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McFly
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Steelflight-Rx
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
I know exactly what you're talking about. It is good to respect the dead, but not the the point of changing their image. It always bothers me that people all of a sudden became "flawless" once they're gone. But I guess it's better for people to have that image than walk around talking about how much of a bitch they were... | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27097 Posts
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
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Equaoh
Canada427 Posts
On October 05 2009 11:03 Steelflight-Rx wrote: Hooray! The beast is slain! Let us feast on roasted pig and drink mead from our horns until dawn breaks! It is a happy day, lol | ||
meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On October 05 2009 11:07 Manifesto7 wrote: And yet she probably had a family who loved her and will miss her. That's true... there will be people that miss her... but should we be falsely amongst them? I mean... I'm sure there were people that she was nice to but it sure as hell wasn't us... I'm not rejoicing that she's dead... but just commenting on how easy people forget. | ||
Chuiu
3470 Posts
On October 05 2009 10:53 meeple wrote: So, one of my high school teachers just died from cancer... and everyone that I've talked to has been really sad about it and saying that it wasn't time and all that jazz... but to be completely honest... she was a frickin monster... and people used to hate her so much in high school... and she would pick on the smallest things and flaunt her authority like a kindergartener on a power trip. She was terribly obese and actually on disability because of her weight... and she used to be so mean to kids... picking on people she didn't like and her grading system was based totally on favoritism, but now that she's dead all of a sudden she's an angel and too young to go... frick man... she smoked like a fiend and weighed as much as a content hippo... I'm surprised she lasted this long. As in life, so you are in death... you made people's lives miserable... so I'm glad you're gone. All she ever wanted was a hug. | ||
plated.rawr
Norway1675 Posts
On October 05 2009 11:07 Manifesto7 wrote: And yet she probably had a family who loved her and will miss her. Exactly. While it might seem hypocritical to talk well of her when you honestly feel she was a bitch, whatever's being said about her post-mortem is supposed to console her family and friends. Keep your shit to yourself and at least let the people who care keep some good images in their heads. | ||
IefNaij
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
when a person dies, even if the person was hated before, just because they died, people get all sympathetic and attach good comments to the person that they hated what a load of bs | ||
meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On October 05 2009 11:33 IefNaij wrote: Similar incident happened to my high school teacher, what school are you from meeple? It's in windsor... you know it? | ||
mastuh
United States64 Posts
On October 05 2009 11:07 Manifesto7 wrote: And yet she probably had a family who loved her and will miss her. Wise words. I think the point isn't to remember someone's shitty qualities, but their good ones. If you think she's such a bitch, that's probably why you weren't invited to the funeral. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Selfishness has no bounds, truly. | ||
Snet
United States3573 Posts
You didn't like her when she's alive, dying doesn't change that. However, you can't be glad that someone got cancer and died without being a little fucked in the head. Of course some idiot could say something like, "So you're not glad Hitler died?".. I'm just assuming we're all adults here. I don't see anything wrong with not caring if someone died though. I really don't care when alot of people die, but I'm not happy about it. | ||
eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
although you do bring up a good point about not being able to talk badly about the dead -- i guess you just have to listen to the bullshit and keep your mouth shut. well i mean, i'm sure she was a different person among family and friends -- so don't share your feelings with that group of people and be respectful. | ||
druj
137 Posts
I volunteered at a hospital about a year back, was stuck with a lung cancer victim, middle aged, late forties. He was an asshole, took advantage of everything from making a mess on the floor, pissing on the bed, telling me dirty jokes, and giving me racial slurs. Getting mad would only give him a sense of satisfaction so I sustained, or leaving him for another guy, so I didn't give up. A month later, he got worse, his breathing severe, and the dehumanization of cancer had taken its root, face pale, bald, and skeletal undergrowth. One night before I left to go home, I heard him sobbing, sounded like a 9 year old choking on himself. So I walked back, and checked in, and he held in his hand a ring. I simply asked, what was it for? Told me how he met his wife senior year of college. How he loved another woman, but got caught up with another soon after she broke off with him in a hasty breakup, and how he regretted it when he saw her again, all alone sitting on a bench where they first met. But he married the other woman, had just 1 daughter, and he became the workaholic businessman. He hated coming back home, to the sight of a messy house, a fast food dinner, a baby in 2 pounds of shit every day, and in all his efforts, he tried to convince his wife to change up. But she didn't listen, went around shopping trips and eventually he dissociated from all house life completely, his office became his domain. Smoking his new sex and for 4 years he kept up with this repetitive lifestyle, never knowing his family. But one day, he gave in, cheated with a co-worker, people found out, wife takes nearly all his assets and the kid, and he was fired for temper/sexual harassment. He took up telemarketing, went around 1 night stands, chain-smoked, swindled every guy any guy that near him, and projected his cheating insecurity onto every woman he ever could have an intimate relationship with. He had 2 other very short marriages, and became fairly obese. However he tells me his one biggest regret, was not to a human being. He saw a pigeon limping one afternoon on the side of the street, as he got closer and closer to it, scared it, had it headed towards the center, and in a second, it gets hit by an SUV, feathers fly, and he just stared at it for a good few minutes. And that made him cry, I couldn't tell you why, but it was the most damning memory he had. I couldn't cry with him, I couldn't understand, and in all honestly, I didn't feel a strong personal connection to him, I would say, equivalent to watching some HIV-riddled African kids starving on some remote desert on TV for some bullshit Christian charity commercial. That kind of feeling. 3 months later, no one came to the funeral, he gets buried in a cheap wooden coffin, and I tear up the eulogy I had made for the friends/family that was supposed to be there, the ones he probably lied about, I'll never know. So,TL;DR what I'm saying, and although it implies, "hey give the bitch a chance" I really do mean it, in all likelihood she didn't like herself very much, worked in an environment she obviously didn't like, and despite her horrible actions, there is something human that is at least, recognizable, tragic. You don't have to care, but putting yourself in that position to hate a person holistically and be glad for their demise, is just a tad ignorant. | ||
Sky
Jordan812 Posts
On October 05 2009 14:03 Atk wrote: + Show Spoiler + The cruelest people I knew were always their own greatest victims. I volunteered at a hospital about a year back, was stuck with a lung cancer victim, middle aged, late forties. He was an asshole, took advantage of everything from making a mess on the floor, pissing on the bed, telling me dirty jokes, and giving me racial slurs. Getting mad would only give him a sense of satisfaction so I sustained, or leaving him for another guy, so I didn't give up. A month later, he got worse, his breathing severe, and the dehumanization of cancer had taken its root, face pale, bald, and skeletal undergrowth. One night before I left to go home, I heard him sobbing, sounded like a 9 year old choking on himself. So I walked back, and checked in, and he held in his hand a ring. I simply asked, what was it for? Told me how he met his wife senior year of college. How he loved another woman, but got caught up with another soon after she broke off with him in a hasty breakup, and how he regretted it when he saw her again, all alone sitting on a bench where they first met. But he married the other woman, had just 1 daughter, and he became the workaholic businessman. He hated coming back home, to the sight of a messy house, a fast food dinner, a baby in 2 pounds of shit every day, and in all his efforts, he tried to convince his wife to change up. But she didn't listen, went around shopping trips and eventually he dissociated from all house life completely, his office became his domain. Smoking his new sex and for 4 years he kept up with this repetitive lifestyle, never knowing his family. But one day, he gave in, cheated with a co-worker, people found out, wife takes nearly all his assets and the kid, and he was fired for temper/sexual harassment. He took up telemarketing, went around 1 night stands, chain-smoked, swindled every guy any guy that near him, and projected his cheating insecurity onto every woman he ever could have an intimate relationship with. He had 2 other very short marriages, and became fairly obese. However he tells me his one biggest regret, was not to a human being. He saw a pigeon limping one afternoon on the side of the street, as he got closer and closer to it, scared it, had it headed towards the center, and in a second, it gets hit by an SUV, feathers fly, and he just stared at it for a good few minutes. And that made him cry, I couldn't tell you why, but it was the most damning memory he had. I couldn't cry with him, I couldn't understand, and in all honestly, I didn't feel a strong personal connection to him, I would say, equivalent to watching some HIV-riddled African kids starving on some remote desert on TV for some bullshit Christian charity commercial. That kind of feeling. 3 months later, no one came to the funeral, he gets buried in a cheap wooden coffin, and I tear up the eulogy I had made for the friends/family that was supposed to be there, the ones he probably lied about, I'll never know. So,TL;DR what I'm saying, and although it implies, "hey give the bitch a chance" I really do mean it, in all likelihood she didn't like herself very much, worked in an environment she obviously didn't like, and despite her horrible actions, there is something human that is at least, recognizable, tragic. You don't have to care, but putting yourself in that position to hate a person holistically and be glad for their demise, is just a tad ignorant. Good story, brilliant outlook. | ||
Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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