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kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
January 19 2010 19:14 GMT
#1
Once i was in pub with friends and i dont know why but we were talking about money... and i said that money have not any value i mean its not cover by gold or anything like this, like it was in past.. and all of my friends were furious that i am mad and stupid that money are ofcourse cover by gold... does anybody of u also think this?

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Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 19 2010 19:17 GMT
#2
Uh.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-19 19:20:17
January 19 2010 19:19 GMT
#3
On January 20 2010 04:17 koreasilver wrote:
Uh.


Define "value". Money no longer represents a quantity of gold that a bank has stored for you... but that doesn't mean it no longer has value.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
January 19 2010 19:19 GMT
#4
Are you asking if there is gold to back up the dollar? If so, idk... as long as my money works at stores then I'm good.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 19 2010 19:20 GMT
#5
Using paper for money is only slightly more arbitrary than using precious metals for money (in terms of their value to a given individual in practical terms).

Also, don't post when your drunk anymore.
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
January 19 2010 19:20 GMT
#6
I think he's trying to practice his English skills, hopefully.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
January 19 2010 19:22 GMT
#7
Yes, Ron Paul and about 50,000 other dumb, uninformed supporters of his from the internet.
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StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
January 19 2010 19:26 GMT
#8
It's hard to say. Money itself can not yield you any benefits other than wiping your ass and using to make fire. But people trust that when they get money for a good or service that they can use it to obtain another good or service, if nobody trusted in the value that money could yield, then it would be virtually useless.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 19 2010 19:27 GMT
#9
Most currencies today are not backed by gold - they are "fiat" currencies. However, they must legally be accepted by anyone in their country of origin. This means most people, like your friends, think that as long as the government / central bank works OK, currency is far from worthless: it represents a pretty stable claim on the goods and services in a country.

That said, since the quantity of fiat money is controlled by the government, rather than fixed (ie - pegged to the amount of gold), in some cases a bill can become useless or severely eroded (ie - Zimbabwe last year, Germany after WW1, etc.). Some people who do not like the thought of a central bank making monetary policy decisions still argue we should go back to a gold standard of sorts. This is a minority view today.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 19 2010 19:28 GMT
#10
On January 20 2010 04:19 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 04:17 koreasilver wrote:
Uh.


Define "value". Money no longer represents a quantity of gold that a bank has stored for you... but that doesn't mean it no longer has value.

I still don't know if he means it like that or that currency doesn't hold value because they literally aren't made of precious metals anymore.
Not_A_Notion
Profile Joined May 2009
Ireland441 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-19 19:38:26
January 19 2010 19:28 GMT
#11
Pretty much nowhere (that I can think of) has a gold standard or any kind of specie currency anymore, it's all fiat currency now. Central banks do have gold on reserve but it is not the sole determinant of how much money there is like the old days.
I know Milton Friedman is a controversial figure, but whatever about his libertarian beliefs, he was a good monetary economist, here is a pretty interesting historical account of money
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EDIT* Actually if anyone has read any good books on the history of money, maybe you could let me know. As a lot of the stories are hilarious.
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kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-19 19:32:57
January 19 2010 19:30 GMT
#12
yes i meant that gold standart no more exist... and most of my friends think that still does... and it was quite shocking for me... so i was curious if people here knows about it
and sorry that my english isnt so good... i would like to see some american to speak other langue than their first... i mean if u are mexican spanish doesnt count or canada english/french
btw i read two friedman books , money matters and freedom choice or how is it in english... but anyway thx for link
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
January 19 2010 19:33 GMT
#13
You are correct. The gold standard no longer exists because there is way more money in existence than there is gold monetary value to cover it.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 19 2010 19:33 GMT
#14
lol
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
January 19 2010 19:35 GMT
#15
5/5
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
January 19 2010 19:35 GMT
#16
i think the answer has already been covered, but i was so so confused before i read the responses. haha
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
January 19 2010 19:36 GMT
#17
On January 20 2010 04:33 Jonoman92 wrote:
You are correct. The gold standard no longer exists because there is way more money in existence than there is gold monetary value to cover it.

sry but this is like most stupid argument..
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 19 2010 19:36 GMT
#18
On January 20 2010 04:33 Jonoman92 wrote:
You are correct. The gold standard no longer exists because there is way more money in existence than there is gold monetary value to cover it.


The amount of gold in circulation does not matter. It would only affect the conversion rate.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-19 19:38:20
January 19 2010 19:37 GMT
#19
On January 20 2010 04:20 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I think he's trying to practice his English skills, hopefully.


you are dumb, learn another language at least that good and then come again
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
January 19 2010 19:40 GMT
#20
Ok now I don't feel bad for you not liking me.
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