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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
Last week on Wednesday is where I started getting sick. I figured it was just a regular flu. Well, if it turns out that she has the H1N1 variation, I'm the likely person to have spread it to her..... Fucking fantastic. And instead of getting a doctors note for deferrals of my exams, I chose to study for them and fail.....   | ||
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ilovezil
United States4143 Posts
\(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed. Funny you have this as your quote... | ||
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
swanky name and a different shot? | ||
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SkylineSC
United States564 Posts
if a flu kills 10,000 people each year for a decade no one cares. some new flue comes and kill 10,000, everyone freak. | ||
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Cube
Canada777 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
But all jokes aside, I had the flu (no idea if it was swine flu or not) but my immune system destroyed it and I seem to be okay now. Haven't showered for 3 days, but I'm better at least. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
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SteelString
446 Posts
Advice: take vitamins - especially One A Days, for general health, and also a B complex (I prefer B-100). Eat your fruits and veggies... seriously, it's beatable. Get a lot of sleep, take Ibuprofen, etc. Good luck! All these things in combination really improve your chances of getting better quickly. | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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9287
United States134 Posts
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
On November 04 2009 12:48 9287 wrote: my girlfriend had swine flu and i didn't even get it and we live together...... I don't even live together with my girlfriend and I went over the first day I was sick and I gave it to her | ||
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SkylineSC
United States564 Posts
On November 04 2009 12:35 lazz wrote: flu kills way more than 10000 people a year, but i understand your point for the purpose of illustration ya i didn't konw the exact numbers... but my guestimate wasn't too bad. number of zeros are right :p | ||
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Kingfisher
Canada144 Posts
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micronesia
United States24698 Posts
On November 04 2009 12:50 Kingfisher wrote: I heard if your fever is over 38 degrees Celsius, it's a swine flu. The symptoms are much worse as well. Many of my friends have it. This doesn't make sense... you can get that much fever for almost anything... | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On November 04 2009 12:30 Spike wrote: say, what's the difference b/w swine flu and the flu. swanky name and a different shot? Humans just have less of an immunity against swine flu. Since it's flu from pigs, humans haven't grown an immune system that's strong against it. OP, drink a LOT of water, sleep, and vitamin C. | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
Edit - Because if she were hot I wouldn't care about getting the flu from her. And go see a doctor, good man. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ +pubmed studies Vitamin D has immunomodulatory effects including increasing cathelicidin and defensins 1 &2 which are anti-microbial peptides. Plus, it also activates T lymphocytes. Vitamin C doesn't do anything. Don't take it. Hydrate well Sleep a lot. You should be fine. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
LOL. I know. On November 04 2009 12:58 sArite_nite wrote: is your roommate hot? She's got a boyfriend, if that's what you're thinking..... Guys, I'm not worried about dying. If I have it, I've had it for nearly a week now..... Maybe longer. And I'm still kickin. It just blows - studying and writing exams while sick, and doing poorly on them, only to find out I could have had them deferred..... They're giving out notes for H1N1 faster than people gave out candy for Halloween..... | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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reincremate
China2214 Posts
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:03 lMPERVlOUS wrote: She's got a boyfriend, if that's what you're thinking..... Clear dodge. I take it as a yes? | ||
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
On November 04 2009 12:49 BabyRhino wrote: ya i didn't konw the exact numbers... but my guestimate wasn't too bad. number of zeros are right :p actually it kills in the 100's of thousands worldwide a year so you were only one digit off! :-p | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:00 eshlow wrote: Take some vitamin D. No, NOT vitamin C.... vitamin D. + Show Spoiler + http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ +pubmed studies Vitamin D has immunomodulatory effects including increasing cathelicidin and defensins 1 &2 which are anti-microbial peptides. Plus, it also activates T lymphocytes. Vitamin C doesn't do anything. Don't take it. Hydrate well Sleep a lot. You should be fine. Vitamin D is relatively nonpolar => only soluble in hydrocarbons = lipids => too much of it = bad since your body produces it naturally, taking vitamin D supplements is usually not a good idea (unless you have some low-vitamin-d defect............) Vitamin C you can take a shitload of because its soluble in water | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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Coca Cola Classic
266 Posts
I think the location of cellular receptors is important too, although I am not quite sure. Also, why not take vitamin C? It isn't like it's adversely affecting you. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:16 Meta wrote: You better hope Banzu doesn't read this thread, he might give you shit. I might have had swine flu a few weeks ago, and it was pretty bad for about 3 days but after that it went away pretty quickly. I didn't think it was quite as bad as people make it out to be, if that's what it was. Still PMSing over that? Read page 1. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:00 eshlow wrote: Take some vitamin D. No, NOT vitamin C.... vitamin D. + Show Spoiler + http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ +pubmed studies Vitamin D has immunomodulatory effects including increasing cathelicidin and defensins 1 &2 which are anti-microbial peptides. Plus, it also activates T lymphocytes. Vitamin C doesn't do anything. Don't take it. Hydrate well Sleep a lot. You should be fine. Oh wow, I've been tricked :[ You make it sound like it's detrimental to take Vitamin C though -_- Just stay healthy. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:13 synapse wrote: Vitamin D is relatively nonpolar => only soluble in hydrocarbons = lipids => too much of it = bad since your body produces it naturally, taking vitamin D supplements is usually not a good idea (unless you have some low-vitamin-d defect............) Vitamin C you can take a shitload of because its soluble in water Vitamin D is indeed a fat soluble hormone. I am not seeing how you can have "too much" in a short amount of time though especially if you're extreme conservative with dosing. There's studies where they megadosed 100,000 IU to children with no ill effects. Pharmacological dose is bodyweight in lbs * 1000 / 3 per 3 days. So 150 lbs = 150,000 IU/3 = 50,000 IU per day over 3 days. That's how much they'd give you in the hospital if they found you were deficient during an illness. I went conservative when I had to the flu and took 20,000 IU/day. Cleared it up pretty quickly. From the IRL people I've recommended it to I've had about 80-90% success rate with respiratory infections (overall). And it just so happens ~80-90% of the population is deficient or severely deficient. For reference I've been taking 10,000 IU a day for 6 weeks now with no ill effects. Switched down to 5,000 IU now and I'm still fine. No overdose symptoms in the slightest. Since most people are deficient, most people would likely benefit from supplementing. Especially now that it's winter when there's not a lot of sun out. | ||
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micronesia
United States24698 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:07 Ingenol wrote: The reason swine flu is receiving so much press is that otherwise healthy people can die from it, whereas typically the flu--although it does kill a significant number of people annually-preys on the sick/elderly. Isn't this a misconception? Didn't the people who died from swine flu mostly have pre-existing conditions that the media conveniently 'missed' in the uproar? | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:26 BanZu wrote: Oh wow, I've been tricked :[ You make it sound like it's detrimental to take Vitamin C though -_- Just stay healthy. There's no benefit. Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant. If you can figure out how an anti-oxidant helps respiratory infections be my guest. You can search pubmed as well for studies supporting your conclusion but there won't be any. However, there are a massive amount of studies for Vitamin D and respiratory infections. It's unfortunate, because the media popularitized Vitamin C for.... everything. Which is totally incorrect. They should've popularized Vitamin D since so many people are deficient. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:13 synapse wrote: Vitamin D is relatively nonpolar => only soluble in hydrocarbons = lipids => too much of it = bad since your body produces it naturally, taking vitamin D supplements is usually not a good idea (unless you have some low-vitamin-d defect............) Vitamin C you can take a shitload of because its soluble in water Most people become deficient in the fall/winter. Your body only produces it naturally when you're exposed to UV-B rays, which can't penetrate the atmosphere when the sun's at a low angle. You can get like 10000 IU (maybe 20k) per day from sun exposure alone before your body stops producing it for the day, so it's probably pretty hard to overdo it. edit: though the tan you'd get from it would reduce future UV-B absorption, so 10k IU per day might not be sustainable. edit2: v---- This is still flu-related! :p | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:32 eshlow wrote: Vitamin D is indeed a fat soluble hormone. I am not seeing how you can have "too much" in a short amount of time though especially if you're extreme conservative with dosing. There's studies where they megadosed 100,000 IU to children with no ill effects. Pharmacological dose is bodyweight in lbs * 1000 / 3 per 3 days. So 150 lbs = 150,000 IU/3 = 50,000 IU per day over 3 days. That's how much they'd give you in the hospital if they found you were deficient during an illness. I went conservative when I had to the flu and took 20,000 IU/day. Cleared it up pretty quickly. From the IRL people I've recommended it to I've had about 80-90% success rate with respiratory infections (overall). And it just so happens ~80-90% of the population is deficient or severely deficient. For reference I've been taking 10,000 IU a day for 6 weeks now with no ill effects. Switched down to 5,000 IU now and I'm still fine. No overdose symptoms in the slightest. Since most people are deficient, most people would likely benefit from supplementing. Especially now that it's winter when there's not a lot of sun out. Theoretically, it's the same reason that vitamin A can kill you if you take too much of it - you only have so much fat to store your vitamin D in; taking in too much vitamin D will saturate your lipids with stuff you don't necessarily need. Thus, Vitamin D is beneficial, but only in relatively small amounts. Though I guess your case(s) do(es) kind of prove otherwise  ? | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On November 04 2009 13:00 eshlow wrote: Take some vitamin D. No, NOT vitamin C.... vitamin D. + Show Spoiler + http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ +pubmed studies Vitamin D has immunomodulatory effects including increasing cathelicidin and defensins 1 &2 which are anti-microbial peptides. Plus, it also activates T lymphocytes. Vitamin C doesn't do anything. Don't take it. Hydrate well Sleep a lot. You should be fine. Because an increased antimicrobial capability would help to fight off a virus amirite? But anyway being sick sucks, i hope you get better soon. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 04 2009 14:51 ghermination wrote: Because an increased antimicrobial capability would help to fight off a virus amirite? But anyway being sick sucks, i hope you get better soon. Uh, wrong. Just because a molecule is classified as an antimicrobial peptide (AMP) doesn't mean it doesn't exert anti-fungal and anti-viral effects. It just so happens that cathelicidin actually DOES ergogenically enhance immunity against influenza among other respiratory infections. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18424743 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18377099 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17113647 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16909921 Modulation of T-lymphocytes increases immunity against both viruses and bacteria. On November 04 2009 14:17 synapse wrote: Theoretically, it's the same reason that vitamin A can kill you if you take too much of it - you only have so much fat to store your vitamin D in; taking in too much vitamin D will saturate your lipids with stuff you don't necessarily need. Thus, Vitamin D is beneficial, but only in relatively small amounts. Though I guess your case(s) do(es) kind of prove otherwise ?If you read the article I linked up there I listed several studies showing that 10,000 IU for several months was not toxic and being consider by FDA/NIH to be the "safe" proposed upper limit within the next year or two. ----------------- Sonuvbob has it right. Although I have seen a couple different studies showing that our bodies only produce 10,000 IU per day in sunlight or 20,000 IU/day. So I don't know which one is correct but... 10,000 IU is probably better if you wanna be on the safe side I guess. I referenced that one. So anyway, take your Vitamin D!! | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
On November 04 2009 17:07 Loanshark wrote: Guess you're not IMPERVIOUS to that. ![[image loading]](http://www.bgstudios.com/images/Impervious.jpg) If you haven`t noticed - I`m not dead, nor likely to have any lasting effects, therefore, it`s still true  | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On November 04 2009 17:24 lMPERVlOUS wrote: If you haven`t noticed - I`m not dead, nor likely to have any lasting effects, therefore, it`s still true Impervious also means not allowing entrance or passage so I think he was correct indeed. Btw what's with the capitals dude it's painful to look at. | ||
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Vharox
United States1037 Posts
Regular flu was 1000x worse. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
On November 04 2009 17:42 resonance wrote: Impervious also means not allowing entrance or passage so I think he was correct indeed. Btw what's with the capitals dude it's painful to look at. It's because there are no "i"'s in my name. I use a lowercase "L" to hide it. It's the exact same name I use on ICCUP and East (as well as some other websites). | ||
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~Legit~
United States408 Posts
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micronesia
United States24698 Posts
On November 05 2009 04:54 ~Legit~ wrote: I had flu a couple of weeks ago. Some of the worst days of my life of course. Hate getting the flu. Nothing is worse then being nauseous with cold sweats, and everything hurts. On the flip side though, after feeling so bad for a couple of weeks, now feeling normal is great! I'm gonna go out on a limb and say food poisoning is worse... but I totally get your point XD Luckily I've never had anything wosre than that, or at least not yet... | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
FUUUUUUUU.... | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On November 04 2009 17:47 Vharox wrote: I had swine flu. Regular flu was 1000x worse. Agreed. Not puking makes it a lot better. That being said having 100-102 temp for 3 days and a bad cough isn't exactly comfortable. | ||
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