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Lategame TvP is a fucking joke. Everything about it makes me want to punch someone. Carriers are seriously one of the most imba and retarded units in the game. A perfectly macroed 200/200 terran ball of death can die in 5 seconds to surprise carriers. Terran can play a perfect game and miss scanning the one place protoss made like 6 carriers and it can rape 40 tanks so fucking easily. It doesn't even take any micro or skill u just select and attack that shit. Terran has nothing even nearly like this. Even battlecruisers need fucking yamato cannon targeting omg.
Why can't terran have one god damn unit that just attacks at full power without some sort of godlike micro or casting ability.... omfg.
Carriers are to lategame TvP what DT's are to early game. Instant game enders if you haven't been perfectly scanning and scouting for it all game. Even if you fucking scout it before a single carrier is out you better have godlike micro with gol+tank army against his mixed goons+storm+mass carrier army. Are you kidding me? LoL. People will say to "push while he's making carriers cuz his ground army is weak" if you've already committed to a 3base build it aint gonna happen. Carriers are ridiculously strong on a map like blue storm. They can fly around and pick off all kinds of shit and gols get fucking clusterfucked in ur nat.
You can have perfect macro and push at the exact perfect timing but even if you mismicro one god damn thing it's basically gg. 2 storms and 20 gols can go poof in 2 seconds. And have fun microing that shit vs the actual carriers, any good protoss will just hit and run and keep carriers out of range of gols while all ur shit gets raped. Even on a map like othello carriers are strong as shit. You can have millions of gols and it wont matter they just run around picking off random shit while they take the map. actually Carriers are strong on every map what the fuck. seriously there's something wrong here.
Have fun when they transition back to a ground army. 20 goons vs 20 gols gg no re rofl. Even when ur prepared for carriers u have to constantly be on the lookout for a transition back to ground army by protoss. You kidding me? All fucking game Terran has to know exactly what the P is trying to do or it's instant gg.
It's even more fun when they mix an arb or two in with their fucking carrier fleet. Stasising all my shit and making me scan as well as micro omfg. Like seriously? As if 14 carriers alone weren't strong enough this unit makes all of them cloaked. lol?
Oh and your army can NEVER be out of place. You could be out in the field fighting carriers and 1 recall in main=gg. Seriously wtf. You can kill the protoss main and he can still rape u cuz he owns the rest of the map and just rebuilds his main elsewhere. I mean seriously what the hell. Terran cant even lose like 5 depots in his main or it puts him so far behind and protoss can lose a main and still be in the game rofl. Everything about lategame TvP is just retarded bullshit seriously what the hell.
You can mine and turret up perfectly for recalls and he can just lead with an observer to spot the one place you didnt plant mines and recall 40 units there. U can pull ur shit back to deal with it but his other 160 supply of army rapes ur expos. Terran has a fucking ridiculously hard time taking and keeping expos too. Protoss can waltz around make a couple cannons and be perfectly safe. Terran has to slowly move around praying the toss doesn't notice they are trying to expand and take a 3rd or 4th base. Are you kidding me? And terran always has to keep units around to protect or storm drops or protoss army will just rape expos. Protoss can just avoid terran army until terran moves too far or over extends and then rapes everything. If terran doesn't set up perfectly for every engagement its total rape. Complete RAPE.
Lategame TvP is retarded protoss is fucking retarded as shit and has so much time to plan and rape terran so easily. All it takes is one fucking mistake by terran and it's gg at basically any point. While Protoss can waste their entire army multiple times and lose their main and still win, total complete and utter bullshit.
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DL:TR I agree regardless...
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I dislike arbiters, but I feel it has more to do with my inability to push properly. I still get angry when I lose my 200 push to 2 stasis and 3 storms just feels too easy.
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dont need godlike scouting, just scan his core sometime during midgame, if its upgrading he's going carriers. carriers without attack upgrade do like no damage to gols, its basically suicide
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hahaha i agree!! FUCK CARRIERS!!
5/ terran fucking rules fuck protoss 5!
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I play Terran and i completely disagree. Lategame is a joke you just fucking siege up and poof their army is gone lolol. 3 vessels is auto win cuz you can just EMP and their entire health is gone. Try playing protoss lol.
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Big fan of your rant blogs
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I love reading these blogs too but I have to agree with Hypnosis here.
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Fucking hell late game PvT is a joke i mean i can perfectly macro 10 carriers that are hidden from the terran but chances are because he has scan which i fucking imba hes gonna spot the stargates, and its a joke if the terran has anything over +2 because it means that 10 gols can kill all my interceptors instantly and then if he pumps out a few groups theres nothing you can do against it, serously rock is stupid man carriers dont work at all against terran you have to have GODLY micro to be able to do any damage against them and even if you have 10 obs wit your carriers and 20 sairs its likely that 5 wraiths are gonna scan kill all your obs and then kill your carriers i mean you can perfectly macro 200/200 arbs and have like 5 storms and yet all the terran has to do is throw down 3 emps and your shit has no sheilds or energy, i mean i at least have 2 storms but if the terran isnt half stupid he spreads his tanks well and all my shit dies instantly
Vultures are the worst unit imaginable in the game i mean i can have 3 cannons around my mineral lines but if 12 of these little badboys come my probes are all dead before the cannons can even get a shot off
and its frustrating when you transition back into ground army and get an arb out but gols are so imba they rape your army anyway
and recall is the most useless spell ever, i mean a terran can just get a layer of turrets and your arb is gonna die before it gets to the t main and if it gets scouted its always gonna get emped, and the worst is when you recall into the t base but oh all your shti dies because he has mine ready
Lategame PvT is retarded terran is fucking retarded as shit and has so much time to plan and rape protoss so easily. All it takes is one fucking mistake by toss and it's gg at basically any point. While terran can waste their entire army multiple times and lose their main and still win, total complete and utter bullshit.
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Scara, you aim for free wins with carriers, and if i the terran scans in the predictable spot, you argue that it's imba. Place them better or play standard.
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tell you what, try switching to P and go carriers every game and see how you do ;P. you say terran doesnt have anything that ridiculously powerful... have you played protoss against a 200/200 terran ball? Have you watched as your entire army 200/200 3/3 army get evaporated in 5 seconds cos u missjudged how much he was rolling out with?
I'm not by any means complaining, because thats how the matchup works, but you've made it sound like protoss have this ridiculous wtf advantage with carriers... when without something like carriers/arbs, lategame would REALLY be a joke then ^^.
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I switched to playing TvP instead of PvP just so I could whine and cry all the time like OP. And honestly when i lose (i.e some of the times that I dont 2 fact) it kinda sucks, but the constant whining and crying i get to do feels good man.
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On October 01 2009 13:46 Hypnosis wrote: I play Terran and i completely disagree. Lategame is a joke you just fucking siege up and poof their army is gone lolol. 3 vessels is auto win cuz you can just EMP and their entire health is gone. Try playing protoss lol. You kidding me? EMP has the smallest splash in the universe, it's so easy for arbs and protoss shit to dodge that shit. good luck emping an incoming arb for recall too btw, fucking gotta get lucky as fuck to emp anything on the move omfg.
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i lol'd
(even though i completely disagree. vultures and tanks are most imba units in the game)
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Braavos36362 Posts
if you are losing TvP, its not because carriers are imbalanced, its because the player you were playing is better than you.
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I feel your pain.. Carriers, arbiters and dark templars are just so annoying.
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I agree >_> i mean even if you can melt there army you have to play super gay 200/200 late game style tvp...come on what fun is that? otherwise you basically have to have perfect macro/micro or you get rolled >_> fucking imba protoss..DT DROP SOMEMORE PLZ (I play pvt instead of tvt so dont tell me to play protoss cause i do)
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zerg is mutual enemy no in-fighting plz
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