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Who do you practice against to prepare for Flash?

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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 08 2010 20:40 GMT
#1
obviously, spoilers







movie said that he practiced against orion, hydra, and kwanro to prepare for shine. kwanro seems like an excellent choice because he's good early game like shine.

but who does he have to practice with against flash? no cj terran plays like flash. seems like a bit of a conundrum.

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StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 20:49:07
January 08 2010 20:43 GMT
#2
Skyhigh + Iris on TeamMelee
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 08 2010 20:43 GMT
#3
you play against Iris and Skyhigh 2v1 in Team Melee
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 08 2010 20:44 GMT
#4
On January 09 2010 05:43 StarN wrote:
Skyhigh + Iris on TeamMelee


hahahaha. Great minds think alike
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 08 2010 20:45 GMT
#5
oh, what? that's an incredible coincidence
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akevin
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada120 Posts
January 08 2010 20:54 GMT
#6
On January 09 2010 05:45 motbob wrote:
oh, what? that's an incredible coincidence


Haha, yea I agree.
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
January 08 2010 20:55 GMT
#7
Wow! That was such a coincidence lol
Would make it even more funny if you two are right lol

I think you can ask your teammates to try an imitate Flash's style... if that is even possible.

They do sometimes practice with players from other houses, too. ^^
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 08 2010 20:55 GMT
#8
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StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
January 08 2010 21:08 GMT
#9
On January 09 2010 05:55 Leath wrote:
Wow! That was such a coincidence lol
Would make it even more funny if you two are right lol

I can just see in the post game interview
"Nobody expected you to 3-0 FlaSh, who were your practice partners?"
"I just practiced with guys around the CJ House. After beating SkyHigh Iris and Idra in a 3v1 TeamMelee I knew I could beat FlaSh."
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yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
January 08 2010 21:08 GMT
#10
Really is probably the most stylistically similar.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 08 2010 21:09 GMT
#11
haha team melee was the first thing that came to my mind when I read the title.

I think players like Mind and Hwasin have a similar mentality to flash. I'm not very familiar with the specifics of the TvP styles of these players when compared to Flash tho.

I doubt he'll be practicing strictly with his teammates, SL finals are beyond such boundaries.

this is an interesting topic.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
January 08 2010 21:11 GMT
#12
Maybe this is why KT has gotten better! All that practice vs Flash.

Then why is ForGG so bad...
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 08 2010 21:11 GMT
#13
On January 09 2010 06:08 yhnmk wrote:
Really is probably the most stylistically similar.


Yeah, I think he'd ask some macro-oriented Terran to use some flash based BOs (like someone said earlier, playing like flash).

I think movie actually has a chance against our Terran monster; if he 3-2s him, I said it~!
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Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
January 08 2010 21:11 GMT
#14
On January 09 2010 06:08 StarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 05:55 Leath wrote:
Wow! That was such a coincidence lol
Would make it even more funny if you two are right lol

I can just see in the post game interview
"Nobody expected you to 3-0 FlaSh, who were your practice partners?"
"I just practiced with guys around the CJ House. After beating SkyHigh Iris and Idra in a 3v1 TeamMelee I knew I could beat FlaSh."

haha
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 08 2010 21:12 GMT
#15
People play way better during house practice than in televised matches, all pros agree so the teammates he does have can imitate flash and maybe come close to his style... And Comeh, way to bring a strong argument for your answer.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 08 2010 21:19 GMT
#16
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 08 2010 21:26 GMT
#17
On (Z)January 09 2010 06:12 GreEny K wrote:
People play way better during house practice than in televised matches, all pros agree so the teammates he does have can imitate (T)Flash and maybe come close to his (Z)Style... And Comeh, way to bring a strong argument for your answer.

I'm a fan-boy ^^, what do you expect.
In all seriousness, however, (T)sKyHigh isn't too bad of a practice partner - and (T)UpMaGiC shows a similar style to (T)Flash (as in the (T)UpMaGiC vs (P)Movie game), so he would be a decent practice partner. However, I think to beat (T)Flash (P)Movie will have to do a lot of "cheesy" type builds, and hope (T)Flash just does a few mistakes.
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
January 08 2010 21:28 GMT
#18
Obviously Movie pays some KT guy to alter his ruler so keyboard is different spot :D
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 08 2010 21:28 GMT
#19
This is probably the hottest possible finale of all.
I think I even like Flash vs Movie more than Flash vs Jaedong.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
January 08 2010 21:37 GMT
#20
On January 09 2010 06:12 GreEny K wrote:
People play way better during house practice than in televised matches, all pros agree so the teammates he does have can imitate flash and maybe come close to his style... And Comeh, way to bring a strong argument for your answer.

yeah i think this too. look at it this way, players like jaedong/flash/bisu/stork rarely practice against each other, even though they are in their own tier of skill. you see them thanking pretty mediocre players from their own houses most often for helping them practice, meaning that it's obviously sufficient for them to maintain their skill. flash especially has spoken a lot on public ignorance of 'the level of gaming that happen inside the practice house', so they must have some sick, sick replays in there =]
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
January 08 2010 21:38 GMT
#21
I think Team Melee would be a lot more attractive for training if it could produce replays. Unfortunately it can't, making it a much less useful game mode in terms of preparing and tailoring builds and timings.

Pros always seem to surprise me in their interviews, citing non-S-class practice partners. For example, Movie deciding not to go for everybody's guess of Effort as a practice partner. Probably the high skill level in untelevised matches has something to do with this... gamers like Orion and Hydra might perform just as well in practice as Effort does on TV.

My guess is that he'll yet again pick gamers we wouldn't think of first, based on friendships, availability, and other factors besides the skills we see on TV.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 08 2010 21:55 GMT
#22
Well, I think Sea is the best Terran atm besides Flash, but Really has more similar playstyle, so I'd go with him.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
January 08 2010 21:59 GMT
#23
Maybe Idra can spare some time between TSL matches.
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
January 08 2010 22:01 GMT
#24
im pretty sure movie mentioned beating effort helped incrreased his confidence in the interview../
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8136 Posts
January 08 2010 22:06 GMT
#25
On January 09 2010 06:38 EchOne wrote:
I think Team Melee would be a lot more attractive for training if it could produce replays. Unfortunately it can't, making it a much less useful game mode in terms of preparing and tailoring builds and timings.

Pros always seem to surprise me in their interviews, citing non-S-class practice partners. For example, Movie deciding not to go for everybody's guess of Effort as a practice partner. Probably the high skill level in untelevised matches has something to do with this... gamers like Orion and Hydra might perform just as well in practice as Effort does on TV.

My guess is that he'll yet again pick gamers we wouldn't think of first, based on friendships, availability, and other factors besides the skills we see on TV.


a lot of it has to do with the players being able to practice with each other. Movie might not of necessarily "picked" orion/hydra to practice with over effort, but effort had to practice for PL and so movie practiced with others who werent as busy.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 08 2010 22:07 GMT
#26
(T)Sea!
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
January 08 2010 23:00 GMT
#27
On January 09 2010 07:07 Grobyc wrote:
(T)Sea!



Flash and Sea practice on west together whenever flash practices tvt for a match. I doubt he would help movie beat his friend =).
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
January 08 2010 23:12 GMT
#28
Poor Movie is doooooooomed. If he wins though - or even goes 2-3, he will earn so much respect. I just hope he thinks of some damn creative cheeses or pulls some novel strategy out of his ass.
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 08 2010 23:14 GMT
#29
also it's not all about the practicing

tbh the only realistic way movie is going to beat flash is if he prepares a series of new, unexpected, and possibly insane yet successful builds

there is pretty much a 5% chance that movie will actually beat flash straight up

he's going to have to collaborate with other good toss players to develop new strats and stuff
if stork helped him that'd be sweet; stork helping movie develop a new strat to indirectly revenege himself for Bacchus 08 would make for some nice drama
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 08 2010 23:15 GMT
#30
In general, for advice Movie may consult Stork (PvT) and Much (Build creations). Both might be willing to help, moreso Much because of his previous stint in CJ.

In terms of Terran Practice Partners, apparently, and I know I'm going to get laughed at for this, Frozean is amazing in practice but unable to show that in live games. Maybe Movie looks there for help. Or, Movie could turn to Mind or SkyHigh. Mind does tend to have the same defensive style as Flash and Skyhigh is not bad either.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9775 Posts
January 09 2010 00:04 GMT
#31
i feel like (T)Canata and (T)Mind and (T)CuteAngel are all viable practice partners. but (P)Movie's seriously going to have to work his butt off.
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 00:26:30
January 09 2010 00:25 GMT
#32
top pros duh
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 09 2010 00:27 GMT
#33
On January 09 2010 05:44 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 05:43 StarN wrote:
Skyhigh + Iris on TeamMelee


hahahaha. Great minds think alike

Stupid minds think alike too :/
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 00:49:09
January 09 2010 00:48 GMT
#34
(P)Movie will practice with...

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Flash, because they're in the same clan
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banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
January 09 2010 00:48 GMT
#35
Movie will practice with idra obviously.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 09 2010 00:50 GMT
#36
Movie should disguise himself as Flash and play FBH.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10343 Posts
January 09 2010 02:08 GMT
#37
Kwanro's lategame > Kwanro's early game.

But people are too filled with hate to admit this.
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arcticStorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States295 Posts
January 09 2010 03:14 GMT
#38
The obvious thing is for Movie to pretend he's Violet and beg Flash for Proleague help
This statement is a lie.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 09 2010 03:15 GMT
#39
(T)Sea is likely to help Movie, I think I remember him saying in an interview a while back that lately he's been cheering for Flash to lose.

Movie wants to get his hands on (T)Really, though. 10-0 in his last ten TvPs, that kid knows his TvP.

Flash has (P)Violet and (P)Stats to help him (assuming Stats loses to Jaedong tonight), and (P)Stork will probably help out too since they're good friends.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
January 09 2010 03:32 GMT
#40
(T)IdrA
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arcticStorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States295 Posts
January 09 2010 04:05 GMT
#41
On January 09 2010 12:32 konadora wrote:
(T)IdrA


I agree, he should play Idra right before the finals, but have him use the nickname "flash" to gain confidence.
This statement is a lie.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
January 09 2010 05:08 GMT
#42
On January 09 2010 06:08 StarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 05:55 Leath wrote:
Wow! That was such a coincidence lol
Would make it even more funny if you two are right lol

I can just see in the post game interview
"Nobody expected you to 3-0 FlaSh, who were your practice partners?"
"I just practiced with guys around the CJ House. After beating SkyHigh Iris and Idra in a 3v1 TeamMelee I knew I could beat FlaSh."


HAHA, SkyHigh and Iris are like "IdrA, just make SCVs, thats a very useful talent toi have"
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 09 2010 05:12 GMT
#43
Movie should just *talk* to stork and ask him for advice...
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Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9029 Posts
January 09 2010 05:14 GMT
#44
On January 09 2010 05:43 StarN wrote:
Skyhigh + Iris on TeamMelee

Last edit: 2010-01-09 05:49:07

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