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dubRa
2165 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:33 ChickenLips wrote: basically anything with idra in it is good idra mma idra mc also everything with mma If you just look at game quality idra vs mc was really bad. | ||
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:44 dubRa wrote: If you just look at game quality idra vs mc was really bad. Except that game when Idra actually macro'd. That was pretty fantastic. | ||
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
On June 07 2011 06:15 .Mthex- wrote: sigh.. that is such a let down.. that the koreans finished 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I was really hoping that we could in SOME WAY show that this game will not be dominated by koreans and foreigners can show some prowess... oh well. IdrA did when he wanted to | ||
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:32 CrayonKing wrote: Hey guys, any must see matches? Watch losira vs MC. Game 2 I believe... Not sure. Losira puts on the most pressure i've ever seen from any Zerg. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:44 dubRa wrote: If you just look at game quality idra vs mc was really bad. Yeah game quality of all the games with idra were absolutely awful except for his final loss, the first 2 games vMC were ok too, but MC obviously played under his skill level. In contrast every single MMA game was topnotch except for g1 vs losira, dunno what happened there. I still need to figure out why and how MC won that final battle vs pure stalker vs hydra infestor if that comba doesnt work.... what does lmao | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:33 KiNGxXx wrote: http://testmlg-f.akamaihd.net/SCa_HD_2500@58515?v=1.0.8.10&fp=WIN 10,3,181,14&r=YNLOF&g=IGKCSKHBULKJ&seek=24000 You can watch Idra vs MC by opening that link in the GOM player. Wow thanks man | ||
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NickelStarCraft
26 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:32 CrayonKing wrote: Hey guys, any must see matches? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #1. MMA vs Losira, game #1 of the finals, game #4 of the extended series BO7. Amazing TvZ. Illustrates bwst,, why MMA won the tournament. Dynamite TvZ. PART #1: PART #2: #2. MMA vs Idra. Game #1, Crazy game. MMA blows up his own Orbital, then Idra GG's with the game virtually won. Day9's and Wheats reaction after this game is Priceless in original VOD #3. Losira vs oGsMC, Game #3. TalDereem, MC Forge expands, Losira gets aggressive. AMAZING. REPLAY: http://www.sc-replay.com/replay/05-06-11/56904-IMLosirA-VS-oGsMC.html (Couldn't find VOD yet, but worth watching original cast with either Tastosis or Day9/Wheat if you can find it.) | ||
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Justanx
United States240 Posts
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machinus
United States288 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:33 KiNGxXx wrote: http://testmlg-f.akamaihd.net/SCa_HD_2500@58515?v=1.0.8.10&fp=WIN 10,3,181,14&r=YNLOF&g=IGKCSKHBULKJ&seek=24000 You can watch Idra vs MC by opening that link in the GOM player. How did you get this link, and why doesn't the audio work? | ||
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CellTech
Canada396 Posts
Comparing IdrA to other foreigners is like comparing Eminem to other white rappers; they both became what they are/were because they are products of their respective environments. (please pardon the indirect use of race to make a point) | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
(update still in progress. Some things may be buggy until 1745 PDT) | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On June 07 2011 08:26 CellTech wrote: Comparing IdrA to other foreigners is like comparing Eminem to other white rappers; they both became what they are/were because they are products of their respective environments. (please pardon the indirect use of race to make a point) If they're staying in the foreign scene they count as foreigners. It's not like if you go to Korea and come back bringing some extra skill/knowledge it somehow doesn't count as a gain for foreigners. It's a global world, nothing develops in a bubble any more. | ||
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CellTech
Canada396 Posts
On June 07 2011 09:04 Redmark wrote: If they're staying in the foreign scene they count as foreigners. It's not like if you go to Korea and come back bringing some extra skill/knowledge it somehow doesn't count as a gain for foreigners. It's a global world, nothing develops in a bubble any more. Let not pretend IdrA's trip to Korea lasted 1 week. He was exposed to Entus' grueling practice regime. Once you do that, you know what you have to do to remain on top. Not to mention IdrA was doing quite well on the Korean ladder. Take a guy like Incontrol, spends half his day casting, then hovering around ~150 on the North American GM ladder, then expects to do well in MLG? LOL. All these foreigners evacuating Korea as well, so they can participate in "easier" tournaments. Well, I'm happy Koreans came to MLG, and I hope they come to every other damn tournament Tyler and Geoff think they can waltz into with 6 hours practice and win free money. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 07 2011 09:04 Redmark wrote: If they're staying in the foreign scene they count as foreigners. It's not like if you go to Korea and come back bringing some extra skill/knowledge it somehow doesn't count as a gain for foreigners. It's a global world, nothing develops in a bubble any more. It took well over a year for IdrA to start winning anything when he moved in with estro and got transferred to cj entus and that was foreign tournaments. Greg was down there for well over 2 years. A guy like him only benefits from the Korean model of practice and even then it takes a long time before you see the benefits, but now he makes his own schedule he's bond to not do as well. You need to perfect your practice. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On June 07 2011 06:09 ChickenLips wrote: inca trains PvP with MC and is awful at PvP makes sense dude Man,  InCa's so bad at PVP.vZ: 0-8 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L L L L L | View Games vP: 16-3 (84.21%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W W W W W W W W | View Games  LosirA's ZVZ:vZ: 11-3 (78.57%) | Last 10 (old -> Recent): W W W W W L W W L W NesTea's ZVZ:vZ: 14-2 (87.50%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W L W W W L W Yeah, he's the son Idra's recently dropped ZVZ sets to both Zenio and Sen... I think Losira could have probably beaten him in ZVZ - obviously not guaranteed, but Losira IMO is the favored one there. (Who the crap is L? He makes using the TLPD button so annoying!)Edit: fixed with SC2 references to Losira and NesTea. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On June 07 2011 09:20 StarStruck wrote: Yes, LosriA's zvz monster too. I don't think anyone is arguing that. You really do need good practice partners at the same time who work towards the same goal. Or you need to be a true hero of the foreigners like DIMAGA - he's the one responsible for the -2 in Nestea's record!Idra, shame on you for going on tilt! You never recovered  You wouldn't have had to even PLAY MC again if you handled MMA the way we know you could have. Oh well. At least you made about a million people all go "HUUUUUUUH???" simultaneously. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
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ct2299
380 Posts
On June 06 2011 23:02 DrainX wrote: Sjow played a very even series vs MMA. MMA won 2-1 but every game was close. Without the extended series, Thorzain would have beaten MC 2-1 in the loser bracket. Thorzain didn't get the chance to play July or Moon and Naniwa didn't get the chance to play MMA so we can't be sure how that would have ended. The three Koreans played better than anyone else this weekend but I think the top foreigners can compete with them. To be honest, MC wouldn't even have HAD to play Thorzain again if it wasn't for that stupid loser's bracket stuff. Worst idea ever. I don't get why you reward someone for losing and giving them a second chance. | ||
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ct2299
380 Posts
On June 07 2011 06:18 PigglyWinks wrote: Eh.... Naniwa beat Moon comfortably. Yet didn't look close to his level in your eyes? Moon was also beaten by Slush. In fact over his 6 match-ups against foreigners Moon only managed an 8-7 record. Hardly dominant. Anyway, with Dreamhack, NASL live finals and MLG Anaheim within the next few months as well as more foreigners going to Korea, there is little reason to have this argument now as we will soon have a much larger sample size to draw better conclusions from. Congrats, the foreigners are almost the same level as a Code B guy (Moon). Reach for the stars. | ||
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