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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
October 01 2009 06:52 GMT
#41
Carriers don't really happen to me anymore. For a while so many fagtoss were doing reaver into carrier on blue storm but since blue storm is dead... :D
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
October 01 2009 06:56 GMT
#42
On October 01 2009 15:52 FragKrag wrote:
Carriers don't really happen to me anymore. For a while so many fagtoss were doing reaver into carrier on blue storm but since blue storm is dead... :D
i think its motw right now.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
October 01 2009 06:58 GMT
#43
Yea, Tvp Can be so gay. I don't even play protoss but when I pvt I win more often than when I tvp.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 01 2009 07:13 GMT
#44
On October 01 2009 15:52 FragKrag wrote:
Carriers don't really happen to me anymore. For a while so many fagtoss were doing reaver into carrier on blue storm but since blue storm is dead... :D

thats fuckin it. Im gonna go reaver into carrier all my pvts as of now

LuckyFool: I am protoss and i agree. gay as hell... yet its a fucking joke i can almost never engage a terran army head to head without me suiciding my whole shit and terran loosing 2 tanks and his vults... 10 tanks live. Stasis might be imba.. but its the only fucken way i can do anything against a 2-1 timing push or a maxed terran :S
Carriers on the other hand lol... agreed.
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 07:33:46
October 01 2009 07:26 GMT
#45
On October 01 2009 14:47 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 14:44 genryou wrote:
vultures and tanks are most imba


Imba? More like a 2-edge sword IMO.

Tanks: Do a ridiculously powerful splash damage that rape both opponent and ally.
Vultures: Have a mini nuke which dealt a ridiculously powerful splash damage that rape both opponent and ally.

This splash damage is soo stupid that even pros sometimes struggle to avoid Zealot Bombing and Mine Dragging.

Now give me one Protoss unit which backstab you like Tanks and Spider Mine.

storms and stasis

You choose where they set off unlike mines/tanks No hold tanks trick

BTW to all P crying about 60hp imba -
1) T always has less ccs so they build/rebuild workers longer
2) T doesn't have weapons of mass destruction vs workers (unless nuke which sux cause you will check nexuses anyway) like storms or reavers (storms more powerful). If you wanna to do vult raid besides cannons you have to select every fvcking probe manually cause otherwise vults will attack cannons and die. With storm drop you need like unload -> 2x t, yo. Really if SCVs were 40 hp game would end after first storm drop with speed shuttle


Still I have better win ratio vs carriers than vs standard army TvP and better ratio going arbiters than carriers PvT
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
October 01 2009 07:31 GMT
#46
I completely agree carrier is as gay as dt. However if you scan correctly then it feels really good to humiliate your opponent and he is basically fucked up. I really enjoy punishing noobs going for carriers and dts blindly.

However arbiter is the most annoying shit ever created, and damn Pusan. It is really easy for you to lose pretty much the whole army by just one single well placed stasis. Oh and the recall as well, sometimes combined with hallucination which I have faced more often. Emp can cure this shit but I agree It requires almost perfect map control and super fast hand and execution. Except you timing push him while he is making arbiter, you have got big disadvantage when arbiter is out.
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
October 01 2009 09:31 GMT
#47
it is so goddamn annoying for the terran to melt your 200/200 army after he turtles for about 20 minutes AND THEN COMPLAIN THAT HE IS TOO WEAK.
U Gotta Skate.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17693 Posts
October 01 2009 11:15 GMT
#48
Try and rape protoss by going early bio and switching to mech later. Marines wtfpwn goons early on, and if he's doing some fast tech to DT he's gonna get pwnt so hard it's not even funny. All you really need is a group of batmarines for early harass, add in some medics, keep the pressure, drop two tanks behind enemy lines while pushing with your bio and they're fuxored.
If you don't like late game, don't let the game get this far (I friggin hate lategame)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 01 2009 11:32 GMT
#49
Tossgirl vs Reach.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#50
Nah it's not just lategame, TvP is always retarded. You just favour playing builds that turtle until lategame. If you went for an earlier timing attack you'd be complaining about ridiculously easy to do flanks, shuttle bombs, storms and how relatively easy Protoss macro is.
No I'm never serious.
ZaDeX
Profile Joined May 2009
Venezuela27 Posts
October 01 2009 11:57 GMT
#51
agree tvp is fucking imba
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
October 01 2009 12:31 GMT
#52
Playing PvT lategame is the hardest tihng in the game for me. All Terrans seem to have agreed on that it's ok to whine everytime they loose. That mentality is so pathetic..
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 01 2009 12:53 GMT
#53
I agree the game is imbalanced in whatever condition is popular to talk about today
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
October 01 2009 12:56 GMT
#54
You gotta scan around more man and find that shit, getting caught off guard will GG you.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 01 2009 13:10 GMT
#55

Nony
The entirety of Terran strategy for every matchup can be summarized as waiting to get enough tanks to kill an entire army in one volley. Even the short-sighted and simple Terran players can recognize such a great imbalance. But I have to admit, having the fastest unit in the game on only the 2nd tier of tech with a short build time, that can shoot fragmentation grenades capable of vaporizing all peons, zerglings, zealots, defilers, and high and dark templar in seconds, and can even shoot these grenades backwards without losing acceleration, AND can shit out three mini-nukes that burrow into the ground only to pop out at the perfect time and seek out an enemy unit at an inescapable speed, gives siege tanks and their arclite cannons quite a run for their money.

Ah, how could I forget their cost? Let's make a list of units (excluding peons) that are cheaper than vultures:
--Zergling
--Marine

That was easy.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 01 2009 13:12 GMT
#56
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=70545
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 01 2009 13:12 GMT
#57
On October 01 2009 21:31 DarkShadowz wrote:
Playing PvT lategame is the hardest tihng in the game for me(...)

That's because you don't play Terran
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 13:30:50
October 01 2009 13:29 GMT
#58
On October 01 2009 22:12 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 21:31 DarkShadowz wrote:
Playing PvT lategame is the hardest tihng in the game for me(...)

That's because you don't play Terran

I sure do in for fun games.

I tihnk Nonys post summarize it rather well. Every Race have their strengh and weaknesses and depending on your opponents skill they can increase/decrease theese atributs. They are all equally hard in their own way.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 01 2009 13:32 GMT
#59
Much like others have said, if you lost it's your fault, not the fault of an imbalanced unit. You talk about playing a perfect TvP game except for the mistake of failing to scan carriers; that's a pretty big mistake. You should be able to tell when something is up and hence you start scanning. In regards to your rant about maps in which carriers are very good, that should be a cue to scout thoroughly for carriers when you feel his army isn't the size it could be had he simply been massing ground.

fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
October 01 2009 13:47 GMT
#60
it takes a dragoon SIX fucken hits to kill a scv = WTF
bisu fanboy
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