Well, it's not just yet, I have about 3 months before I fly back to Jersey to see kids I graduated with back in 1999. However, I realize that I no longer have my 18 year old body and have taken initiative to get it back: got myself a personal trainer for the next 3 months.
Currently, as of 8/26/2009, I'm a little pudgeball at around 62kg (136lbs) and standing at 162cm (5'3)
Yes, I know, I'm pretty gross.
But I figure I'll post my stats here so that I can humble myself, (embarrass myself?) to keep motivation to do this.
Target goal: to lose at least 12kg (26lbs) of fat and gain some muscle. I can't do much about the height, I'm afraid.
I want to be about 52kg (115lbs) with more muscle weight. According to my trainer, my arms strength is just about average but my legs are weaker than the rest of my body, possibly why my knees always pop and hurt.
Since the exercise part is gonna be taken care of, now I need to change my eating habits. Anyone have any advice as to what kinds of foods I should eat? What can I make for dinner that would be good for after my workout? (Jamie's doing this with me too - so it'll be good for me to cook for the two of us) I'm looking for something that's pretty easy to make.
Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated ^^
I became a vegetarian 2 months ago (a bet) and lost like 10kg in those 2 months just because of that (although i'm afraid its equally distributed between muscle loss and fat loss cause I haven't been getting much exercise during those 2).
I guess your best bet is cutting on meat/snack consumption while exercising at least a little bit so your muscles don't fade away.
Oh and apparently a portion of that sweet/sour sauce that's common in some asian dishes is equal to eating about 30 hamburgers. So dont eat that.
On August 26 2009 11:58 nttea wrote: The atkins diet is the most effective in terms of weight loss.
I don't wanna be thin then die of a clogged artery... I mean, I know I should be eating more protein and stuff but don't really wanna eat chicken all the time... nor wanna drink protein shakes.
You so are not gross, but good luck with the training and i know you have the determination to reach your goal weight given the right motivation. I'm trying to get down to a lower weight too as you know and I've just been stuffing my face with vegetables and tofu. My mum says making your own soups using a blender is very nutritional - especially if you use lots of leafy veggies (and you know there aren't any scary chemicals going into the food then if you buy organic.)
I've been told time and again the first step is cutting out your bad habit junk foods (which for me is soda, ice cream, hamburgers and cookies etc.) All of which have been dumped for wholemeal cereal and low fat yoghurt plus some fruits.
On August 26 2009 11:54 Saracen wrote: Oh wow you're 28? O_O I thought you were 21 or something from VODs and whatnot...
Saracen you unabashed ass kisser! ;P
And as for foods to eat... well, you can eat anything you want, really - just less of it. Strict diets tend to fail after a while as they're hard to maintain. If you want to maintain dietary consistency, just eat gradually less.
On August 26 2009 11:58 nttea wrote: The atkins diet is the most effective in terms of weight loss.
i read somewhere that ppl on atkins do lose more weight initially over a month/2months/3months i forget what, but then after about a year, the weight loss is about the same as ppl on other 'normal' diets
but, since susie is looking for some relatively quick weight loss i guess atkins would prbly work...
On August 26 2009 12:04 Neos wrote: Wasn't there a thread about losing weight a while ago?
yes, but it's a lot of exercise help as well, I just want people to tell me some good things to make for dinner here already I don't eat much - in fact, I don't snack either. I have a bowl of cereal in the morning, almost always miss lunch cuz of work (that'll change) and then dinner (either Korean food, Indian, steak, pasta etc... whatever we feel like eating...)
I know I should eat small amounts all throughout the day... and once Sept comes along I'll be able to go out for lunch more often... but even then I usually eat out since all I can pack with me are sandwiches. HALP.
28......I actually thought you were just 21 or something..
on topic: don't go the radical diet way, like don't eat then work out to death. Try to eat less over time while doing some exercise.:D well if eating less is not really a problem for you then just go exercise.:D
Oooh! Do Competitive Ballroom!^^ It's my PE for this semester and it's really tiring but fun.
if you can, would be great to have a light dinner, with lotta veggies, and a normal lunch, so you can spend that energy in the afternoon (cause i dont think you would run joggings or work at night), but seems your work prevents you from eating regular lunches then i suggest avoiding meals with sauces, cause as said earlier, sauces such as sweet/sour are usually the fattest things in meals also try getting more chicken and fish/seafood instead of pork/beef/lamb hope you can succeed, wish you best of courage
I'm not trying to radically diet. I just want to know what foods are healthy to eat, etc. I'm not gonna starve myself or just eat greens and work out 24 hours. I just got a trainer, gonna see him 4 times a week, and I just wanna eat healthy.
imo spoiler should contain your current picture( atleast thats what i was expecting) when i had to lose weight i ate lemon, sweat a lot( probably sauna) and ran a lot. Thats pretty much all you need. If you do it hardcore you can lose 5-6 pounds in 3-4 days.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I just cannot eat several small meals through the day. Can't do it. At all. Ever. I've got it in my head that I won't look ripped if I do that.
So, whenever I feel like I need to lose weight and look ripped and hawt, I take three days and don't do anything. I don't eat, I don't exercise, I do absolutely nothing. Just kinda lay around and drink water (basically a cleansing). Then after the third day, I'll keep a banana and a warm bottle of water beside my bed, then after I wake up, I eat the banana, drink the bottle, then go run like a fucking thing that runs a lot. After a few days of this banana/water/running phase, I look a lot thinner. I feel better. I have more confidence.
Then I get drunk and eat shit then I'm back to square one.
If you want to sweat out those fats, well it's up to you. Looks like you have a trainer to sweat those fats out. If you're not really into eating (or at least can control your food intake) and gave a good plan to exercise then you should have no problem.:D
If you "just want to eat healthy" then it's probably best just to follow the food pyramid and whatnot. Just ignore junk food as much as you can, and if you're exercising regularly, you should definitely be able to trim up in three months. And you can always find a dietician.
just avoid fast food, greasy food, and soda. Soda is pretty key. it's can dangerous to try and lose like 5 pounds in under a week. you will probably eat a ton afterwards and end up gaining it all back.
i only eat fast food and soda like once every two weeks. Sometimes i go without it for two months or three months.
On August 26 2009 12:04 Neos wrote: Wasn't there a thread about losing weight a while ago?
yes, but it's a lot of exercise help as well, I just want people to tell me some good things to make for dinner here already I don't eat much - in fact, I don't snack either. I have a bowl of cereal in the morning, almost always miss lunch cuz of work (that'll change) and then dinner (either Korean food, Indian, steak, pasta etc... whatever we feel like eating...)
I know I should eat small amounts all throughout the day... and once Sept comes along I'll be able to go out for lunch more often... but even then I usually eat out since all I can pack with me are sandwiches. HALP.
Like someone else mentioned, the sauces in Korean/Chinese/Indian (especially) are killer.
Take a look at a glycemic index and try to find foods on the lower end of it, which will basically translate into higher fiber, less sugar. I don't know if it's possible to get brown rice over there, but it's a lot better than white.
Kellogg's has been releasing more and more meal replacement foods, so they might be good for snacks or if you can't get lunch. The downside is that they actually taste really good (at least the bars and shakes), so it's easy to overdo them.
At school, I end up having a shit ton of turkey sandwiches on wheat bread because the food they serve is awful and unhealthy, and it works out pretty well. Like someone else here, I can't do 5-6 meals a day. It just doesn't fit into my schedule and I don't enjoy it very much, but I still do pretty well eating 2 very healthy meals (breakfast + lunch) and a decently healthy (still splurge on dessert too much) meal for dinner.
It's good that you're looking to add muscle. Most women shy away from it because they're afraid of looking like a female body builder, but that simply won't happen unless you drop to like 10% body fat. Not only does it burn calories during the exercise, but muscle tissue uses more energy during downtime as well.
Oh, and alcohol is bad. You can still drink, but I don't think you can do half a Rekrul drinking cycle and lose weight.
sup, i began about a month ago on a weight gain plan and have done tons of research so i know a bit about weight loss (most of the material out there is weight loss related). as i type this i'm eating my 4th meal/snack of the day: cereal with protein shake/soy milk and a yogurt. pretty tasty if u ask me
eat a large breakfast, get that metabolism going early on in the day and keep it going with small snacks throughout.
light dinner.
cardio needs to be of a certain intensity and duration to get max results. balance this out for yourself e.g. sprinting for 5min aint gonna do it, but a snail pace jog for 45min aint that great either.
have a cheat meal once or twice a week (but no more) where you can eat all that shit you've been dreaming about throughout the rest of the week. and you will be dreaming, at least until you form the habit of eating unprocessed foods, steamed vegetables, etc. habits take about a month to form, so rough it out for a month and you're good to go.
hydrate with water and tea. only drink coke at your cheat meal, one coke can just make your hour long workout from that day irrelevant.
i'd say physical transformations are majority diet, next sleep/stress, and least importantly working out. you are what you eat, yea?
count your daily caloric intake for a normal week where you maintain the same weight--your diet should be 500 calories less. weigh yourself in the morning at the same time every week so you can adjust your daily diet accordingly. with a 500 caloric deficit, you'll be making steady progress and won't be starving or out of energy, and the weight won't yo-yo back on.
haha starting 8 weeks ago I went to the gym 5 times a week doing cardio + weight lifting for ~2 hrs / day and as of today I lost a grand total of 0 lbs hopefully you can do better! diet is more important than exercise though.
If you drink soda, coffee, etc., the way that helped me to kick them was fruit smoothies.
Look for a product called naked juice, which is made of strictly blended fruit. If you can't find them, I would typically buy a juice called apple strawberry orange juice, cut up a half of a banana, throw in 6-7 strawberries, and add ice. Blend it all up, and it tastes great. However, you may wanna try some of the fruit that you enjoy in place of some of the others.
On August 26 2009 12:24 Saracen wrote: There. Can you read it better? Probably shouldn't be arguing with a guy named "food" though, sounds like you really know your stuff... ... ...
were you sarcastic initially?.. i know a shit ton of people who suggested eating eggs/milk etc as a part of a "diet". So i took your comment seriously i do know quite a bit about losing weight tho! are u mad? let me know, i cant pick a tone for my response yet
On August 26 2009 12:24 Saracen wrote: There. Can you read it better? Probably shouldn't be arguing with a guy named "food" though, sounds like you really know your stuff... ... ...
were you sarcastic initially?.. i know a shit ton of people who suggested eating eggs/milk etc as a part of a "diet". So i took your comment seriously i do know quite a bit about losing weight tho! are u mad? let me know, i cant pick a tone for my response yet
Haha I'm not mad, but are you implying that you were pudgy before? ^_^
On August 26 2009 12:24 Saracen wrote: There. Can you read it better? Probably shouldn't be arguing with a guy named "food" though, sounds like you really know your stuff... ... ...
were you sarcastic initially?.. i know a shit ton of people who suggested eating eggs/milk etc as a part of a "diet". So i took your comment seriously i do know quite a bit about losing weight tho! are u mad? let me know, i cant pick a tone for my response yet
Haha I'm not mad, but are you implying that you were pudgy before? ^_^
lol no, im skinny as fuck. My dad was losing weight just about 1000 times and right now hes skinny as fawk too~ i had to lose weight for soem competition where i had to be under certain limit, thats how i know. I literally lost 6 pounds in 2 days even though im skin and bones lol
On August 26 2009 12:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: props on your goal to diet. But... i think a HS reunion is probably the single worst reason i've ever heard of to diet. gl though!
i wouldn't really worry about it, everyone is fatter at their 10yr reunion
edit: to clarify, i'm not discouraging you from dieting, but if you're going to diet and exercise and eat healthy, do it for health reasons -- doing it for a single event is just going to make you inconsistent once the reunion passes
HS reunions are built around coming back and bragging about yourself. Sounds like the perfect reason to go on a diet to me, don't know what you guys are talking about.
If you don't want to eat chicken every night there are a lot of things that are just as good. Any kind of fish fillet, tilapia, salmon, catfish, etc. or white meat pork, all very high in protein and very low in fat. Unless you smother the fish in tartar sauce, then I guess it's not that good for you. Keep your metabolism going throughout the day by eating things like fruit / vegetables / salads / yogurt / cottage cheese / high fiber cereal / hard boiled egg whites / etc.
I always thought it was all the beer and steaks you consume in Korea. I'm pretty sure if you cut back on those and exercised you could lose some weight, but I'm not about the entire 12 kg. You could always stalk progamers and take picture of them or something- that'd be good exercise
losing 20% of your weight is no easy feat, especially if you don't have that much body fat to start with... ultimately I don't think it really matters what diet you choose as long as you're exercising more calories than you're intaking.
On August 26 2009 13:26 GhostKorean wrote: I always thought it was all the beer and steaks you consume in Korea. I'm pretty sure if you cut back on those and exercised you could lose some weight, but I'm not about the entire 12 kg. You could always stalk progamers and take picture of them or something- that'd be good exercise
I don't stalk, but trust me - taking photos of the progamers will not lose you any weight. Considering the amount of food parties I've had with eSTRO I'm not losing any weight this year!
I didn't read this whole thing, but the biggest thing you can do to help yourself is to plan all your meals ahead of time. Being out and realizing you have to eat is one of the worst things that can happen, because then you get stuck eating at some cafe and probably breaking your diet.
Susie, since you live in korea go to a 한의원 and ask for 쌀빼는 한약. my dads one( 한의사) and the files that ive lookeda t people loosing weight is incredible. Acupuncture/ proper diet/ 한약 will lose u 15 + pounds if u are really determined.
On August 26 2009 11:58 nttea wrote: The atkins diet is the most effective in terms of weight loss.
I don't wanna be thin then die of a clogged artery... I mean, I know I should be eating more protein and stuff but don't really wanna eat chicken all the time... nor wanna drink protein shakes.
I've heard Atkins referred to as a "low-carb ripoff diet." I don't know the exact specifics of Atkins, but there's some things it advocates that other low-carb diets don't such as unfermented soy, raw vegetables, and of course all the processed junk they sell. Anyway, I'll agree with the general premise. I believe that a low carbohydrate diet or lifestyle choice is the most effective in terms of weight loss, and specifically fat loss. And you won't get heart disease.
Basically, on this diet you should eat things like: All meats with full fat. Dark meat chicken, fatty steak (ribeye, yum), pork belly, etc. Eggs with yolk of course Full fat cheese Raw Milk or Table Cream since even grocery store whole milk is fairly watered down. Cooked vegetables
If you want to bring something to work to eat, chicken, ground beef, sausage, etc. hold up in the microwave pretty well.
When you do eat carbohydrates, eat them sparingly and avoid sugar, juices, and highly processed carbs.
Traditional weight loss diets are based on cutting calories, which leads to semi-starvation. It will help you lose weight, but they leave people hungry and sap them of energy. This combination of the body's decreased energy output and hunger is why so many people struggle on these diets. You also lose large amounts of muscle on this kind of diet, and your goal is to lose fat, not muscle.
Low-carb diets are high in animal fat, moderate in protein, and low in carbohydrates. This combination does a better job of satiating hunger and is the human body's preferred energy source. Most low carb diets allow you to eat unrestricted calories as long as you keep your carb count below a certain amount (something like 30g-60g max) and eat plenty of animal fat. Keep in mind things like fruit are still carbs and should be factored into your daily carb limit. The diets work despite unrestricted calories because the body can burn off excess calories as heat and the body won't slow down its the metabolism like a semi-starvation diet does.
Carbohydrates trigger the body's insulin response which slows down the metabolism of body fat and causes your body to sore more of it. This is why sugar is especially fattening and the first thing removed in any weight loss diet. More complex carbohydrates also produce a lower insulin response, but animal fats produce no insulin response.
Animal fat doesn't lead to heart disease. Here is a somewhat short explanation: Cholesterol levels show some correlation with heart disease, but people with low cholesterol levels show higher rates of cancer. The all death rate is about the same. More accurate tests such as High Density Lipid (HDL), Low Density Lipid (LDL), triglyceride measurements show a much greater correlation with heart disease. These lipids carry cholesterol and triglycerides throughout the bloodstream. When a person eats a heavy carb meal (especially a sugary one), the liver produces more triglycerides, which requires more lipids to carry it. The presence of excessive LDL and triglycerides along with a low level of HDL is what correlates strongly with heart disease. I also want to specify that it's not the presence of HDL or LDL cholesterol, it's the lipids themselves. HDL and LDL cholesterol are the same cholesterol and that level is irrelevant. It's the number of lipids and triglycerides that matter.
Traditional human diets prefer high fat, low carbohydrate diets as well. Before the birth of farming and civilzation, humans hunted animals and gathered some fruits, vegetables, and nuts. Animals provided the bulk of the calories and humans had a preference for fatty animals. Native Americans hunted older buffaloes because of they had larger deposits of fat than the younger ones. The vegetables needed cooking or fermentation before being digested and the fruits in traditional diets had less fructose in them than the fruits today, which have been bred to be sweeter. Some populations live entirely off of meat and fat, like traditional eskimos and they are free of obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc.
I like the low carb, high fat diet because I get to eat foods I love. It's high energy food and satiating. If you have tried other diets, and haven't had much success, then I highly recommend giving this a try for a couple months. I tried to keep this post short, yet it still ended up 3 times longer than I wanted it, but hopefully it helps.
I can't do weigh watchers as it's not available in Korea. I've been to a 한의원 before and it just makes me so hungry that I'd rather just eat sensibly.
I don't drink and eat steak all the time, either Ever since all our guests left for the summer I've barely drank (just that one night with some TLers on the 21st.) Only went to the all you can eat steak place cuz it's a good place to entertain group meetings.
Basically it's just the fast foods - not even the burgers and fries but even the Korean food I eat are heavy in sodium from what I hear. We tend to eat a lot of processed stuff since it's convenient, but I guess I can go and buy brown rice to mix with the white when I cook at home. I definitely am looking to get into a habit of eating better. (and saving some money while at it.)
Celery is expensive in Korea. So are banana and they are all processed. Funny how in America there are so many resources and foods one can eat to be healthier yet .... yeah.
So... more fish and chicken... maybe roasted potatoes... salads. Steamed veggies? Lean steak or pork, no sauce.
On August 26 2009 12:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: props on your goal to diet. But... i think a HS reunion is probably the single worst reason i've ever heard of to diet. gl though!
That too. Why are you going? o.o
Cuz I was always friendly with most the kids at my school and I am genuinely curious as to what they have all been up to in the last 10 years. Yes, we have facebook for that now, but still. Also, gives me a chance to go back to the States for a week.
Low carb diets are not sustainable. That's the #1 problem of all diets in general, and especially of low carb diets. If you really want to do it right, you change the way you eat every day and you don't call it a diet, because that usually implies temporary change.
On August 26 2009 12:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: props on your goal to diet. But... i think a HS reunion is probably the single worst reason i've ever heard of to diet. gl though!
That too. Why are you going? o.o
Cuz I was always friendly with most the kids at my school and I am genuinely curious as to what they have all been up to in the last 10 years. Yes, we have facebook for that now, but still. Also, gives me a chance to go back to the States for a week.
Ah, hope it works out well. Everyone I've talked to that's been to one said it was awkward... and depressing when you meet the people whose highpoint was highschool. D:
EDIT: Depending on your cooker, you might need to 50/50 the brown/white rice. Mine turns out weird with all brown.
Hi Susie, you should really consider eating 5-6 small meals a day. The best way to do this in my experience is to pack a snack for between breakfast and lunch, then split your lunch up into two meals.
Also, and I know it really sucks, you will do much better for yourself if you don't eat after 8:00ish PM. Your metabolism naturally slows as evening sets in and it prepares for sleep, so late night munchies are generally stored mostly as fat.
I've gotten pretty into healthy eating, so I'll give you my shpeal.
Humans evolved to eat meat (grass-fed), seafood, nuts, fruit, and vegetables (all organic). This is embodied in the paleo diet. In general, it's best to stick to those categories. But at all costs, avoid processed/fast food. Simply by cooking your own meals, you're doing your body a great service.
Also, read a book like The Omnivore's Dilemma for motivation. Realizing what you're putting into your body will encourage you to eat healthier.
Then just start running, and you'll shed pounds. But before you do, read this.
I am not a big expert like the other posters, but imo the main thing about dieting is self control. You will want these really unhealthy foods for a while, so i suggest just fill the craving with water. After a while you will start to not want them as much.
anyway, once you can control yourself, the rest will come much quicker.
Anyway, generic advice here: vegetables, fruits, whole grains, lean meats and fish with healthy fats in small quantities. Get some regular exercise and try to be more active (walking instead of taking the bus), etc. It's little things like that that really help out.
the biggest thing is be careful on snacking/snack foods. After that, protein is one of the most important factors. A nice little meal I eat a lot is chicken in a peanut sauce on some lettuce it tastes really good and is good for you.
You won't die of a clogged artery from atkins diet, i mean you just want to lose weight asap right? if you don't feel like starving yourself then atkin's the way to go. Even if you don't go for that stay away from all fast carbohydrates and you should be fine! btw i always thought you looked great.
On August 26 2009 12:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: props on your goal to diet. But... i think a HS reunion is probably the single worst reason i've ever heard of to diet. gl though!
That too. Why are you going? o.o
Cuz I was always friendly with most the kids at my school and I am genuinely curious as to what they have all been up to in the last 10 years. Yes, we have facebook for that now, but still. Also, gives me a chance to go back to the States for a week.
Yeah, facebook is more about reading people's inane thoughts typed out onto the status bar and not really caring since they tend to be somewhat lame. The pictures are nice though ^^
On August 26 2009 14:14 Ingenol wrote: Hi Susie, you should really consider eating 5-6 small meals a day. The best way to do this in my experience is to pack a snack for between breakfast and lunch, then split your lunch up into two meals.
Also, and I know it really sucks, you will do much better for yourself if you don't eat after 8:00ish PM. Your metabolism naturally slows as evening sets in and it prepares for sleep, so late night munchies are generally stored mostly as fat.
I want to adhere to that - (the 8pm thing) BUT.... I get off work at 6:30/7pm. Then gym at 7:30 until 8:30... then I wanna eat dinner.
Don't worry lilsusie, this will be a cake walk for you. people look at losing weight as some insurmountable task and quickly become discouraged and unmotivated. losing weight is 90% mental and 10% physical. my best advice to you is -don't check your weight everyday. once a week or even once every other week will help your mentality. -the smaller but more often meals thing does help a lot. keeps your metabolism rate high. -personal trainers are great. it'll make sure that it'll keep you honest. make sure you let your friends know that you are going to a personal trainer so that they'll be able to call you out if you start flaking out on your personal trainer.
All I know is that 3 of my friends who recently picked up drinking on a fairly regular basis have gained a LOT of weight (like... extremely noticeable weight gain).
I personally dont drink at all but it might be a good thing to cut out of your diet to help lose weight.
I'm from LI, takes about about an hour to get to Jersey depending on how close to the city you are. I could stand next to you to make you look skinner if wanted.
As a celebration to mark the first day of this this epic endeavour, I propose we all go to that all-you-can-eat steak place and then get completely plastered afterwards.
Also, not to knock any diet-gurus around TL, but seeing how incredibly obsessed Koreans are about their weight and dieting, have you tried asking your co-workers for effective methods?
you're motivated to train to impress people that are no longer in your life and don't matter at all and will continue to not be in your life...but ur not motivated by the people in your everyday life...........interesting
Alot of people I know don't actually like chicken, not sure why. Anyways things you will need 3/4 tsp of cumin 2 tsp curry powder 1 tsp turmeric 1 cup unsweetened coconut milk 1 tsp of olive oil 1/2 tsp rice vinegar 1/2 tsp of honey 600g of boneless chicken breasts (Dice into chunks) 2 capsicums (whichever ones you prefer, also dice this up) 1/2 a pineapple (also diced) skewers (probably 7-8) And of course salt and pepper
*Make sure when you're dicing those ingredients that they are not too small otherwise they can fall off 1) Toast the spices in a frying pan for about 20 seconds on low heat. 2) In a large bowl, whisk together the toasted spices, coconut milk, olive oil, vinegar, honey, and a pinch of salt and pepper. 3) Add diced chicken into the bowl with all the ingredients and let it sit and marinate for at least 1 hour (the longer the better). 4) Skew chicken, pineapple and capsicum onto skewers. 5) Grill until chicken is cooked Note - Should turn every few minutes to evenly cook through. Should look something like this
On August 26 2009 17:07 Rekrul wrote: you're motivated to train to impress people that are no longer in your life and don't matter at all and will continue to not be in your life...but ur not motivated by the people in your everyday life...........interesting
someone explain the psychology of that
From a Psych standpoint most people see friends as someone required to do right by them; meaning to say a friends words actually carry less weight to a person then a strangers - or a familiar face not necessarily a friend.
Eat like 5 times a day, avoid sugar and other fast carbs. If you're going to work out your body will need atleast some carbs during the day so preferbly before noon.
Eat plenty of fruit,nuts and vegetables, fat fish(containing omega3 fats)such as salomon and makerell + tuna and chicken.
Calorie Countdown milk rocks. Instead of sugar in the milk they use splenda. It tastes really good, and you can even get chocolate milk... but it's ~2.99 a half gallon(2x+ more expensive than reg milk).
No easy way to lose weight really, as it is there for a reason, isn't it? The theory would be to eat less calories than you burn each day, and you will be on your way to a slimmer body. Just eat EXACTLY as much as before and exercise more. Diets are horrible! A waste of time, especially if they contain cereal and soy. All that i can advise, as have others in the thread is to try to cut down on the carbohydrates and that includes booze.
When I was pretty chubby, all I did was eat Celery and Run.
Whenever I wanted some chips, I would just grab a bad of celery and eat it until the word "I'm hungry" vanished from my thoughts.
Running daily isn't a big deal. All you have to do is make running into a daily habit. In my personal preference, running on those shitty machines suck. It really makes running alot less fun. Running out in the sun feels alot better and if you live in a nice place, you can enjoy the small things in life :D
On August 26 2009 17:07 Rekrul wrote: you're motivated to train to impress people that are no longer in your life and don't matter at all and will continue to not be in your life...but ur not motivated by the people in your everyday life...........interesting
someone explain the psychology of that
watch "Zack and Miri make a porno" and you will get it.
I'm SURE your trainer would be willing to give you diet advice on weight loss.
If not, go with fish and chicken for your meats (but don't eat too much meat), avoid fatty and greasy foods, eat less/almost no sweets (and less/no bread as well). Remember veggies. Chips/fries and most other party snacks are suicidal for weight loss.
Also no beer if you must drink drink hard liquor lol. Rice is also similar to bread so don't just eat a bunch of rice instead of healthy stuff to diet. Salads are good too.
Hope I'm not too late for this thread, although I suspect most of this has been said.
I was 45kg (100lbs) in HS. I know most of the other students are fatter now... but I don't wanna be like them. I've been wanting to do this weight loss/ get in shape thing for awhile, but never really had the motivation - this reunion, I guess, gave me a tangible goal to aim for. It's Nov 28th - so I have about 3 months. I know I'm not gonna lose it all during that time, but I just wanna fit back into my clothes better and feel better about myself.
On August 26 2009 17:07 Rekrul wrote: you're motivated to train to impress people that are no longer in your life and don't matter at all and will continue to not be in your life...but ur not motivated by the people in your everyday life...........interesting
On August 26 2009 17:07 Rekrul wrote: you're motivated to train to impress people that are no longer in your life and don't matter at all and will continue to not be in your life...but ur not motivated by the people in your everyday life...........interesting
someone explain the psychology of that
This is actually pretty thought-provoking Dan :O
Rekrul is one of the most mysterious people on this site lol.
One day his posts are all in caps and the next he writes a thought-provoking blog/story/post.
I suspect his personality is different in person, but so is everybodies.
Make all your meals, never eat out ever, eat 6 times a day, workout after work is done, avoid fats, etcetcetc. There's tons of info in the TL Fitness thread, and plenty of pple who will gladly advise you on a dietary plan.
But as Dan implies, I'd urge you to use your reunion as a catalyst to a healthier lifestyle, rather than using it as a temporary motivator. I can tell you from experience that once you really commit to living and eating well, you're going to have inertia (LOL DAN AGAIN??) on your side in maintaining it. Though it can definitely get painful at times lol. I've eaten identical meals for the last 2 months basically P
I'm about 5'4 and weigh about 128 lbs, much of my younger life was spent waaaaay underweight (105-115lbs). And now, I'm working on maintaining my weight and not gaining any more, as well as reducing any body fat (current pic in profile). Anyway if you want to hear my advice for getting skinnier, I think it's all about the amount of food that you eat.
Naturally, if you're intaking less food than you're used to you WILL lose weight. Sounds simple, but could prove very hard for a lot of people. The process of eating less food will be tough on your stomach at first, but eventually it'll get easier because your stomach will shrink, and eventually you'll just feel full after eating less, surprisingly enough.
Anyway, if you're working with a trainer, running and lifting should make you lose weight steadily if you're pushing yourself. Just remember that after workouts is when you're going to be most hungry, so if you're going to eat, remember to eat right. Fruit and lean meat is really good. If you're serious about losing weight, you have to be willing to eat some bland foods, as well as put time into preparing it. I also reccomend bringing a protein shake with you while you're at the gym as it serves 2 purposes:
1. Helps you build muscle mass 2. Actually gives you energy to complete workouts, and helps you become less hungry afterwards.
I have a rather "out of the box" solution to trim yourself down but I think it's so "out of the box" that I'll have to PM you about it, but of course I'll pm you about it if you want to know what it is.
On August 26 2009 17:07 Rekrul wrote: you're motivated to train to impress people that are no longer in your life and don't matter at all and will continue to not be in your life...but ur not motivated by the people in your everyday life...........interesting
someone explain the psychology of that
Uhm, maybe because you'll see these people just for this one time again and I'm sure that if it was your hs reunion, you'd want to leave a good impression that you didn't spend the last 10 years gaining weight.
damn, this thing actually goes around hahahaha. People tend to make an impact on the people they rarely see than the people they see everyday. Maybe because you know that you have this one chance of impressing them. On the other hand, you know that you'll have until death to impress the people you see everyday.
There's nothing wrong with losing some weight to look good in front of your old friends and feel better about yourself. A lot of obese people use the excuse of "I don't care how others perceive me" to live unhealthy lifestyles.
On August 26 2009 20:22 Zidane wrote: There's nothing wrong with losing some weight to look good in front of your old friends and feel better about yourself. A lot of obese people use the excuse of "I don't care how others perceive me" to live unhealthy lifestyles.
To each their own.
uh no, they live that unhealthy lifestyle because they are depressed and have low self esteem
'i don't carehow others perceive me' is just what they tell themselves to maintain some mental sanity
to lose weight to feel better about yourself for a couple days infront of nobodis then gain it all back is very stupid
Please drop by Princeton when you're around! We have a couple of cool events going on in November (I think a Smash Invitational, if you're interested in that sort of thing), and we might host a live CSL match or something. We also have a bunch of TL'ers lying around campus.
On August 26 2009 17:23 Pulimuli wrote: Eat like 5 times a day, avoid sugar and other fast carbs. If you're going to work out your body will need atleast some carbs during the day so preferbly before noon.
Eat plenty of fruit,nuts and vegetables, fat fish(containing omega3 fats)such as salomon and makerell + tuna and chicken.
Omega 3 makes it easier for your body to burn fat
yep listen to this guy.
Also never ever skip a meal, if you do that the body will save more energy in case it won't get any food the next time and you will gain lots of weight if you do it often. Sumowrestlers only eat twice a day. That's why they are so fat they don't eat more then other people that work out a lot.
Basically vegetarian meals are very healthy. You don't have to follow it and can add some fish and chicken. There are different kind of fats and thoose are the ones you want. But go for something more in the vegetarian direction.
I wouldn't advice you to do weight lifting but instead focus on your stamina. There are two main reasons for this. First of when you do weight lifting and pull hard with your muscles you take energy from your sugar depots. Wich will just be refilled after the workout. when you have low frequency/for example running you burn from your fat depos. That's what you're after and most girls. Second reason is simply that girls can't gain strengh, but they can get good stamina.
Good luck and remember the best workout is the one that gets done. Simple things like taking the stairs instead of the elevator, walk to things instead of driving and so on means a ton to your average foe in todays society.
I wouldn't advice you to do weight lifting but instead focus on your stamina. There are two main reasons for this. First of when you do weight lifting and pull hard with your muscles you take energy from your sugar depots. Wich will just be refilled after the workout. when you have low frequency/for example running you burn from your fat depos.
Running without strength building is one of the fastest ways to lose muscle, which is especially dangerous in the legs (not just unsightly, but bad for knees/hips.) It's fine if you're light to begin with, but if you're starting with weak legs or are heavier, it's a bad idea. And your "science" makes zero sense. Strength building is never bad until your muscle limits your function (ie. body building trying to run.)
And that Time's article was terrible. The author's premise (exercise makes you eat more, offsetting the exercise) is easily nullified by better meal planning and things like protein shakes, and may not even be true. The science in it isn't really relevant to most people and the survey's data is dubious (fat middle aged women, please fill out a survey telling us how you're doing!) LA Times has a rebuttal, including some of the experts cited in the original article. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/08/exercise-weight-loss.html
Weight loss is pretty simple, just hard to do. Burn more calories than you intake
Just drop everything thats sweet with alot of sugar and fat, Like chips and candy. Replace it with fruits and veggies you like. Do your normal daily stuff and add another 2-3 workout days a week and you will be down in no time.
At a reunion, there's always clear winners and clear losers. Susie doesn't want to be the latter.
Of course she should give a fuck but, hey, everyone does give a little fuck even if they don't admit it. With your friends you are just way more comfortable, to the point where you really dont give a fuck.
They will just like you for who you are.
Little ninja edit because I went slightly off-topic: I can't really contribute, because I luckily never had to follow a diet. But I guess you already got enough tips.
OK guys the thing about eating 5 times a day is bullshit though. It doesn't hurt your blood sugar levels and mood, but it won't help you loose weight faster.
On August 27 2009 22:22 Foucault wrote: OK guys the thing about eating 5 times a day is bullshit though. It doesn't hurt your blood sugar levels and mood, but it won't help you loose weight faster.
It's all about calories- in and out.
It prevents your body from going into starvation/conservation mode and helps makes sure you don't get ravenous hunger that causes you to eat more than you should.
On August 27 2009 22:22 Foucault wrote: OK guys the thing about eating 5 times a day is bullshit though. It doesn't hurt your blood sugar levels and mood, but it won't help you loose weight faster.
It's all about calories- in and out.
It prevents your body from going into starvation/conservation mode and helps makes sure you don't get ravenous hunger that causes you to eat more than you should.
Yep but that's all indirect regarding to weight loss. It doesn't help you burn more fat from eating at more occasions.
Anyways, I usually eat breakfast, then some before my workout and the most of my total calorie intake afterwards; like 1000-2000 kcal. I do just fine, and I throw in protein shakes here and there during the day
Everyone's an expert on weight loss, especially fat people. Just ask em and they'll tell you how to lose weight.
But since I'm also a self-proclaimed pompous know-it-all...
eat like a caveman lower the carbs drop the grains listen to VictorW on page 3 saturated fat is good for you so eat it load up on natural sources of fat and protein get your carbs from fuits, vegs, nuts, and seeds probably 80% of your body composition is due to diet lift some weights aerobic exercise helps, but not as much as you think intermittent fasting 5-6 meals a day is unnecessary bullshit and only applies if your body is on the glucose-dependent insulin roller coaster.
eating 5 times a day is the hardest thing for me to do. I sit in front of a computer all day. It blows. and when it gets busy, it's hard to find food to eat, it's easier to starve all day and eat at night. bleh.
it's ok, i've already taken the initiative. we'll see how I look and feel at the end of 3 months.
I'm probably not the best person to be giving advice on losing weight since I'm trying to go the opposite way (5'7ish, 120lbs trying to gain weight) but I figured I would wish you good luck anyway.
A friend of the family apparently trimmed down her waist/stomach region very noticeably by doing lots (100+) of stomach crunches daily, might be something to look into.
Where in Jersey are you going to be? I'm in NYC everyday for work, right by NY Penn. Would be cool to finally be part of a TL meetup of sorts.
That's a really radical goal for weight loss isn't it? :S I think you'd be better off changing to a more healthy lifestyle than setting specific number goals.
Just eat a well rounded diet, make sure you're getting all your vitamins, and avoid deep fried food, chicken skin, fudge... whatever. You can have a perfectly tasty and normal diet if you just start eating lots of fruit and bread and other normal things. If you're really that concerned, I would ask a nutritionist to give you advice on what your personal ideal weight should be (in terms of health), and what are healthy ways of achieving it.
Yeah, I mean, that's the ultimate goal, I definitely don't htink i'll do it by the time November rolls around. Being completely realistic, between work and ... work, it'll be pretty tough. I've already cut out fried stuff and pizzas and such and also cut out sodas. Been cooking at home more (fish and chicken breasts) and drinking more water. All this healthy food makes me wanna eat more though, that's the problem.
don't eat a few big meals. instead, you should eat lots of smaller meals. that means that you never really get too hungry (and if you're really hungry you'll probably overeat) and it keeps your metabolism (sp?) up.
EDIT: if you really feel like snacking inbetween meals you should snack on fruits or healthy food like celery.
2 month for 10 kg + is really a lot. i didn´t manage to lose so much before summerholidays. But best is still less white bread, nudles, potatos and more fruits and vegetables, drink only waterr, tea without sugar and do sports, running biking or running stairs up and down for the ass and situps for the stomack
I've seen someone do this before their wedding and the results are no joke! best of all.. you dont need soo much equipment~
I've heard it also works since it's pretty much a workout vid of straightup exercises. I've gone through the arm and chest vid before and couldn't finish the whole thing ... and I'm not really that much outta shape.