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Have you ever sued someone?

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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 19 2009 06:37 GMT
#1
It's kind of a complicated story, and I don't feel like writing it out right now. Suffice to say, I might need to sue someone for breach of contract.

It's kind of an overwhelming thing. For one thing, I guess I need to find a lawyer. How on Earth am I supposed to find the best lawyer for this? I have no idea how to tell whether a lawyer is good or not. I could just go for whoever is the cheapest, although that seems a little strange. The lawyer I talked to today said he'd take my case, but he charges $200/hour ><.

And how long does this take? I've heard of some lawsuits that go on for 20 years. I hope I don't have to do that. Actually, I'm just really hoping the other guy gives in if I tell him that I'm prepared to do this.

It should be possible for a private citizen to do a lawsuit himself, right? I read about one guy who was falsely imprisoned, so he taught himself law from the prison library, wrote a letter to the supreme court, and they overturned his conviction. But yeah... I have absolutely no idea how to do this. Any lawyers on this forum want to take my case pro bono ?

*
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
November 19 2009 06:43 GMT
#2
Well how much money would the lawsuit be for? Unless it's several thousand dollars or more I don't think it's usually worth it from my little knowledge of the subject. There are some lawyers like Hot_Bid on TL though so maybe they know something.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 19 2009 06:46 GMT
#3
it would be for about $10,000
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
November 19 2009 06:46 GMT
#4
thisll be settled in Civil court, meaning ur only looking for reparations for damages. you're not looking to put anyone in jail, thats criminal court.

civil is private individuals, so yes you can do it. find a lawyer that specializes in contractual law if its really complicated, otherwise any general practice lawyer will do.

any details on what the breach of contract was? i might be able to help.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
November 19 2009 06:50 GMT
#5
also as far as finding a lawyer: yellow pages bro.
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 19 2009 06:55 GMT
#6
You probably won't find a pro-bono lawyer, but there might be someone who will give you some advise on how to proceed.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 19 2009 06:56 GMT
#7
No I have not.
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lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
November 19 2009 06:57 GMT
#8
1. Lawsuits are expensive...
2. Don't be a pro se litigant...you will lose
3. Make sure you can recover damages>attorney fees. Barring special circumstances, you will pay for your attorney even if you win (in US).
4. (I dunno if they do this in contract cases) Ask for a contingency fee? You only pay if you win and this is a % of your recovery.

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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 19 2009 07:06 GMT
#9
On November 19 2009 15:50 mOnion wrote:
also as far as finding a lawyer: yellow pages bro.

That was what I did this afternoon, and it was really overwhelming. There's so many lawyers to choose from, and I really have no idea how to find a good one.

As for details. Well, basically I think I got scammed. Either the guy deliberately scammed me, or he's just incompetent, I'm not sure which. Anyway, I signed a contract with him, and as a result I lost quite a bit of money. Some other people did too, so I might be able to work together with them.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 07:14:30
November 19 2009 07:14 GMT
#10
On November 19 2009 16:06 Luddite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 15:50 mOnion wrote:
also as far as finding a lawyer: yellow pages bro.

That was what I did this afternoon, and it was really overwhelming. There's so many lawyers to choose from, and I really have no idea how to find a good one.

As for details. Well, basically I think I got scammed. Either the guy deliberately scammed me, or he's just incompetent, I'm not sure which. Anyway, I signed a contract with him, and as a result I lost quite a bit of money. Some other people did too, so I might be able to work together with them.


um

your probably in trouble

common law doesn't protect people who stupidly enter into a contract :/
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
November 19 2009 07:19 GMT
#11
On November 19 2009 15:57 lvatural wrote:
3. Make sure you can recover damages>attorney fees. Barring special circumstances, you will pay for your attorney even if you win (in US).


this. your most likely only gonna get compensatory damages. so if you lost 10k, you'll get 10k back, but you dont get compensation for court fees and ur lawyer.
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lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
November 19 2009 07:22 GMT
#12
On November 19 2009 16:14 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 16:06 Luddite wrote:
On November 19 2009 15:50 mOnion wrote:
also as far as finding a lawyer: yellow pages bro.

That was what I did this afternoon, and it was really overwhelming. There's so many lawyers to choose from, and I really have no idea how to find a good one.

As for details. Well, basically I think I got scammed. Either the guy deliberately scammed me, or he's just incompetent, I'm not sure which. Anyway, I signed a contract with him, and as a result I lost quite a bit of money. Some other people did too, so I might be able to work together with them.


um

your probably in trouble

common law doesn't protect people who stupidly enter into a contract :/


What are you...a first year law student?

I have no idea how you can come to this conclusion on the few facts he has given.
It seems like you are making a lot of unwarranted assumptions.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
November 19 2009 07:24 GMT
#13
On November 19 2009 16:22 lvatural wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 16:14 mOnion wrote:
On November 19 2009 16:06 Luddite wrote:
On November 19 2009 15:50 mOnion wrote:
also as far as finding a lawyer: yellow pages bro.

That was what I did this afternoon, and it was really overwhelming. There's so many lawyers to choose from, and I really have no idea how to find a good one.

As for details. Well, basically I think I got scammed. Either the guy deliberately scammed me, or he's just incompetent, I'm not sure which. Anyway, I signed a contract with him, and as a result I lost quite a bit of money. Some other people did too, so I might be able to work together with them.


um

your probably in trouble

common law doesn't protect people who stupidly enter into a contract :/


What are you...a first year law student?

I have no idea how you can come to this conclusion on the few facts he has given.
It seems like you are making a lot of unwarranted assumptions.


im not law, im just studying Business Law for my Finance degree. so I'm no expert. but from what I understand, courts arent empathetic towards ppl who enter into a contract that ends up backfiring, unless they were tricked into it.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
November 19 2009 07:38 GMT
#14
Sounds like he was tricked
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ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
November 19 2009 07:45 GMT
#15
without more details we can't really be sure how to proceed for you...

there are just so many variables that need to be considered (I'm a law graduate)

: o )
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
November 19 2009 07:48 GMT
#16
On November 19 2009 16:45 ShloobeR wrote:
without more details we can't really be sure how to proceed for you...

there are just so many variables that need to be considered (I'm a law graduate)



ignore me. listen to this guy.
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 18:37:48
November 19 2009 08:05 GMT
#17
Let me get this straight.

You refuse to reveal what this predicament is about. However you call upon the resources of TL to help you? You refuse to tell TL an specifics but assure us it's worth our time?
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 19 2009 08:17 GMT
#18
On November 19 2009 16:14 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 16:06 Luddite wrote:
On November 19 2009 15:50 mOnion wrote:
also as far as finding a lawyer: yellow pages bro.

That was what I did this afternoon, and it was really overwhelming. There's so many lawyers to choose from, and I really have no idea how to find a good one.

As for details. Well, basically I think I got scammed. Either the guy deliberately scammed me, or he's just incompetent, I'm not sure which. Anyway, I signed a contract with him, and as a result I lost quite a bit of money. Some other people did too, so I might be able to work together with them.


um

your probably in trouble

common law doesn't protect people who stupidly enter into a contract :/

Really? It doesn't protect me when the other guy fails to live up to his part of the contract? That seems like kind of the whole point of having a contract/law system.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 19 2009 08:19 GMT
#19
On November 19 2009 17:05 Snet wrote:
Let me get this straight.

You refuse to reveal what this predicament is about. However you call upon the resources of TL to help you? You refuse to tell TL an specifics but assure us it's worth our time?

You say your lawyer charges ~200$ a hour?

What the fuck have you done, sir?

You ask, but do not wait?

To be honest, I wasn't really expecting TL to help me with this. I was just curious if anyone else had been through something like this. I might post the full story later, I'm not sure. And the $200/hour was just a figure that he quoted to me, and he was the first lawyer I've ever talked to. I haven't paid him anything.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
November 19 2009 08:29 GMT
#20
when you sue someone can't you sue him to pay for your lawyer too? after all you wouldn't need to contract one if wasn't for him...
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