EPTStarcraft on a resume - Page 3
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SkylineSC
United States564 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On December 30 2009 02:31 BabyRhino wrote: From my experience this is not true. Personals and interests are amazing conversation builders and things that can direct an interview in ways that keep it very comfortable for you. When going into an interview both sides can usually be very uncomfortable, by having things on there that you enjoy talking about and show that you are a different/interesting individual can be a huge plus.dude why even put "personal" on your resume... "i like dogs, i love baking cookies, i love starcraft", if its irrelevant to the job, don't put it on there. just a piece of resume writing advice. I remember one interview I had some achievement on my resume from my track running days in high school and we ended up talking for like 25 minutes on running because my interviewer used to run in NCAA competition or something. It was crazy haha. And alot of times people in the professional world will remember personal things. Everyone has "Degree X, Certification Y etc" and it's very easy to blend right in with your peers (and get lost in the shuffle) but many times professional people will remember this was the dude who ran a mile in 4:20 or this was the guy who is a scratch golfer. I've never considered putting (or talking) about Starcraft on a resume, primarly because I feel it's still viewed as not a very respectable personal interest and still more of just a "random video game" but in the future this may change. The closest thing I'd consider putting on there is something like chill said, professional gaming or something about e-sports. You could use that to draw a question in an interview and then maybe use starcraft as an example if you really want to but I personally wouldn't. | ||
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SkylineSC
United States564 Posts
people don't want to read the entire resume if its 3 pgs long. keep what you need, and if on a 1 page resume, you can't fill it up with relevant information you have to put down love for videogame, i think its time to build some more credentials. what i'm saying is, videogame should be on your 3rd page of a resume, and usually you don't want to have more than 2 pages. again, unless it is relevant to the job your applying for. AND unless your someone like artosis who has a website, tasteless who commentate for WCG, day[9] who has his own show... just "i made B+ on iccup and is a clanleader" will NOT make you a more competitive applicant. I've never considered putting (or talking) about Starcraft on a resume, primarly because I feel it's still viewed as not a very respectable personal interest and still more of just a "random video game" but in the future this may change. well i think we agree on using SC on a resume. but seriously, put yourself in the interviewer's shoes. and if someone brought up something geeky and you know nothing about. "i'm a regional champ in the pokemon trading card league", are you really gonna draw a conversation? are the odds greater than the interviewer thinking "wow weirdo... next". SC is natural to us but not to the world. | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
As someone who worked with a recruiter for an IT Firm I used to see resumes and the ones that always stood out were ones that were different. Sure some of the "different" ones were different because they were shitty but the best ones were the ones that looked professional yet still stood out for some reason (sometimes due to personal/interests) those ones almost always had a better shot at landing an interview than a bunch of other cookie cutter resumes which get lost in the shuffle VERY easily. It's competitive in the professional world these days. Many people are applying for very few positions, using everything you can to gain an edge is always helpful. You just have to be smart about what you put on there. I have friends who speak multiple languages fluently and have left that stuff off a resume, I was like WHY?! And I agree a resume should never ever be more than 2 pages. | ||
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sky_slasher
United States328 Posts
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On December 30 2009 02:31 BabyRhino wrote: dude why even put "personal" on your resume... "i like dogs, i love baking cookies, i love starcraft", if its irrelevant to the job, don't put it on there. just a piece of resume writing advice. according to my career center it is encouraged to have a section like this where you can detail stuff about yourself which wouldn't really fit in anywhere else (languages spoken, computer skills, interesting facts, travel experience etc.) | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:56 Day[9] wrote: what in the FUCK is wrong with you people. I've made it incredibly far in life by sharing my experiences with starcraft. As long as you know how to talk about it intelligently, then go for it. I mean honestly, how many of you have put starcraft on your resume, and then had the guy go "we'd really like to hire you, but the fact that you have starcraft here makes us hesitate." I was honestly admitted to a billion universities and graduate programs because people were genuinely impressed and curious about my experiences with starcraft. I disagree... I think you're an exception rather than the rule. The difference is that you've traveled around the world by playing SC, have made thousands of $$$ playing this game... so you have much more credibility talking about SC on a resume. a random guy saying "i <3" doesn't have the same appeal. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On December 30 2009 10:41 Xeris wrote: I disagree... I think you're an exception rather than the rule. The difference is that you've traveled around the world by playing SC, have made thousands of $$$ playing this game... so you have much more credibility talking about SC on a resume. a random guy saying "i <3" doesn't have the same appeal. Says xeris, manager of team pandemic - that's a pretty impressive position, especially with the right sell. I remember reading some korean interview about SC and esports, and how now that all of the masses of korean gamers who played during SC's release then are turning into salaried businessmen now. While they obviously didn't think about SC every day anymore, it still brought up a couple of waves of nostalgia for them, and they definitely had some company lunch stories to talk about whenever they got together. Bet it also made for good interview fodder, whenever it came up. If you can manage to portray your love of esports as an endearing quirk as opposed to an awkward character flaw, then by all means go for it. People may think you're crazy for your enthusiasm for a silly 10-year old video game, but it's not like they'll hate you or try to kill you for it. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
But quiong has a good point, no one puts watching NBA or NFL on their resume. Watching Starcraft might be a legitimate interest in line with those, but they all make it sound like you sit on the couch a lot if you're reaching that far for stuff to put. My recommendation is to have a very short list of interests. You want one or two broad things that the employer might have a common interest in, preferably some sort of outdoor activity or sport, and any musical instruments you play. This is usually why things like golf always go over well =/ edit: if your resume is too short, add more experience, elaborate on your duties, add more relevant coursework. The personal interests section should be a line or two at the end. It's the section that says to the employer "you know you want to interview me, here's something non-work related to talk about" | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11583 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On December 30 2009 14:18 CaucasianAsian wrote: I put it down on my resume because I was a news writer and manager (paid position) for Revoltados eSports, and I talked about how it's team oriented and how I had to get stuff done quickly and efficiently. See, this is definitely okay because it makes your resume stronger. But listing "starcraft" under interest adds absolutely nothing. "Basketball" is better, because people understand it's a teamsport, and teamwork is important in some jobs. More likely than not, the person screening your resume will not know what SC is (another story if he happens to be an SC addict like us =\), and this offers nothing. It's even worse if he's heard of it, or have a vague idea about it conjured based on WoW or GTA; and this will make your resume weak. Say what you will, most mid-aged North American men have a strong prejudice against video games and gamers; especially those "hardcore" enough to put it as a strong point on their resume. In Xeris's case -- team manger of Pandemic, the emphasis is clearly on "team", not Starcraft; because "team"-oriented qualities may be useful to the company, not "startcraft". On December 30 2009 01:58 YPang wrote: put it on, if they reject you JUST BECAUSE OF IT, then you probably dont want to work for them anyways if they cant accept different people with different interests rofl. This is not true. The person screening your resume in no way represents the company. Most likely some 20-y.o H.R. is doing the initial screening, and he's sticking to the criteria given to him as tightly as possible so he doesn't get his own ass fired. | ||
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TheosEx
United States894 Posts
Generally, you don't even want to put anything "personal" on your resume, unless the job ad, recruiter, what-have-you asks for it. If you are applying for a job that even requires a college degree or major certification of some sort (i.e. CPA), you definitely don't want to put anything "personal." While what Day[9] said was somewhat true, you always want to stick to the better side of caution. Not everyone will understand your passion. Also, if you are truly worth anything at all to the company, you will require as much as space as necessary to show you are qualified for the job. As in, you should have so many accomplishments, titles, degrees, etc. that you had to spend some time cutting your resume down. To be honest, I love StarCraft myself, but if I was a partner, manager, or recruiter of an even half-way decent firm, and I picked up a resume half of which was composed Education, and a third of Personal Activities which included StarCraft, I would immediately think "Trying to impress me with his education, no real-life experience or accomplishments, and fluffing the rest with personal activities - Trash pile." | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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t_co
United States702 Posts
I also had it on the resume with KKR and Carlyle and a few other traditional PE shops, but they didn't really pay attention to it (except for that Bisu fan from Carlyle Asia lol) | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2923 Posts
Companies don't want the #1 arrogant cocky guy, they're looking for the 2nd best, not cocky etc.. remember you'll be the person they'll have to work with. *depending on what you're applying for, if it's an office type of job where wearing a suit is the general dress code it'll probably not be appreciated too much.. however I'd say for anything else it's cool. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
If it comes up in the interview if you can show passion, initiative and thoughtfulness even in a hobby that's a positive imo. Ofcourse it can also crash and burn and you sound like a doofus Bit of a risk! | ||
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