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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 08 2009 19:42 GMT
#1
So, I need to make some money. My life is kinda crappy right now. It doesn't seem like I have all that many options.

I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier.

I am not really looking for anything very long term, I just need a place to live and a source of income to pay back my debts. I want to become a monk after my debts have been paid.

Any opinions/experiences? Thanks

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 08 2009 19:45 GMT
#2
poker rounder->ninja->airforce->monk

Yes.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 08 2009 19:46 GMT
#3
On October 09 2009 04:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
poker rounder->ninja->airforce->monk

Yes.

sounds like a Neverwinter Nights hero class to me
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 08 2009 19:47 GMT
#4
Community College?
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Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
October 08 2009 19:49 GMT
#5
Joining the Air Force is supporting the Air Force and it's actions imo. If you are a peaceful person you shouldn't do it.
You could try some normal work, it will probably take you longer to pay your debts...
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 08 2009 19:51 GMT
#6
Always found you interesting and I wish you good luck in turning your life around.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
October 08 2009 19:52 GMT
#7
Yeah like have you tried to get any random job?

Maybe it's hard in these times but there are still jobs out there
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zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
October 08 2009 20:00 GMT
#8
what about the peace corps or americorps?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 20:04:07
October 08 2009 20:02 GMT
#9
just fyi but you have to have no criminal record, a high school diploma, and no chronic injuries (even screws or whatever in your bones count even if the limb is 100%). Oh yea no drugs of course (don't even say you've tried weed it'll disqualify you for shit)

I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 08 2009 20:13 GMT
#10
Military is awesome, go join if you're willing to be sent overseas to Iraq. Because you will be. Great benefits, though.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
October 08 2009 20:16 GMT
#11
On October 09 2009 04:42 travis wrote:
I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier.


....seriously?
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 08 2009 20:16 GMT
#12
Oregon has very high unemployment, I have no credentials or work experience, I don't drive or own a car, and my parents live 15 miles away from the nearest town (I am staying at my parents house).

My parents don't want me to keep playing poker, they aren't very fair about it as their expectations of what I should be doing to pay back this debt are not reasonable and they do not give any suggestions to me other than the military.

I can't go to college and I don't really want to anyways I do not want a long term career, I just want to pay back this debt.

As for joining the air force, my parents claim it is unlikely I would ever be put in a place of combat, I don't really know. I know that the air force accomplishes many good things for people, as well as the bad. I looked at the pamphlet thing my mom brought home and this pararescue job looks interesting, though I guess that would involve being put in combat situations and I don't want to have to shoot anyone.

Frankly I don't need or even want much from life, I am a jaded though peaceful person who rarely feels strong emotions either way. I just want to settle my past so that I don't have to bother about it anymore, and so I can be independent.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 08 2009 20:18 GMT
#13
On October 09 2009 05:13 motbob wrote:
Military is awesome, go join if you're willing to be sent overseas to Iraq. Because you will be. Great benefits, though.


do you actually know what you are talking about though? do airmen have a high rate of being sent off to warzones?


On October 09 2009 05:16 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 04:42 travis wrote:
I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier.


....seriously?


by soldier I mean someone who takes orders, an "enlisted person". I do not mean the stereotype soldier, a member of the army.

air force technicians are still soldiers.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 08 2009 20:20 GMT
#14
On October 09 2009 04:46 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 04:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
poker rounder->ninja->airforce->monk

Yes.

sounds like a Neverwinter Nights hero class to me



lmao

On October 09 2009 05:00 zeppelin wrote:
what about the peace corps or americorps?



I would like that, but from the small amount of research I did, it sounded like it wasn't a good way to make money, or that if anything it would *cost* me money to do.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 08 2009 20:23 GMT
#15
what is going to happen after you become a monk but decide you want to travel with a circus and tame lions?
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 08 2009 20:24 GMT
#16
On October 09 2009 04:49 Yizuo wrote:
Joining the Air Force is supporting the Air Force and it's actions imo. If you are a peaceful person you shouldn't do it.

As a citizen, he's already supporting the Air Force.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 08 2009 20:24 GMT
#17
I dunno, maybe I'll get eaten by a lion?
What are you trying to say?
theron[wdt]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States395 Posts
October 08 2009 20:25 GMT
#18
if you're a peaceful person and want to join an armed forces branch i suggest you join either the air force, the navy. unless you want to be a SEAL or drop bombs, they play very defensive roles in today's armed forces.

the closest you get to combat in the 3 i suggested:
Air Force: Transport Army personnel and equipment to Iraq/Afghanistan or fly bombing missions there.
Navy: Operate on a ship in the ocean near Iraq/Afghanistan or fly bombing missions there (yes the Navy has it's own air capabilities).
Coast Guard: Search and Rescue or Drug Interdiction in the Gulf of Mexico.

if anyone else thinks i missed something, feel free to add.

Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 08 2009 20:37 GMT
#19
I'm confused on how you plan on making it through life if you dont want to go to school or get a job
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 08 2009 20:43 GMT
#20
Because some people have different views on how they want to live their life.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
October 08 2009 20:44 GMT
#21
Wow interesting, the debt must be quite large?
People who join the air force in New Zealand never have to face combat because we have no combat aircraft lol.
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
October 08 2009 20:45 GMT
#22
teach english in korea? my little sister was there for two years, saved up almost $30k because the school covered her rent and fed her breakfast and lunch every day in addition to her pay. she didn't speak any korean before she went there either. she couldn't get a job in the USA she was happy with and just moved back again and scored an even sweeter setup this time. not sure if she is just super lucky or if it really is that easy...
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StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
October 08 2009 20:45 GMT
#23
On October 09 2009 05:37 Xeris wrote:
I'm confused on how you plan on making it through life if you dont want to go to school or get a job


if anyone finds this out please let me know
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
October 08 2009 20:48 GMT
#24
On October 09 2009 05:45 StalinRusH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 05:37 Xeris wrote:
I'm confused on how you plan on making it through life if you dont want to go to school or get a job


if anyone finds this out please let me know


it's called being homeless
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2009 20:50 GMT
#25
If your serious just join the Navy. See the World.
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 20:51:35
October 08 2009 20:51 GMT
#26
I agree with Travis. It's fucking hard to find a job in Oregon right now with so many of our lumber mills having already cut back or closed down. =(
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 08 2009 20:53 GMT
#27
On October 09 2009 05:18 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 05:13 motbob wrote:
Military is awesome, go join if you're willing to be sent overseas to Iraq. Because you will be. Great benefits, though.


do you actually know what you are talking about though? do airmen have a high rate of being sent off to warzones?


Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 05:16 Waxangel wrote:
On October 09 2009 04:42 travis wrote:
I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier.


....seriously?


by soldier I mean someone who takes orders, an "enlisted person". I do not mean the stereotype soldier, a member of the army.

air force technicians are still soldiers.


There's a reason why Air Force is often joked around and referred to as the Chairforce. Like the Navy, the Air Force has little to no fighting or combat unless you are a pilot or a marine/navy seal.

Being enlisted in the Air Force you will more than likely spend the better part of your enlistment working on jets or helicopters specializing in a certain part or engine, and making sure equipment is combat ready.

Being as the majority of the Air Force are not in combat on a daily basis they aren't as lenient with recruitment. In face, the Air Force is one of the most competitive branches to get into at the moment because of their technical positions and the fact they don't need a bunch of grunts to send into the sand pit.

If you are just looking for a paycheck I would suggest talking to recruiters for the Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard. You will be almost guaranteed not to die or end your enlistment with less body parts than you started.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2009 20:55 GMT
#28
https://upsjobs.managehr.com/

http://www.navy.mil/swf/index.asp

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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
October 08 2009 20:56 GMT
#29
On October 09 2009 05:45 mucker wrote:
teach english in korea? my little sister was there for two years, saved up almost $30k because the school covered her rent and fed her breakfast and lunch every day in addition to her pay. she didn't speak any korean before she went there either. she couldn't get a job in the USA she was happy with and just moved back again and scored an even sweeter setup this time. not sure if she is just super lucky or if it really is that easy...

She is definitely super lucky; plenty of people have had really bad experiences as well, although perhaps some of the Korea-located denizens could help him avoid this. I think in general though without a college degree he wouldn't be eligible for many positions.

How large is the debt if we may ask? And what stakes do you play--so we can get an idea how long it could take to repay it.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
October 08 2009 21:08 GMT
#30
On October 09 2009 05:37 Xeris wrote:
I'm confused on how you plan on making it through life if you dont want to go to school or get a job


this

are these debts you owe to certain people or student loan debts?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 08 2009 21:08 GMT
#31
On October 09 2009 05:18 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 05:13 motbob wrote:
Military is awesome, go join if you're willing to be sent overseas to Iraq. Because you will be. Great benefits, though.


do you actually know what you are talking about though? do airmen have a high rate of being sent off to warzones?


Yeah, man. You won't be sent into danger, probably, but you will be sent in some capacity.
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 21:11:44
October 08 2009 21:11 GMT
#32
Coast guard imo. Being navy enlisted sucks. Most Navy enlisted guys are retarded. Trust me, from personal experience. And also, air force benefits suck. They, along with the marine corps, have the longest promotion waits and lowest sign-on bonuses. I would also HIGHLY recommend army intel. Hell, if you sign on as army intel, they will pay u a 25k enlistment bonus and teach you korean, and then send you to South Korea to interpret radio signals from North Korea. You just have to pass a very basic intelligence test. Check out MOS 35 in army. As long as your a reasonably bright guy who doesn't mind saying "good morning sir" 4034302484 times a day, you'll make a great intel soldier.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
October 08 2009 21:16 GMT
#33
On October 09 2009 06:11 Try wrote:
Coast guard imo. Being navy enlisted sucks. Most Navy enlisted guys are retarded. Trust me, from personal experience. And also, air force benefits suck. They, along with the marine corps, have the longest promotion waits and lowest sign-on bonuses. I would also HIGHLY recommend army intel. Hell, if you sign on as army intel, they will pay u a 25k enlistment bonus and teach you korean, and then send you to South Korea to interpret radio signals from North Korea. You just have to pass a very basic intelligence test. Check out MOS 35 in army. As long as your a reasonably bright guy who doesn't mind saying "good morning sir" 4034302484 times a day, you'll make a great intel soldier.


At least joining to Navy means that there is one less retarded now
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 08 2009 21:17 GMT
#34
ty for the rpelies everyone this has already been helpful

as for how i plan to live without a job, I already said, I plan on becoming a monk.

consider that a job, if you want to.

as of now I am very interested in this monastery: http://www.abhayagiri.org/
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 21:25:17
October 08 2009 21:23 GMT
#35
On October 09 2009 05:56 Ingenol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 05:45 mucker wrote:
teach english in korea? my little sister was there for two years, saved up almost $30k because the school covered her rent and fed her breakfast and lunch every day in addition to her pay. she didn't speak any korean before she went there either. she couldn't get a job in the USA she was happy with and just moved back again and scored an even sweeter setup this time. not sure if she is just super lucky or if it really is that easy...

She is definitely super lucky; plenty of people have had really bad experiences as well, although perhaps some of the Korea-located denizens could help him avoid this. I think in general though without a college degree he wouldn't be eligible for many positions.

How large is the debt if we may ask? And what stakes do you play--so we can get an idea how long it could take to repay it.


about 15,000 to businesses. about 50,000 more on top of that to other poker players.

the 15,000 is the pressing issue though I would like to pay it all, obviously.

the stakes I play isn't relevant, poker is more competitive and I am less competitive and it was never really a right match for me in the first place.
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
October 08 2009 21:38 GMT
#36
Thats quite a bit :/
It's really sad to see people having to join the military because there are no jobs. But I guess if you find something useful to do it could be a good experience.

I really don't find it shocking you want to become a monk and I think you'll make a good one. Best of luck!
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
October 08 2009 21:39 GMT
#37
On October 09 2009 05:16 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 04:42 travis wrote:
I am a very peaceful person but other than any violent aspects, I think I could make a pretty good soldier.


....seriously?


I've had thoughts of joining the military and this line of thought is basically where I ended up.
:O
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 08 2009 21:39 GMT
#38
Travis please trust me on this. Unless you have an actual desire to serve in the military beyond monetary compensation, DO. NOT. DO. IT. You need to WANT to do the job and you will get weeded out in a few weeks of training unless you actually have the desire to serve.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 08 2009 21:43 GMT
#39
On October 09 2009 05:24 travis wrote:
I dunno, maybe I'll get eaten by a lion?
What are you trying to say?


That you seem to change your mind on what you want from life frequently and really radically.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
October 08 2009 21:50 GMT
#40
You might get a non-combat position, but that certainly doesn't mean you'll be clear of danger. You could end up working on an airfield in the middle of the sandbox (my buddy is doing this) and come under attack. Hell, even being a cargo pilot or something like that carries risks, even though the likely hood of you actually getting a job as a pilot in any capacity is extremely low.

Less risk than other military jobs, but I wouldn't use the word 'safe' in regards to any military position. Plus, you're still always a number—if you somehow get stationed in the States and they suddenly have a bunch of voids in Iraq, you get to go, even if you didnt sign up for that specific job in that area.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 08 2009 21:51 GMT
#41
oh thats what u meant
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 08 2009 21:52 GMT
#42
On October 09 2009 06:17 travis wrote:
ty for the rpelies everyone this has already been helpful

as for how i plan to live without a job, I already said, I plan on becoming a monk.

consider that a job, if you want to.

as of now I am very interested in this monastery: http://www.abhayagiri.org/


that sounds awesome, I just find it so weird that a monastery has a website... that seems so anti-monk O_O!
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 08 2009 21:57 GMT
#43
Travis if you make it through basic ill pay all your debts. Actually no i wont but that's how convinced i am you aren't going to survive basic. Just because you are a clerk doesn't mean you get any different treatment going in.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 08 2009 22:33 GMT
#44
I would look into the Airforce or Army Advantage Fund and look at going back to school. Also if you think that you could be a career military officer you might want to look at OCS.


Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
October 08 2009 22:34 GMT
#45
On October 09 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Oh yea no drugs of course (don't even say you've tried weed it'll disqualify you for shit)

I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo


I laugh at this because some POLICE departments hire you even if you've smoked weed before. I'm surprised the Military is so picky with all the bitching they do about amount of people they need.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 22:48:55
October 08 2009 22:45 GMT
#46
On October 09 2009 07:34 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Oh yea no drugs of course (don't even say you've tried weed it'll disqualify you for shit)

I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo


I laugh at this because some POLICE departments hire you even if you've smoked weed before. I'm surprised the Military is so picky with all the bitching they do about amount of people they need.


I think it's more about the fact that someone has balls to tell them that; edit: and how retarded he has to be to do that, is there a position in Police where one actually kills people on a daily basis?
Even SWAT isn't as dangerous as real war imo.

On October 09 2009 06:39 Kennigit wrote:
Travis please trust me on this. Unless you have an actual desire to serve in the military beyond monetary compensation, DO. NOT. DO. IT. You need to WANT to do the job and you will get weeded out in a few weeks of training unless you actually have the desire to serve.

Even though I've been through ridiculously outdated and meaningless compulsory service (wtf, is it really 10 years after we joined NATO?) I second this.
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LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
October 08 2009 22:49 GMT
#47
First of all I'd to like to state that the Airforce are called Airmen, not Soldiers. There deployments are only like 6 months, the Army/Marines is 12 months if we dont get extended ><. The Airforce has a MUCH MUCH higher standard of living then the Army, but also you must have a much cleaner record to get in. If your having financial issues the military has greeeaaaatttt financial benefits. Obviously you have the risk of going overseas, but even still you will still be banking an extra couple hundred bucks per month. Not to mention you wont be buying anything cause you eat at the Dining Facility. After my first tour in Iraq i came out with an extra $1200 ez and reenlisted with a TAXFREE bonus of 20 grand.

If you want to do something religious wise and still be part of the military you can always ask the recruiter if you can be a Chaplains assistant. You will be working directly for and with the Chaplain, whom is usually a Captain or higher .

I also would like to add that if u and some1 else is applying for a job and you both show the same qualities except one of you has prior military experience; that person is more then likely to be gauranteed the position.


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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
October 08 2009 23:01 GMT
#48
On October 09 2009 07:45 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 07:34 Jayme wrote:
On October 09 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Oh yea no drugs of course (don't even say you've tried weed it'll disqualify you for shit)

I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo


I laugh at this because some POLICE departments hire you even if you've smoked weed before. I'm surprised the Military is so picky with all the bitching they do about amount of people they need.


I think it's more about the fact that someone has balls to tell them that; edit: and how retarded he has to be to do that, is there a position in Police where one actually kills people on a daily basis?
Even SWAT isn't as dangerous as real war imo.



Uh you take a lie detector test when you join the more major police departments so they WILL find out bro.

Also if you think killing people on a daily basis actually has any direct relationship to how dangerous a job is in this circumstance you're rather ignorant of police work.

Police officer is dangerous shit because in the grand scheme of things you know what to expect in a war... with Police a routine traffic stop can turn into a gun fight. I guess by and large war would be more dangerous but I don't know what it being dangerous or not has to do with smoking weed back when they were like 15.
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LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
October 08 2009 23:08 GMT
#49
Oh about the drugs. Im assuming if you have used drugs before that the military will assume you will use them again or be attempted to use them again. Which in battle could risk the lives of you and your fellow soldiers. Hence why the Army has so many random piss tests. Regardless though, damn near every1 i know in the military has taken drugs. I gaurantee 99% of the people in the military have fraudently enlisted in the military by lieing bout drug usage lulz.
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
October 08 2009 23:37 GMT
#50
I don't know why but for the first time I just realized how disgusting it is that there are religious positions (chaplain, etc.) in the army. I guess I never really thought about it before.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
October 08 2009 23:44 GMT
#51
join the french foreign legion
LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 00:05:16
October 09 2009 00:03 GMT
#52
On October 09 2009 08:37 Ingenol wrote:
I don't know why but for the first time I just realized how disgusting it is that there are religious positions (chaplain, etc.) in the army. I guess I never really thought about it before.


Why is it disgusting? Chaplains are a great asset to the military. They help soldiers and even there spouses through many issues. Chaplains are basically counselors, they are there for emotional/motivational support and religious guidance. You'd be suprised how many soldiers go to a chaplain to talk about even issues not even related to the military.

Oh and chaplains dont carry weapons. So i dont see how they are even remotely disgusting. For some reason i found that comment offensive and im not even religious.
You cant be a god if noone worships you
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 09 2009 00:09 GMT
#53
I am so glad CM is not in the air force
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 09 2009 00:10 GMT
#54
On October 09 2009 08:01 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 07:45 beetlelisk wrote:
On October 09 2009 07:34 Jayme wrote:
On October 09 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Oh yea no drugs of course (don't even say you've tried weed it'll disqualify you for shit)

I was like |_| this close to joining the air force once upon a time. bad idea to join any military imo


I laugh at this because some POLICE departments hire you even if you've smoked weed before. I'm surprised the Military is so picky with all the bitching they do about amount of people they need.


I think it's more about the fact that someone has balls to tell them that; edit: and how retarded he has to be to do that, is there a position in Police where one actually kills people on a daily basis?
Even SWAT isn't as dangerous as real war imo.



Uh you take a lie detector test when you join the more major police departments so they WILL find out bro.

Also if you think killing people on a daily basis actually has any direct relationship to how dangerous a job is in this circumstance you're rather ignorant of police work.

Police officer is dangerous shit because in the grand scheme of things you know what to expect in a war... with Police a routine traffic stop can turn into a gun fight. I guess by and large war would be more dangerous but I don't know what it being dangerous or not has to do with smoking weed back when they were like 15.


I meant things like friendly fire more, what LonGGone wrote too.
I don't think lie detectors are used in courts for example, they aren't 100% accurate + those telling lies about drugs may not consider it lies themselves if they believe strong enough that their past usage has no affect at their future job at all.
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ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
October 09 2009 00:20 GMT
#55
I have a friend in the Airforce who went through ROTC/officer's training. He and other Airforce people tell me that it super sucks if you don't go through the officer's route.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 01:54:28
October 09 2009 01:53 GMT
#56
On October 09 2009 09:09 Last Romantic wrote:
I am so glad CM is not in the air force

I am so glad LR is not a mod. Nice offhanded comment wtf? You're retarded because 9 out of 10 of the people in the military are dumb ass rednecks already, you've seen the ridiculous videos soldiers post on youtube right?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
October 09 2009 02:01 GMT
#57
As a veteran I can tell you that the Air Force offers the best quality of life in comparison to the other services.
RoadTrippin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States48 Posts
October 09 2009 03:10 GMT
#58
On October 09 2009 10:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2009 09:09 Last Romantic wrote:
I am so glad CM is not in the air force

I am so glad LR is not a mod. Nice offhanded comment wtf? You're retarded because 9 out of 10 of the people in the military are dumb ass rednecks already, you've seen the ridiculous videos soldiers post on youtube right?



Can't believe how immature/ignorant you are... Pisses me off so much how you talk shit like that to the guys who's fighting the war for our country. Especially on the fact that those 9 out of 10 people in the military will without a thought gladly take a bullet on your behave even after you saying those comments about them. I swear people talking like that really makes me feel sorry for my fucking brothers/friends that lost their fucking life on your behave..

Can't believe you really are not banned for that comment..

BTW my apologies for the off-topic on your blog..
Headlines
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States482 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 04:36:00
October 09 2009 04:34 GMT
#59
I found this website to be very helpful - > http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/recruiter1.htm

My AVG Free didn't catch any viruses, so I'm guessing the site is ok. The article is only a teaser though. The real treats are the links at the bottom of the page. I would say they're fairly accurate, and very well written. Lots of information for you my friend, hope I helped out!

Oh, and my brother is currently a captain in the Air Force right now. He first tried to enlist as a pilot, but they said his color blindness (which was very weak) prevented him from becoming one. So he became a maintenance officer, and he hated that job. Now he's into contracting which is pretty much about talking with potential clients, writing forms, sitting at the desk all day, etc. Boring, but I'm guessing it pays well enough because he's got a nice house in Virginia, bought his wife a new van, able to support his two kids, and goes to work from 7 a.m. to 4 - 6 p.m. with weekends off. Not bad if you ask me.

He's in Iraq right now, but I'm not too worried about him. He wrote that all he does is stay in base, and all the clients come to him. I asked him to take pictures of Baghdad, but I doubt he will


Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 09 2009 05:13 GMT
#60
I'm in the Air Force and I like it. Go for it.
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
October 09 2009 05:27 GMT
#61
Was in the Air Force for almost 3 weeks before I got out. Just know what you are getting into, do lots of research.

I am just concerned about your reason for joining, because you will need alot of motivation to get you through it.

Best of luck if you decide to go in though.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
October 09 2009 07:40 GMT
#62
I'm sorry if this is normal knowledge or has been posted somewhere else, just curious as to what town you live in seeing as how I live in Oregon as well.

If its personal or whatever thats fine .

Also, good luck figuring out what you want to do. You and I are on a very similar boat...
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 09 2009 08:23 GMT
#63
Just remember boot camp is made so that the slightly less than retarded can pass it unless they are incredibly overweight. It's all about just submitting yourself to their authority and following through to their every command no matter how stupid or ridiculous it is. The drill instructors will think of the dumbest things to make you do with the utmost respect, just do it and say sir, yes sir.

If you don't think you can do that then please... don't waste your time. Apply to some supermarket or fast food chain.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 09 2009 11:14 GMT
#64
what about filing for bankruptcy? If you are going to be a monk for your life credit doesn't matter..
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 09 2009 12:21 GMT
#65
can i be a monk with you travis

even though you hate me

we are one
why so 진지해?
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4640 Posts
October 09 2009 12:45 GMT
#66
I don't think monks are allowed to drink, gamble and sleep around. Otherwise everyone would do it.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 09 2009 12:54 GMT
#67
what are you talking about
why so 진지해?
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
October 09 2009 13:08 GMT
#68
On October 09 2009 06:57 Kennigit wrote:
Travis if you make it through basic ill pay all your debts. Actually no i wont but that's how convinced i am you aren't going to survive basic. Just because you are a clerk doesn't mean you get any different treatment going in.


Maybe I don't know Travis so well, but how hard is it to make it through basic? I don't know about the Army, but judging from my own experience in the Marines you have to TRY to get kicked out of recruit training. Aside from going in with drugs in your system, the only way to get kicked out is to have a total emotional breakdown or something. I remember being quite disgusted with some of the total turd-buckets that they graduated in our platoon. It totally devalued the experience for me, that just about anyone can join and whine and bitch and cry their way through boot camp and still graduate.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
October 09 2009 13:52 GMT
#69
On October 09 2009 20:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
what about filing for bankruptcy? If you are going to be a monk for your life credit doesn't matter..


lol

this is actually a pretty awesome idea. If you move into a monastery or buddhist temple I guess you don't need eartly possessions or make money to get by. SO just fuck money and become a monk, oh and please write a auto-biography when you are older
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
October 09 2009 13:53 GMT
#70
On October 09 2009 21:45 Hittegods wrote:
I don't think monks are allowed to drink, gamble and sleep around. Otherwise everyone would do it.


Why would everyone do it otherwise lol

Can you see yourself meditating 10 hours / day?
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 09 2009 14:13 GMT
#71
im a dronk
why so 진지해?
Track
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States217 Posts
October 09 2009 17:46 GMT
#72
Believe me, don't go into the Air Force wanting a pararescue billet, you probably won't get it. PR is the "elite" of the Air Force, much like the Rangers/Special Operations are of the Army, SEALs are of the Navy, and Force Reconnaissance are of the Marine Corps. The standards they set are as insanely demanding as any other elite organization.

Don't go into the USAF unless you're prepared to work doing something you're almost assuredly going to hate doing for 4 years, prepared to take orders from someone you don't like at all, treated poorly, and paid poorly.

I'm not saying all of the above happen, but it happens often enough that you have to be prepared to accept it if you're thinking of joining the service.
Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
October 09 2009 17:53 GMT
#73
In the military, the chances of you going for four years without working for a complete asshole at at least one point are pretty low. Maybe the Air Force isn't as bad in this respect as what I experienced, since rank structure is so much more relaxed. Especially if you're air crew.

And they aren't going to let you be a linguist unless you qualify for a top secret security clearance.
Track
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States217 Posts
October 09 2009 17:55 GMT
#74
Yeah, cryptolinguistics is ALSO a really hard billet to get, and you also can't get it with a 4 year enlistment, only with a 6 year. The training takes over a year at Monterey Bay at the Defense Language Institute.
Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 18:35:38
October 09 2009 18:35 GMT
#75
On October 10 2009 02:55 Track wrote:
Yeah, cryptolinguistics is ALSO a really hard billet to get, and you also can't get it with a 4 year enlistment, only with a 6 year. The training takes over a year at Monterey Bay at the Defense Language Institute.


Does the Air Force let you contract for a job specialty before you enlist? In the Marines all you have to do is get appropriate scores on the DLAB and ASVAB and qualify for a TS. If you don't meet those requirements, you can walk away without even signing up.

You may not end up doing exactly what you wanted, but whatever you do will be within that field. i.e. you might not end up working on avionics, but you might work on the electrical systems of guided missiles or vice versa.

I don't know if the Air Force works differently in this respect, though.
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
October 09 2009 20:46 GMT
#76
On October 10 2009 02:46 Track wrote:
Don't go into the USAF unless you're prepared to work doing something you're almost assuredly going to hate doing for 4 years, prepared to take orders from someone you don't like at all, treated poorly, and paid poorly.


Idk about you but im happy as fuck with my pay in the Army. And i know ALOOOOOTTTTTT of people who have reenlisted just because of the Army's benefit's alone. Specially the married soldiers with dependents.

Not sure if pay is much different from the Air Force with the Army though. But from what ive seen from workin on a Airforce base in Okinawa was that the rank structure is ridicolously laid back. I hear fuckin E3's talkin to E7's and officers like they were homies.. very interesting
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Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
October 09 2009 20:57 GMT
#77
On October 10 2009 05:46 Tenryu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 02:46 Track wrote:
Don't go into the USAF unless you're prepared to work doing something you're almost assuredly going to hate doing for 4 years, prepared to take orders from someone you don't like at all, treated poorly, and paid poorly.


Idk about you but im happy as fuck with my pay in the Army. And i know ALOOOOOTTTTTT of people who have reenlisted just because of the Army's benefit's alone. Specially the married soldiers with dependents.

Not sure if pay is much different from the Air Force with the Army though. But from what ive seen from workin on a Airforce base in Okinawa was that the rank structure is ridicolously laid back. I hear fuckin E3's talkin to E7's and officers like they were homies.. very interesting


Yep. They're much more like a big corporation than the rest of the military.

Were you at Ft. Buckner?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 10 2009 00:06 GMT
#78
On October 09 2009 16:40 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'm sorry if this is normal knowledge or has been posted somewhere else, just curious as to what town you live in seeing as how I live in Oregon as well.

If its personal or whatever thats fine .

Also, good luck figuring out what you want to do. You and I are on a very similar boat...


i used to live in Medford, now i live in Sunny Valley(what an awesome name).

On October 09 2009 21:21 Rekrul wrote:
can i be a monk with you travis

even though you hate me

we are one


I can't stop you even if I wanted to
I don't hate you
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 10 2009 00:12 GMT
#79
again: bankruptcy?
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 01:57:54
October 10 2009 01:55 GMT
#80
On October 10 2009 05:57 Neverborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 05:46 Tenryu wrote:
On October 10 2009 02:46 Track wrote:
Don't go into the USAF unless you're prepared to work doing something you're almost assuredly going to hate doing for 4 years, prepared to take orders from someone you don't like at all, treated poorly, and paid poorly.


Idk about you but im happy as fuck with my pay in the Army. And i know ALOOOOOTTTTTT of people who have reenlisted just because of the Army's benefit's alone. Specially the married soldiers with dependents.

Not sure if pay is much different from the Air Force with the Army though. But from what ive seen from workin on a Airforce base in Okinawa was that the rank structure is ridicolously laid back. I hear fuckin E3's talkin to E7's and officers like they were homies.. very interesting


Yep. They're much more like a big corporation than the rest of the military.

Were you at Ft. Buckner?


Yeh the Airforce is more of a workforce then a military from what ive seen.

Nah, im US Army but i lived on Kadena Airforce Base for 2 years while stationed in Okinawa.

Edit: I forgot to mention that Airforce chicks are the hottest then any other branch of the military. Marines have the fittest, and the Army has the ugliest/fattest. Coast Gaurd and Navy.. not sure, only seen a couple and they werent anything near special :D
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Bobo_XIII
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States429 Posts
October 10 2009 05:34 GMT
#81
The military provides a steady income, but that's about it. You will not be rich doing this shit, and with the bonuses disappearing you'd almost be better off doing something in the civilian sector if you're in it for the cash.

If you decide to join the military, you better be signed up to do something you think you might like. There is nothing more pathetic than somebody wasting four years of there life in a job they hate because 'their recruiters fucked them' when really they just didn't take the time to look into things a little bit.

Recruiters are con artists. Expect little to nothing from them. Do all your own research, get testimonials from people actually in (and that have done more than just basic training or tech school/AIT). With that said, be very wary of what people have to say. It's disgusting at how much of the victim mentality people in the military have.

The PJ pipeline is extremely long and arduous, and has some of the highest attrition rates in any military selection process. Chances are, you won't be shooting dudes (chances are even greater that you won't make it). While they carry weapons in combat (security first before any sort of medical treatment), they have other means of keeping themselves safe. Expect to be some of the most trained yet underused personnel in the entire military. Unless you are an exceptionally fit, motivated and competent individual don't expect to make it.

Kennigit and Snet make some very good points. Listen to them. I can answer some questions for you as well. The leap into the military is a big one, and your life will change significantly if you do decide to join.
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
October 10 2009 13:14 GMT
#82
I don't have experience in the armed forces but if you think about it, joining the Air Force may be good for travis. For one, he seems lost in life. He's playing poker to pass the time and wants to be a monk? It seems like he's not able to live a normal life like most people.

Joining the Air Force may instill some sense of discipline and structure into his life, an organization that he does not yet have. I've known some people who returned from the Army and Marines and although they maintain their old traits, they carry with them an increased sense of "doing what you have to do" and are physically more fit, both of which seem to be positive changes.

I'd say go for it.
Marines > everything
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 10 2009 14:52 GMT
#83
On October 10 2009 09:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
again: bankruptcy?


I don't think there is a point in me filing for bankruptcy

i don't have anything they could take and they dunno where I am anyways




anyways thanks for the great replies everyone, I will let tl know what I decide!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 10 2009 16:19 GMT
#84
On October 10 2009 23:52 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 09:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
again: bankruptcy?


I don't think there is a point in me filing for bankruptcy

i don't have anything they could take and they dunno where I am anyways




anyways thanks for the great replies everyone, I will let tl know what I decide!


To get rid of that debt you are so desperate to pay off you'd consider joining the military... do you know what bankruptcy is?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 10 2009 16:23 GMT
#85
I know what it is, but I don't know that much about it.

Isn't bankruptcy filed to protect assets?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 10 2009 16:26 GMT
#86
On October 11 2009 01:23 travis wrote:
I know what it is, but I don't know that much about it.

Isn't bankruptcy filed to protect assets?


no not really. It is when you cannot afford/pay your debts and you take a giant credit hit but essentially all the debt is "erased."

This is of course a great generalization but assuming your debt isn't with Joe Blow but rather X company/corporation/bank or w/e you can file for bankruptcy and erase your debt so you can become a monk.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
October 19 2009 22:42 GMT
#87
Incontrol is right on this one. You should just file bankruptcy and be a monk. Seeing as how you want to be a monk I don't think you'll have any ties left in poker so...file bankruptcy.

Joining the military to become a monk doesn't make much sense.
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