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Deleted User 3420
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I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier. I am not really looking for anything very long term, I just need a place to live and a source of income to pay back my debts. I want to become a monk after my debts have been paid. Any opinions/experiences? Thanks    | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
On October 09 2009 04:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: poker rounder->ninja->airforce->monk Yes. sounds like a Neverwinter Nights hero class to me | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Yizuo
Germany1537 Posts
You could try some normal work, it will probably take you longer to pay your debts... | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Maybe it's hard in these times but there are still jobs out there | ||
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zeppelin
United States565 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33144 Posts
On October 09 2009 04:42 travis wrote: I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier. ....seriously? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
My parents don't want me to keep playing poker, they aren't very fair about it as their expectations of what I should be doing to pay back this debt are not reasonable and they do not give any suggestions to me other than the military. I can't go to college and I don't really want to anyways I do not want a long term career, I just want to pay back this debt. As for joining the air force, my parents claim it is unlikely I would ever be put in a place of combat, I don't really know. I know that the air force accomplishes many good things for people, as well as the bad. I looked at the pamphlet thing my mom brought home and this pararescue job looks interesting, though I guess that would involve being put in combat situations and I don't want to have to shoot anyone. Frankly I don't need or even want much from life, I am a jaded though peaceful person who rarely feels strong emotions either way. I just want to settle my past so that I don't have to bother about it anymore, and so I can be independent. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:13 motbob wrote: Military is awesome, go join if you're willing to be sent overseas to Iraq. Because you will be. Great benefits, though. do you actually know what you are talking about though? do airmen have a high rate of being sent off to warzones? by soldier I mean someone who takes orders, an "enlisted person". I do not mean the stereotype soldier, a member of the army. air force technicians are still soldiers. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 09 2009 04:46 disciple wrote: sounds like a Neverwinter Nights hero class to me lmao On October 09 2009 05:00 zeppelin wrote: what about the peace corps or americorps? I would like that, but from the small amount of research I did, it sounded like it wasn't a good way to make money, or that if anything it would *cost* me money to do. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On October 09 2009 04:49 Yizuo wrote: Joining the Air Force is supporting the Air Force and it's actions imo. If you are a peaceful person you shouldn't do it. As a citizen, he's already supporting the Air Force. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
What are you trying to say? | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
the closest you get to combat in the 3 i suggested: Air Force: Transport Army personnel and equipment to Iraq/Afghanistan or fly bombing missions there. Navy: Operate on a ship in the ocean near Iraq/Afghanistan or fly bombing missions there (yes the Navy has it's own air capabilities). Coast Guard: Search and Rescue or Drug Interdiction in the Gulf of Mexico. if anyone else thinks i missed something, feel free to add. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
People who join the air force in New Zealand never have to face combat because we have no combat aircraft lol. | ||
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
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StalinRusH
United States734 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:37 Xeris wrote: I'm confused on how you plan on making it through life if you dont want to go to school or get a job if anyone finds this out please let me know | ||
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:45 StalinRusH wrote: if anyone finds this out please let me know it's called being homeless | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4332 Posts
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:18 travis wrote: do you actually know what you are talking about though? do airmen have a high rate of being sent off to warzones? by soldier I mean someone who takes orders, an "enlisted person". I do not mean the stereotype soldier, a member of the army. air force technicians are still soldiers. There's a reason why Air Force is often joked around and referred to as the Chairforce. Like the Navy, the Air Force has little to no fighting or combat unless you are a pilot or a marine/navy seal. Being enlisted in the Air Force you will more than likely spend the better part of your enlistment working on jets or helicopters specializing in a certain part or engine, and making sure equipment is combat ready. Being as the majority of the Air Force are not in combat on a daily basis they aren't as lenient with recruitment. In face, the Air Force is one of the most competitive branches to get into at the moment because of their technical positions and the fact they don't need a bunch of grunts to send into the sand pit. If you are just looking for a paycheck I would suggest talking to recruiters for the Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard. You will be almost guaranteed not to die or end your enlistment with less body parts than you started. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
http://www.navy.mil/swf/index.asp | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:45 mucker wrote: teach english in korea? my little sister was there for two years, saved up almost $30k because the school covered her rent and fed her breakfast and lunch every day in addition to her pay. she didn't speak any korean before she went there either. she couldn't get a job in the USA she was happy with and just moved back again and scored an even sweeter setup this time. not sure if she is just super lucky or if it really is that easy... She is definitely super lucky; plenty of people have had really bad experiences as well, although perhaps some of the Korea-located denizens could help him avoid this. I think in general though without a college degree he wouldn't be eligible for many positions. How large is the debt if we may ask? And what stakes do you play--so we can get an idea how long it could take to repay it. | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:37 Xeris wrote: I'm confused on how you plan on making it through life if you dont want to go to school or get a job this are these debts you owe to certain people or student loan debts? | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:18 travis wrote: do you actually know what you are talking about though? do airmen have a high rate of being sent off to warzones? Yeah, man. You won't be sent into danger, probably, but you will be sent in some capacity. | ||
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Try
United States1293 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On October 09 2009 06:11 Try wrote: Coast guard imo. Being navy enlisted sucks. Most Navy enlisted guys are retarded. Trust me, from personal experience. And also, air force benefits suck. They, along with the marine corps, have the longest promotion waits and lowest sign-on bonuses. I would also HIGHLY recommend army intel. Hell, if you sign on as army intel, they will pay u a 25k enlistment bonus and teach you korean, and then send you to South Korea to interpret radio signals from North Korea. You just have to pass a very basic intelligence test. Check out MOS 35 in army. As long as your a reasonably bright guy who doesn't mind saying "good morning sir" 4034302484 times a day, you'll make a great intel soldier. At least joining to Navy means that there is one less retarded now  | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
as for how i plan to live without a job, I already said, I plan on becoming a monk. consider that a job, if you want to. as of now I am very interested in this monastery: http://www.abhayagiri.org/ | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:56 Ingenol wrote: She is definitely super lucky; plenty of people have had really bad experiences as well, although perhaps some of the Korea-located denizens could help him avoid this. I think in general though without a college degree he wouldn't be eligible for many positions. How large is the debt if we may ask? And what stakes do you play--so we can get an idea how long it could take to repay it. about 15,000 to businesses. about 50,000 more on top of that to other poker players. the 15,000 is the pressing issue though I would like to pay it all, obviously. the stakes I play isn't relevant, poker is more competitive and I am less competitive and it was never really a right match for me in the first place. | ||
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Makhno
Sweden585 Posts
It's really sad to see people having to join the military because there are no jobs. But I guess if you find something useful to do it could be a good experience. I really don't find it shocking you want to become a monk and I think you'll make a good one. Best of luck! | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
I've had thoughts of joining the military and this line of thought is basically where I ended up. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:24 travis wrote: I dunno, maybe I'll get eaten by a lion? What are you trying to say? That you seem to change your mind on what you want from life frequently and really radically. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32034 Posts
Less risk than other military jobs, but I wouldn't use the word 'safe' in regards to any military position. Plus, you're still always a number—if you somehow get stationed in the States and they suddenly have a bunch of voids in Iraq, you get to go, even if you didnt sign up for that specific job in that area. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On October 09 2009 06:17 travis wrote: ty for the rpelies everyone this has already been helpful as for how i plan to live without a job, I already said, I plan on becoming a monk. consider that a job, if you want to. as of now I am very interested in this monastery: http://www.abhayagiri.org/ that sounds awesome, I just find it so weird that a monastery has a website... that seems so anti-monk O_O! | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On October 09 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote: Oh yea no drugs of course (don't even say you've tried weed it'll disqualify you for shit) I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo I laugh at this because some POLICE departments hire you even if you've smoked weed before. I'm surprised the Military is so picky with all the bitching they do about amount of people they need. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On October 09 2009 07:34 Jayme wrote: I laugh at this because some POLICE departments hire you even if you've smoked weed before. I'm surprised the Military is so picky with all the bitching they do about amount of people they need. I think it's more about the fact that someone has balls to tell them that; edit: and how retarded he has to be to do that, is there a position in Police where one actually kills people on a daily basis? Even SWAT isn't as dangerous as real war imo. On October 09 2009 06:39 Kennigit wrote: Travis please trust me on this. Unless you have an actual desire to serve in the military beyond monetary compensation, DO. NOT. DO. IT. You need to WANT to do the job and you will get weeded out in a few weeks of training unless you actually have the desire to serve. Even though I've been through ridiculously outdated and meaningless compulsory service (wtf, is it really 10 years after we joined NATO?) I second this. | ||
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LonGGone
121 Posts
If you want to do something religious wise and still be part of the military you can always ask the recruiter if you can be a Chaplains assistant. You will be working directly for and with the Chaplain, whom is usually a Captain or higher . I also would like to add that if u and some1 else is applying for a job and you both show the same qualities except one of you has prior military experience; that person is more then likely to be gauranteed the position. GG | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On October 09 2009 07:45 beetlelisk wrote: I think it's more about the fact that someone has balls to tell them that; edit: and how retarded he has to be to do that, is there a position in Police where one actually kills people on a daily basis? Even SWAT isn't as dangerous as real war imo. Uh you take a lie detector test when you join the more major police departments so they WILL find out bro. Also if you think killing people on a daily basis actually has any direct relationship to how dangerous a job is in this circumstance you're rather ignorant of police work. Police officer is dangerous shit because in the grand scheme of things you know what to expect in a war... with Police a routine traffic stop can turn into a gun fight. I guess by and large war would be more dangerous but I don't know what it being dangerous or not has to do with smoking weed back when they were like 15. | ||
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LonGGone
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Ingenol
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floor exercise
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LonGGone
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On October 09 2009 08:37 Ingenol wrote: I don't know why but for the first time I just realized how disgusting it is that there are religious positions (chaplain, etc.) in the army. I guess I never really thought about it before. Why is it disgusting? Chaplains are a great asset to the military. They help soldiers and even there spouses through many issues. Chaplains are basically counselors, they are there for emotional/motivational support and religious guidance. You'd be suprised how many soldiers go to a chaplain to talk about even issues not even related to the military. Oh and chaplains dont carry weapons. So i dont see how they are even remotely disgusting. For some reason i found that comment offensive and im not even religious. | ||
Last Romantic
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On October 09 2009 08:01 Jayme wrote: Uh you take a lie detector test when you join the more major police departments so they WILL find out bro. Also if you think killing people on a daily basis actually has any direct relationship to how dangerous a job is in this circumstance you're rather ignorant of police work. Police officer is dangerous shit because in the grand scheme of things you know what to expect in a war... with Police a routine traffic stop can turn into a gun fight. I guess by and large war would be more dangerous but I don't know what it being dangerous or not has to do with smoking weed back when they were like 15. I meant things like friendly fire more, what LonGGone wrote too. I don't think lie detectors are used in courts for example, they aren't 100% accurate + those telling lies about drugs may not consider it lies themselves if they believe strong enough that their past usage has no affect at their future job at all. | ||
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ccou
United States681 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On October 09 2009 09:09 Last Romantic wrote: I am so glad CM is not in the air force I am so glad LR is not a mod. Nice offhanded comment wtf? You're retarded because 9 out of 10 of the people in the military are dumb ass rednecks already, you've seen the ridiculous videos soldiers post on youtube right? | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
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RoadTrippin
United States48 Posts
On October 09 2009 10:53 CharlieMurphy wrote: I am so glad LR is not a mod. Nice offhanded comment wtf? You're retarded because 9 out of 10 of the people in the military are dumb ass rednecks already, you've seen the ridiculous videos soldiers post on youtube right? Can't believe how immature/ignorant you are... Pisses me off so much how you talk shit like that to the guys who's fighting the war for our country. Especially on the fact that those 9 out of 10 people in the military will without a thought gladly take a bullet on your behave even after you saying those comments about them. I swear people talking like that really makes me feel sorry for my fucking brothers/friends that lost their fucking life on your behave.. Can't believe you really are not banned for that comment.. BTW my apologies for the off-topic on your blog.. | ||
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Headlines
United States482 Posts
My AVG Free didn't catch any viruses, so I'm guessing the site is ok. The article is only a teaser though. The real treats are the links at the bottom of the page. I would say they're fairly accurate, and very well written. Lots of information for you my friend, hope I helped out! Oh, and my brother is currently a captain in the Air Force right now. He first tried to enlist as a pilot, but they said his color blindness (which was very weak) prevented him from becoming one. So he became a maintenance officer, and he hated that job. Now he's into contracting which is pretty much about talking with potential clients, writing forms, sitting at the desk all day, etc. Boring, but I'm guessing it pays well enough because he's got a nice house in Virginia, bought his wife a new van, able to support his two kids, and goes to work from 7 a.m. to 4 - 6 p.m. with weekends off. Not bad if you ask me. He's in Iraq right now, but I'm not too worried about him. He wrote that all he does is stay in base, and all the clients come to him. I asked him to take pictures of Baghdad, but I doubt he will | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
I am just concerned about your reason for joining, because you will need alot of motivation to get you through it. Best of luck if you decide to go in though. | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
If its personal or whatever thats fine .Also, good luck figuring out what you want to do. You and I are on a very similar boat... | ||
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
If you don't think you can do that then please... don't waste your time. Apply to some supermarket or fast food chain. | ||
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iNcontroL
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
even though you hate me we are one | ||
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Hittegods
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Rekrul
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On October 09 2009 06:57 Kennigit wrote: Travis if you make it through basic ill pay all your debts. Actually no i wont but that's how convinced i am you aren't going to survive basic. Just because you are a clerk doesn't mean you get any different treatment going in. Maybe I don't know Travis so well, but how hard is it to make it through basic? I don't know about the Army, but judging from my own experience in the Marines you have to TRY to get kicked out of recruit training. Aside from going in with drugs in your system, the only way to get kicked out is to have a total emotional breakdown or something. I remember being quite disgusted with some of the total turd-buckets that they graduated in our platoon. It totally devalued the experience for me, that just about anyone can join and whine and bitch and cry their way through boot camp and still graduate. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On October 09 2009 20:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: what about filing for bankruptcy? If you are going to be a monk for your life credit doesn't matter.. lol this is actually a pretty awesome idea. If you move into a monastery or buddhist temple I guess you don't need eartly possessions or make money to get by. SO just fuck money and become a monk, oh and please write a auto-biography when you are older | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On October 09 2009 21:45 Hittegods wrote: I don't think monks are allowed to drink, gamble and sleep around. Otherwise everyone would do it. Why would everyone do it otherwise lol Can you see yourself meditating 10 hours / day? | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Track
United States217 Posts
Don't go into the USAF unless you're prepared to work doing something you're almost assuredly going to hate doing for 4 years, prepared to take orders from someone you don't like at all, treated poorly, and paid poorly. I'm not saying all of the above happen, but it happens often enough that you have to be prepared to accept it if you're thinking of joining the service. | ||
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
And they aren't going to let you be a linguist unless you qualify for a top secret security clearance. | ||
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Track
United States217 Posts
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On October 10 2009 02:55 Track wrote: Yeah, cryptolinguistics is ALSO a really hard billet to get, and you also can't get it with a 4 year enlistment, only with a 6 year. The training takes over a year at Monterey Bay at the Defense Language Institute. Does the Air Force let you contract for a job specialty before you enlist? In the Marines all you have to do is get appropriate scores on the DLAB and ASVAB and qualify for a TS. If you don't meet those requirements, you can walk away without even signing up. You may not end up doing exactly what you wanted, but whatever you do will be within that field. i.e. you might not end up working on avionics, but you might work on the electrical systems of guided missiles or vice versa. I don't know if the Air Force works differently in this respect, though. | ||
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Tenryu
United States565 Posts
On October 10 2009 02:46 Track wrote: Don't go into the USAF unless you're prepared to work doing something you're almost assuredly going to hate doing for 4 years, prepared to take orders from someone you don't like at all, treated poorly, and paid poorly. Idk about you but im happy as fuck with my pay in the Army. And i know ALOOOOOTTTTTT of people who have reenlisted just because of the Army's benefit's alone. Specially the married soldiers with dependents. Not sure if pay is much different from the Air Force with the Army though. But from what ive seen from workin on a Airforce base in Okinawa was that the rank structure is ridicolously laid back. I hear fuckin E3's talkin to E7's and officers like they were homies.. very interesting | ||
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On October 10 2009 05:46 Tenryu wrote: Idk about you but im happy as fuck with my pay in the Army. And i know ALOOOOOTTTTTT of people who have reenlisted just because of the Army's benefit's alone. Specially the married soldiers with dependents. Not sure if pay is much different from the Air Force with the Army though. But from what ive seen from workin on a Airforce base in Okinawa was that the rank structure is ridicolously laid back. I hear fuckin E3's talkin to E7's and officers like they were homies.. very interesting Yep. They're much more like a big corporation than the rest of the military. Were you at Ft. Buckner? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 09 2009 16:40 HuskyTheHusky wrote: I'm sorry if this is normal knowledge or has been posted somewhere else, just curious as to what town you live in seeing as how I live in Oregon as well. If its personal or whatever thats fine .Also, good luck figuring out what you want to do. You and I are on a very similar boat... i used to live in Medford, now i live in Sunny Valley(what an awesome name). On October 09 2009 21:21 Rekrul wrote: can i be a monk with you travis even though you hate me we are one I can't stop you even if I wanted to I don't hate you | ||
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iNcontroL
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Tenryu
United States565 Posts
On October 10 2009 05:57 Neverborn wrote: Yep. They're much more like a big corporation than the rest of the military. Were you at Ft. Buckner? Yeh the Airforce is more of a workforce then a military from what ive seen. Nah, im US Army but i lived on Kadena Airforce Base for 2 years while stationed in Okinawa. Edit: I forgot to mention that Airforce chicks are the hottest then any other branch of the military. Marines have the fittest, and the Army has the ugliest/fattest. Coast Gaurd and Navy.. not sure, only seen a couple and they werent anything near special :D | ||
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
If you decide to join the military, you better be signed up to do something you think you might like. There is nothing more pathetic than somebody wasting four years of there life in a job they hate because 'their recruiters fucked them' when really they just didn't take the time to look into things a little bit. Recruiters are con artists. Expect little to nothing from them. Do all your own research, get testimonials from people actually in (and that have done more than just basic training or tech school/AIT). With that said, be very wary of what people have to say. It's disgusting at how much of the victim mentality people in the military have. The PJ pipeline is extremely long and arduous, and has some of the highest attrition rates in any military selection process. Chances are, you won't be shooting dudes (chances are even greater that you won't make it). While they carry weapons in combat (security first before any sort of medical treatment), they have other means of keeping themselves safe. Expect to be some of the most trained yet underused personnel in the entire military. Unless you are an exceptionally fit, motivated and competent individual don't expect to make it. Kennigit and Snet make some very good points. Listen to them. I can answer some questions for you as well. The leap into the military is a big one, and your life will change significantly if you do decide to join. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
Joining the Air Force may instill some sense of discipline and structure into his life, an organization that he does not yet have. I've known some people who returned from the Army and Marines and although they maintain their old traits, they carry with them an increased sense of "doing what you have to do" and are physically more fit, both of which seem to be positive changes. I'd say go for it. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 10 2009 09:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote: again: bankruptcy? I don't think there is a point in me filing for bankruptcy i don't have anything they could take and they dunno where I am anyways anyways thanks for the great replies everyone, I will let tl know what I decide! | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 10 2009 23:52 travis wrote: I don't think there is a point in me filing for bankruptcy i don't have anything they could take and they dunno where I am anyways anyways thanks for the great replies everyone, I will let tl know what I decide! To get rid of that debt you are so desperate to pay off you'd consider joining the military... do you know what bankruptcy is? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
Isn't bankruptcy filed to protect assets? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 11 2009 01:23 travis wrote: I know what it is, but I don't know that much about it. Isn't bankruptcy filed to protect assets? no not really. It is when you cannot afford/pay your debts and you take a giant credit hit but essentially all the debt is "erased." This is of course a great generalization but assuming your debt isn't with Joe Blow but rather X company/corporation/bank or w/e you can file for bankruptcy and erase your debt so you can become a monk. | ||
ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
Joining the military to become a monk doesn't make much sense. | ||
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