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Wuster
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 07 2011 11:36 Wuster wrote: Double elimination is great. It takes out some of the luck of the draw from tournaments. (Like Bomber and Nestea playing the Ro32 of the Super Tournament). Not when there's extended series... | ||
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Wuster
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ilmman
364 Posts
Extended series is there so that if the player at a disadvaNTAGE IS BETTer than he should win easily anyways. Take MC and idra for example.. | ||
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duk3
United States807 Posts
It really cuts down the excitement of a rematch later in the tournament. Also, the fact that the finals/semifinals are only a Bo3 is a problem as well in my opinion. | ||
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bobwhiz
United States725 Posts
Blizzard- get us some LAN, please! American internet providers, boost that infrastructure! Koreans-thanks for coming over and showing us some incredible play. You don't just implement strategies, you inflict them. Props. And thanks to TL for all the youtube support and interviews. Hotbid- you are the man! | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On June 07 2011 15:15 andrewlt wrote: It's easier to appreciate the Korean players when watching replays instead of vods. I've watched a few and the Korean player is usually at around 250 apm while the foreigner is at 170. You could sometimes see the screen fly back and forth between areas while a fight is going on. Not Jaedong-esque apm, but still enough that you could say the Koreans are going to win standard games most of the time. They were also floating less minerals and gas more often than not. I really think APM is hugely overrated. All the top pros spam. Some more than others. Watch replays of merz, that guy constantly spams 400 APM and gets his hand handed to him by SjoW with his 80 APM all the time. But (!) the Koreans are much better at multi tasking and macro. You can see MMA macro right when the banelings roll in during his big battle. I've never seen a foreigner do something like that. He really is correct when he says the difference is that Koreans view gaming as their job and that's why they are so good. They live in progaming houses and know how to train from their BW days. It's quite sad, but with the way the foreigner scene is developping at the moment, they will never be able to out-perform the Korean scene. They might be able to throw more money at the game, but unless something drastic changes: 'Koreans own white dudes' | ||
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fireproofazn
United States231 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Luckily someone already solved the problem for us! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230086¤tpage=1427#28538 (it also works in VLC which is what I'm using) | ||
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fireproofazn
United States231 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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PigglyWinks
364 Posts
On June 07 2011 11:26 ct2299 wrote: To be honest, MC wouldn't even have HAD to play Thorzain again if it wasn't for that stupid loser's bracket stuff. Worst idea ever. I don't get why you reward someone for losing and giving them a second chance. Thorzain wasn't rewarded for losing and given a second chance. He lost to MC in the group stage. And he got there by being undefeated through the entire open brackets unlike MC who got there by being famous... You really are ignorant. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2006 Posts
On June 07 2011 17:10 ChickenLips wrote: I really think APM is hugely overrated. All the top pros spam. Some more than others. Watch replays of merz, that guy constantly spams 400 APM and gets his hand handed to him by SjoW with his 80 APM all the time. But (!) the Koreans are much better at multi tasking and macro. You can see MMA macro right when the banelings roll in during his big battle. I've never seen a foreigner do something like that. He really is correct when he says the difference is that Koreans view gaming as their job and that's why they are so good. They live in progaming houses and know how to train from their BW days. It's quite sad, but with the way the foreigner scene is developping at the moment, they will never be able to out-perform the Korean scene. They might be able to throw more money at the game, but unless something drastic changes: 'Koreans own white dudes' On the korean > foreigner issue we will see at dreamhack because better foreigners and better koreans are going. If they own it up like they did at MLG then I will agree. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On June 07 2011 19:35 Aristodemus wrote: On the korean > foreigner issue we will see at dreamhack because better foreigners and better koreans are going. If they own it up like they did at MLG then I will agree. It's quite unfair for the KRs, only MC and MKP are top KR players. Meanwhile you have the best of the best from NA and EU, naama whitera idra kas nani dimaga _strelok_ happy dimaga thorzain hasu and sjow. The _only_ well-performing foreigner that is missing is Nerchio and he's still pretty unknown. On the other hand there's a vast amount of the best KRs missing, like mvp mma alicia polt top sc _bomber_ losira and ganzi. If you assemble an all-stars team from both teams, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the KRs would win. Regardless from that I predict that MC will be top2 and MKP top 4. I really don't agree with inviting inca anypro FD and nada, the first 2 aren't good and the second 2 don't practice enough to make a significant impact | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
On June 07 2011 19:28 PigglyWinks wrote: Thorzain wasn't rewarded for losing and given a second chance. He lost to MC in the group stage. And he got there by being undefeated through the entire open brackets unlike MC who got there by being famous... You really are ignorant. MC is famous for being successful at starcraft... | ||
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Aristodemus
England2006 Posts
On June 07 2011 20:25 ChickenLips wrote: It's quite unfair for the KRs, only MC and MKP are top KR players. Meanwhile you have the best of the best from NA and EU, naama whitera idra kas nani dimaga _strelok_ happy dimaga thorzain hasu and sjow. The _only_ well-performing foreigner that is missing is Nerchio and he's still pretty unknown. On the other hand there's a vast amount of the best KRs missing, like mvp mma alicia polt top sc _bomber_ losira and ganzi. If you assemble an all-stars team from both teams, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the KRs would win. Regardless from that I predict that MC will be top2 and MKP top 4. I really don't agree with inviting inca anypro FD and nada, the first 2 aren't good and the second 2 don't practice enough to make a significant impact I think they have been naming almost on a team by team basis, I hope Nestea and MVP will be named in the next group. Pretty sure Nerchio will be in there too. Seems weird you included Naama in that list though lol. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On June 07 2011 20:47 ZAiNs wrote: Dear MLG: Naniwa vs. Slush replays are not uploaded .Yeah I really want to see those too, how was slush able to take Nani 2-1 right after Nani crushed moon 2-0?? | ||
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