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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
December 29 2009 13:46 GMT
#21
He wants to list it as an "interest", not as a skill or edge providing experience. =O
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
December 29 2009 13:56 GMT
#22
I dont see the point in not putting it on... I mean, it's not like they're going to be like "oh god, he's a nerd, we don't really want a nerd representing our company do we???". Nerds make the best employees half the time.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 29 2009 14:10 GMT
#23
It's probably better to leave it off a resume, where there is little room to explain it. Best bring it up in an interview if they ask about your hobbies / interests.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
December 29 2009 14:11 GMT
#24
On December 29 2009 21:56 Day[9] wrote:
what in the FUCK is wrong with you people. I've made it incredibly far in life by sharing my experiences with starcraft. As long as you know how to talk about it intelligently, then go for it.

I mean honestly, how many of you have put starcraft on your resume, and then had the guy go "we'd really like to hire you, but the fact that you have starcraft here makes us hesitate." I was honestly admitted to a billion universities and graduate programs because people were genuinely impressed and curious about my experiences with starcraft.

When you get invited for an interview, having SC on the resume is already a non-issue. It is the getting invited for an interview part, where you want your resume to look as pristine and flawless as possible, so that the bean counter HR person can only attribute positive marks to it. You don't get a chance to explain yourself to them, and 'gamer' on your resume currently still has a negative connotation. Except for very specific job markets.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 14:24:49
December 29 2009 14:22 GMT
#25
I don't see anything wrong with it.

It's a hobby like any other hobbies. Sure it might sound a little bit awkward but hey, maybe you'll get the interview because the employer wants to find out what exactly professional Starcraft is Then when you show him Flash vs Jaedong VOD, you will probably get the job.

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cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
December 29 2009 14:32 GMT
#26
We don't all have your charisma Day[9].

You could make reading the phone book seem like the most awesome thing you can do on a saturday night.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
December 29 2009 14:49 GMT
#27
It's stupid and worthless unless you plan on doing something in video games... day's unique experience doesn't change the fact that it's the exception and not the rule. Most people who are reviewing these things are old fucks who wouldn't know what it is and certainly aren't going to be impressed with their applicant who writes down video games as a hobby.
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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 15:19:35
December 29 2009 15:15 GMT
#28
your interest in watching SC should not be in your resume lol

unless your applying to a videogame design company or something. you make your resume based on the job your applying for, you don't use the same resume for every job you apply for. McDonalds are not gonna care you play video games, but applying for blizzard, you might want to add that in there.

day[9] has a good point but i still think its situational. if you are applying for this job because you desperately need it, then there are things i might not put on there. but if your applying for a job that you might want to work at, and you want to make sure it will accept you for who you are, then you might want to.

point is, people will not hire you for MUCH more meaningless and arbitrary details, saying your a videogame playing nut will give a bad vibe to a lot of people. and yes, if you can talk about it correctly, its good. but on resume?? where you can only say one sentence about it? its not the best idea.
leftykill
Profile Joined October 2009
United States120 Posts
December 29 2009 15:23 GMT
#29
My opinion would be to make your resume stand out. Now when the economy the way it is, when a company puts out they are hiring for a position they might have a thousand resumes to look through. If your applying for a company that is highly internet aware putting starcraft or esports in your resume might make yours stand out. I think it just depends on the situation and wouldn't hurt to put it on your resume. Just my two cents.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
December 29 2009 15:37 GMT
#30
I put "competitive video games" on a resume before. We talked about WCG briefly during the interview. For reference I didn't get hired but I made it past that interview. I think the wording you choose is important and also that you explain it succintly and positively.

To Day, I think if you put the wrong one-line on your resume it could absolutely cause the employer not to give you an interview.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 15:41:54
December 29 2009 15:40 GMT
#31
In my experience, a resume should not have a lot of frills on it. A good resume is one that gets to the point and shows them why you deserve this job. IDK what job you would be applying for, but unless it has to do with ESports, I can guarantee you that your employer will not care. Actually, I don't think any one should put "hobbies & interests" on a resume at all unless for some reason it is applicable to the job you're applying for.

Even with skills, some people put some down that have nothing to do with the job they are applying for. When you type a resume, it should be tailored to that job. Your information under the heading 'skills' should show skills that have to do with that specific job. If you have a random assortment of skills, it would show me that you are just using a general resume for every place you go.

On December 30 2009 00:37 Chill wrote:
To Day, I think if you put the wrong one-line on your resume it could absolutely cause the employer not to give you an interview.


Absolutely agree. My father owns a business, and tells me about the things he looks for on a resume that would cause him to not offer the individual an interview.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 15:44:52
December 29 2009 15:43 GMT
#32
I would put it on if i had the balls to, and i feel like its always best to be genuine 100%, they may look at it weirdly but they knew you were being honest. Plus im sure employers just want to see your other interests and make an assumption of what kind of person you are. Also i believe they are trying to make sure you're not some psychopath, like "i like to torture squirrels" So why not, put it on, it'll make your entire resume look MUCH more honest.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
December 29 2009 15:47 GMT
#33
replace STARCRAFT with WORLD OF WARCRAFT. employers wont hire you 99% of the time.
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quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 16:13:28
December 29 2009 16:12 GMT
#34
Are you actually a good player such that "professional starcraft" might be a legitimate pursuit rather than some pie-in-the-sky wet dream?

Nobody cares about experience in watching games. I watch NBA games all the time, but I'm not gonna put "professional basketball" on my resume.

Interests on a resume are hobbies/activities that you already do or have the capability of doing. It's not the place for wet dreams and fantasies, even if those technically "interest" you.

Either way its easier to just say no.

Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
December 29 2009 16:21 GMT
#35
On December 30 2009 01:12 quiong wrote:
Are you actually a good player such that "professional starcraft" might be a legitimate pursuit rather than some pie-in-the-sky wet dream?

Nobody cares about experience in watching games. I watch NBA games all the time, but I'm not gonna put "professional basketball" on my resume.

Interests on a resume are hobbies/activities that you already do or have the capability of doing. It's not the place for wet dreams and fantasies, even if those technically "interest" you.

Either way its easier to just say no.



Exactly
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 29 2009 16:21 GMT
#36
thanks for the advice. looks like i'm not going to put it on. just to clarify it would have been under the heading "Personal" or "Additional Information" (haven't finalized which one i'm going to go with just yet) and in the bullet which went something like "Interests include blah, blah, professional starcraft, blah"
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
December 29 2009 16:42 GMT
#37
careers are just a 20th century invention, fuck em.
ArmChairCritic
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden36 Posts
December 29 2009 16:55 GMT
#38
If I were looking for a job I would totally put it on my resumé since I would like a CV that atleast stands out among the rest and it can easily serve as an icebreaker.
An intellectual is a person who has found one thing that is more interesting than sex.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
December 29 2009 16:58 GMT
#39
On December 30 2009 01:21 Myxomatosis wrote:
thanks for the advice. looks like i'm not going to put it on. just to clarify it would have been under the heading "Personal" or "Additional Information" (haven't finalized which one i'm going to go with just yet) and in the bullet which went something like "Interests include blah, blah, professional starcraft, blah"

put it on, if they reject you JUST BECAUSE OF IT, then you probably dont want to work for them anyways if they cant accept different people with different interests rofl.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 17:34:57
December 29 2009 17:19 GMT
#40
It all depends on the type and level of job, and how you phrase it/what you choose to highlight.

For college entry mentioning it could be a plus I would think, as an extra "interest". May even mention the school's team & how you'd like to get involved.

For an entry level job it could also be useful if phrased correctly. As others said, the key is to pick the "job-relevant" skill you acquired/improved upon: you can make it into "event organizing" or, in Day9's case "instructional videos and E-Sports commentary" and so on. If you took a Sc trip to Korea and/or did other stuff there that could show you travel well if you present it properly - useful thing in many jobs since some people do horribly at travel. Always make it skill-relevant, else just go with chess, skiing, etc.

For a mid-level or higher job it is a no-no, since by then you should have other activities to highlight your experience. Also, unless you are in the industry, your hobbies should be somewhat relevant (golf, chess, tennis, etc.).

In general, don't add crap to your resume just to make it look longer.
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