Castro has got new internet at home, so maybe that will reduce the lag. Or increase it, who knows? :D
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Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
January 21 2010 12:10 GMT
#138
Yea, if i was castro i would start some downloads and have some random streams running while playing to capitalize on all the years of lag practise.

But i'm a terrible human being with no conscience governed purely by greed.

Anyways - like said before; whatever you feel will give you the biggest chance of winning.
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 13:46:06
January 21 2010 13:45 GMT
#139
I'd say ZvZ, I just think race-picking for different match-ups is silly in general.

edit- but I feel more strongly that you should make your own choice based on what you think you are most likely to win with, rather than following this poll
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 21 2010 13:58 GMT
#140
go z
terran is too hard for you
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