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Lategame TvP is retarded - Page 4

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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 01 2009 13:49 GMT
#61
SCVs are beasts.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 01 2009 14:39 GMT
#62
On October 01 2009 22:49 koreasilver wrote:
SCVs are beasts.

Sure they are, you wouldn't like to fight this one for example:
[image loading]

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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 15:27:39
October 01 2009 15:27 GMT
#63
why do people try to justify this. There is nothing to justify carriers are retardedly strong regardless and game enders when they come as a surprise. I don't see how anyone can argue against this.

total bullcrap man.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
October 01 2009 15:32 GMT
#64
god you whine sooooo much luckyfool T_T
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 01 2009 15:34 GMT
#65
Timing pushes are also strong when they come as a surprise. Actually, any well thought-out attack that comes as a surprise is strong. That's why an objective of good players is to minimize surprises and prepare for what they think is going to happen; which they do by scouting, something you apparently do not do well. That is unfortunate.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 01 2009 15:35 GMT
#66
Flash build woot
POGGERS
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25995 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 15:38:51
October 01 2009 15:38 GMT
#67
On October 02 2009 00:27 LuckyFool wrote:
why do people try to justify this. There is nothing to justify carriers are retardedly strong regardless and game enders when they come as a surprise. I don't see how anyone can argue against this.

total bullcrap man.

It's the shoddy workman who blames his tools.

You are terrible at Starcraft. Just accept it and move on. It's not a big deal and won't affect your life.
Moderator
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 15:51:30
October 01 2009 15:49 GMT
#68
I agree. As a zerg user (no biased opinion) I have to say PvT is easier than TvP. I've practised with terran A LOT more than with protoss but everytime I off race as protoss I go 2 base carriers or fast dt -> 2 expos -> 2 stargate arbs... I've beaten c+ terrans with carriers and I suck with protoss... I've lost to horrible c- protoss with horrible macro but they just make 20 gates and pump goons zeals hts and keep recalling everywhere. If anyone says protoss is harder than terran is a douche. And I'm a zerg player...
zvz is imba
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 15:51:08
October 01 2009 15:50 GMT
#69
edit: i quoted instead of editing sorry...
zvz is imba
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 15:52:40
October 01 2009 15:52 GMT
#70
Don't double post and quote yourself, thats ridiculous.

edit: n/m
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 01 2009 15:54 GMT
#71
On October 02 2009 00:38 Chill wrote:
It's not a big deal and won't affect your life.

ahahaha
POGGERS
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 01 2009 16:04 GMT
#72
On October 01 2009 14:21 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 13:46 Hypnosis wrote:
I play Terran and i completely disagree. Lategame is a joke you just fucking siege up and poof their army is gone lolol. 3 vessels is auto win cuz you can just EMP and their entire health is gone. Try playing protoss lol.
You kidding me? EMP has the smallest splash in the universe, it's so easy for arbs and protoss shit to dodge that shit. good luck emping an incoming arb for recall too btw, fucking gotta get lucky as fuck to emp anything on the move omfg.


Its not very hard to EMP a moving unit, just judge the distance a bit. Watch like 10 flash replays and you will understand just how imbalanced TvP is. Its really not haha, but it seems that way when he plays..

Toss has to having THE BEST timing and positioning to win (especially on Dest) and all you gotta do as T is set up a wall of depots and 10000000 mines and 3 tanks to defend ANY choke NP. Its great!
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 01 2009 16:23 GMT
#73
On October 02 2009 01:04 Hypnosis wrote:
Toss has to having THE BEST timing and positioning to win (especially on Dest)
srsly?

don't get me started on timing. toss can have no timing sense whatsoever and win by doing complete bullshit while T has to have fucking perfect timing just to keep the god damn game even.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 01 2009 16:29 GMT
#74
"Fool" around a bit?

My idea is:
Have you seen TL Attack with Sea?
If yes, do you remember game where Sea used both Goliaths and Marines to counter just Interceptors? (someone back me up on this, this is not a troll; I'm very curious how well this works myself tbh)

The point here is Goliaths shoot their rockets until target is down, that means much more rockets may be shot than it's needed to take it down; Marines help them avoid doing this, do similar damage to armour of S size flyers and cost no gas!

Now ask yourself: as you say you can't do shit with excessive micro, you kill only Interceptors anyway - then why care when you can just 1a2at and do something more effective instead?


What's more...
On October 01 2009 14:21 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 13:46 Hypnosis wrote:
I play Terran and i completely disagree. Lategame is a joke you just fucking siege up and poof their army is gone lolol. 3 vessels is auto win cuz you can just EMP and their entire health is gone. Try playing protoss lol.
You kidding me? EMP has the smallest splash in the universe, it's so easy for arbs and protoss shit to dodge that shit. good luck emping an incoming arb for recall too btw, fucking gotta get lucky as fuck to emp anything on the move omfg.

... why nobody uses Ghosts? 1 Ghost is actually more than 3 times cheaper than Vessel, made 30 seconds faster (well I'm not sure for what speed it's defined on Terran stats and other pages but you get the point right?), in one of the cheapest buildings in game.

500mins and 450gas is needed for Arbiter Tribunal + Recall and Stasis Field upgrades + much more time to make all of this, including 160? seconds to make 1 Arbiter, which makes it pretty huge "investment", 750gas is 5 HTs or 15 Dragoons.


On the other hand 250mins and 250gas is needed for Covert Ops and Lockdown upgrade; you can get 3 Ghosts in the time to make 1 Arbiter for about 70% of price of it, lol?

You don't even have to have all of your Ghosts always hotkeyed, you can just right-click them on for example Tank to make them all follow that Tank until it dies (they won't shoot then tho).



IMO you can do shit and still deflect toss air, to hunt it down anywhere later.
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
October 01 2009 16:38 GMT
#75
Agreed. ^_^
觀過斯知仁矣.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
October 01 2009 16:53 GMT
#76
Yeah man, its so stupid retarded that just stay in your base not even bothering to scout for ->TWELVE<- carriers while massing a huge pile of useless shit, that you get caught with your pants down when you actually decide to come out.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 01 2009 17:04 GMT
#77
When are you going to make a blog on how BS TvT is and how OP siege tanks are then, Lucky?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 01 2009 17:18 GMT
#78
Wait... what x_x
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=101557
._.
wwww
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
October 01 2009 17:28 GMT
#79
LOL it was about time for another one...

It's okay LF, I agree with everything regardless of what all the other wisemen here say... and l o l at the D+/C- level people here preaching about how to properly play...
정명훈 화이팅!~
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 01 2009 17:29 GMT
#80
I love how people randomly link to my past stuff as if it proves some sort of point. TvP is my best matchup, I regularly beat B and higher level protoss players TvP but carriers are bullshit and the lategame is retarded whats the point to linking to past blogs, unless you just love them so much and want to read again, that's fine, make sure to rate 5/5 while ur there too.

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