EPTUS Politics Feedback Thread - Page 173
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Plansix
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zlefin
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not that I'd have high hopes; people who start with fact sets like that, things rarely go well. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
Jimmi also got dogpiled a bit and responded very poorly to it. But the assumption of his whiteness seemed to be when the gloves came off on his side, and led to the racism he threw back at GH. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On July 26 2018 07:31 IgnE wrote: jimmic is white though, right? Mixed race, apparently. Don't know which. | ||
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brian
United States9639 Posts
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Plansix
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
"mixed breed" ie scottish and english? | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On July 25 2018 23:46 Seeker wrote: Can someone explain the whole JimmiC vs GH thing to me? I may be wrong but it seems like JimmiC just attacked GH out of the blue. And then a giant shit-storm of back and forths took place afterwards. What was JimmiC's main point? What was GH's main point? My take is: GreenHorizons asked " In what measurable ways has the gap between white and Black people closed since the 60's?" in this post, in the context of a conversation with Kwark among others. Given his track history several people in the thread expressed the opinion (in as many words) that this question and his subsequent behaviour was deliberate bait for GH to snipe at whoever tried to answer it, rather than a prelude to a reasonable discussion. JimmiC replies with some statement about Obama and "Your soap box is getting very tippy". GreenHorizons replies with pure vitriol. JimmiC replies with some more nastiness and "instead of me doing work and then you claiming its propaganda, how about you do some work". From that point onwards they're largely talking at cross purposes, although I will say Jimmi ponied up with a substantive post well before GH did. I don't think JimmiC's examples precisely addressed the question of the gap, as opposed to increase in general conditions, but I think they addressed it to some degree. tl;dr: Jimmi fired the first shot that I can see. On the other hand the entire thing could have been avoided if GH had sourced his original statement instead of spoiling for a fight, or if GH had shown the slightest interest in deescalation. The crack from GH referring to Jimmi's self-identification as "the whitest thing you could have said" was a pretty significant escalation IMO. As for their actual points, as far as I know Jimmi agreed with a fair bit of GreenHorizons' overall argument but thought the claim about the 60s was an overreach, and that eliminating or clarifying it would strengthen the overall argument. He did approach it pretty cackhanded, seemingly out of previous frusturation with GH. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9792 Posts
Ever since then JimmyC has been sniping his posts. That's what it looks like to me anyway. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12420 Posts
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GreenHorizons
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Sermokala
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ShoCkeyy
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On July 27 2018 10:48 Sermokala wrote: He probably sold his account to a russian propaganda firm. Ive gotten an offer before. Really? That's interesting. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
College football message board accounts with some social standing are really valuable. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23762 Posts
On July 27 2018 10:48 Sermokala wrote: He probably sold his account to a russian propaganda firm. Ive gotten an offer before. Must be why I like him so much more now. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
No I think Latin/American, but I don't know if it was confirmed for sure. I'm guessing he's not vanilla white given how angry he got over the comment. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 27 2018 20:05 farvacola wrote: New Jonny=Best Jonny The only Jonny I want to know. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On July 25 2018 00:16 zlefin wrote: an interesting hypothesis; I wonder if enough of the silent people read this thread for a poll to be useful? iirc polls often get more people answering than are otherwise active in the thread. not sure about optimal settings to use; requiring logins is better for authentication, but idunno what the overall user base is like and how many people just read. let's see what we get Poll: How do you feel about the job Seeker is doing in US pol moderation (Vote): Strongly Approve and now for the hard/fun part: interpreting poll results! we can all see what the numbers are, so what do we consider them to mean, if anything? do we take them as an overall endorsement of quality? it certainly looks like a decent enough overall result. I note that very few people chose slightly approve/disapprove; I forget the statistical term equivalent to polarisation, but that seemed to apply here. we lack any baseline result to compare to, at least that I'm aware of. are there any other polls in TL past that could serve as a basis? edit: oh, and now the number's are changing because more people are seeing the poll and taking a choice, that makes it more confusing. | ||
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