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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
July 24 2018 20:52 GMT
#3421
Seeker did you consider giving JimmicC and GH thread bans instead of normal ones? If yes, can you explain your reasoning behind choosing the latter?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22454 Posts
July 24 2018 20:57 GMT
#3422
On July 25 2018 05:52 Sent. wrote:
Seeker did you consider giving JimmicC and GH thread bans instead of normal ones? If yes, can you explain your reasoning behind choosing the latter?
I do not wish to speak for Seeker but I assume it is because of an earlier comment by mods about site banning people who primarily post in the USPOL thread and thread banning people who post more across the forums.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
July 24 2018 21:05 GMT
#3423
JimmiC is active in Sports and LoL forums.
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 24 2018 21:07 GMT
#3424
Last time gh was site banned because pms aren't a thread related offence.
So it is stated in the ban reasoning
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
July 24 2018 21:25 GMT
#3425
Oh nevermind, they got just 2 day bans. For some reason I thought it was 2 weeks.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 24 2018 22:13 GMT
#3426
Haha. That’s a good one.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 24 2018 22:40 GMT
#3427
I read two weeks as well, probably changed?
Life?
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
July 24 2018 23:23 GMT
#3428
On July 25 2018 05:27 Plansix wrote:
Ireceived more than a few PMs from GH before I told him to stop sending them. “Condescending” is an accurate discriptor.


Agreed. Just had an exchange with him that fits the characterisation.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
July 25 2018 14:46 GMT
#3429
Can someone explain the whole JimmiC vs GH thing to me?

I may be wrong but it seems like JimmiC just attacked GH out of the blue. And then a giant shit-storm of back and forths took place afterwards. What was JimmiC's main point? What was GH's main point?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 14:56:14
July 25 2018 14:54 GMT
#3430
JimmiC had begun actively posting in the politics thread a number of months ago and took the position that centrism was laudable and that extremes were/are a part of the problem facing US politics. Naturally, GH took issue with that stance and went about his usual tack of basically berating the opposing party into backing down, and given JimmiC's history of getting all riled up by the posts of folks like JimmyJ, he was an ideal target. The recent kerfluffle started when JimmiC asked GH whether the plight of black Americans had improved by any measurable stat since the 60s.

With that in mind, I don't think there's really an answer to "who started it"; both were/are culpable to some extent.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2018 15:08 GMT
#3431
Also, someone said JimmiC’s political views proved he was white, which got him real mad(he is not white). GHs constant condescension only added fuel to that fire.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 15:14:23
July 25 2018 15:14 GMT
#3432
On July 25 2018 23:46 Seeker wrote:
Can someone explain the whole JimmiC vs GH thing to me?

I may be wrong but it seems like JimmiC just attacked GH out of the blue. And then a giant shit-storm of back and forths took place afterwards. What was JimmiC's main point? What was GH's main point?

Much like farvacola mentioned, it was about the change in treatment for black folks in the US and whether things improved since.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 17:10:27
July 25 2018 17:03 GMT
#3433
On July 25 2018 23:46 Seeker wrote:
Can someone explain the whole JimmiC vs GH thing to me?

I may be wrong but it seems like JimmiC just attacked GH out of the blue. And then a giant shit-storm of back and forths took place afterwards. What was JimmiC's main point? What was GH's main point?

I'm not completely clear on it; at which point was the attack?
if it's at the point I'm thinking of the two of them were going at it for quite awhile before that I think. including a bunch of very poor quality arguing.
it seemed to me like an escalation born out of frustration at poor posting/arguing by the "other".
I vaguely recall gh makin some points that were just plain wrong, and demonstrated to be wrong, but he just kept shifting the goalposts or something.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 19:05:39
July 25 2018 18:51 GMT
#3434
The post about his political views proving he was white was in the middle and probably what pushed it over the edge. GH is impossible to make any headway with and takes any difficulty in his arguing as a need to retaliate against whoever hes argueing with. With the racial arguments that hes favored to it makes an almost intolerable atmosphere.

Hes the type of guy who doesn't like Wu tang clan.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
July 25 2018 19:07 GMT
#3435
On July 26 2018 02:03 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2018 23:46 Seeker wrote:
Can someone explain the whole JimmiC vs GH thing to me?

I may be wrong but it seems like JimmiC just attacked GH out of the blue. And then a giant shit-storm of back and forths took place afterwards. What was JimmiC's main point? What was GH's main point?

I'm not completely clear on it; at which point was the attack?
if it's at the point I'm thinking of the two of them were going at it for quite awhile before that I think. including a bunch of very poor quality arguing.
it seemed to me like an escalation born out of frustration at poor posting/arguing by the "other".
I vaguely recall gh makin some points that were just plain wrong, and demonstrated to be wrong, but he just kept shifting the goalposts or something.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=520#10393

GH sent me this link.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 20:01:09
July 25 2018 19:51 GMT
#3436
On July 26 2018 04:07 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2018 02:03 zlefin wrote:
On July 25 2018 23:46 Seeker wrote:
Can someone explain the whole JimmiC vs GH thing to me?

I may be wrong but it seems like JimmiC just attacked GH out of the blue. And then a giant shit-storm of back and forths took place afterwards. What was JimmiC's main point? What was GH's main point?

I'm not completely clear on it; at which point was the attack?
if it's at the point I'm thinking of the two of them were going at it for quite awhile before that I think. including a bunch of very poor quality arguing.
it seemed to me like an escalation born out of frustration at poor posting/arguing by the "other".
I vaguely recall gh makin some points that were just plain wrong, and demonstrated to be wrong, but he just kept shifting the goalposts or something.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=520#10393

GH sent me this link.

I'm not sure I see the attack.
is it the soapbox point?

prior to that looks to be a whole bunch of other bad arguing by gh (but not involving talking with JimmiC, just other people)

the point I was thinking was the attack was later on by a fair bit.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
July 25 2018 20:04 GMT
#3437
GH repeatedly said he wanted evidence that since the 60s the relative gap between black and white people in the US had closed. JC responded with arguments about how the experience for black Americans had improved in absolute terms, and ignored posters who attempted to point out the discrepancy.

I don't blame GH for getting irritated when JC wouldn't stop arguing against a point GH didn't make, and the "Uncle Tom" slur was totally over the line.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 20:44:08
July 25 2018 20:43 GMT
#3438
I know some points did address relative terms, not absolute (in fact even if not by intent). including some of the very early points.
gh ignored those as well.
but I don't recall how much there was of each in detail.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2018 20:52 GMT
#3439
Please remove the conspiracy theorist from the thread, thank you. His posts have been reported.

Until he is removed, I will heartless mock him for implying Obama isn’t a US citizen.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 25 2018 21:28 GMT
#3440
a wild birther appeared, we haven't had one of those in awhile (i think)
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