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On October 29 2010 09:22 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 29 2010 09:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: I think if it came down to it I would vote for Pandain. Bumatlarge is mafia at least 3 out of every 4 games. He's just as likely to be mafia as you, DrH. the past is the past! people don't forget :> You gotta admit the mods always have fascinations with keeping the usual suspects on the mafia side. I wouldn't be surprised if either of you turned red. i wouldn't be surprised if anyone turned red since we're all equally likely to be red
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On October 29 2010 09:16 LunarDestiny wrote: I am indecisive between bumatlarge and Pandain.
As of now, my opinion of these two are: bumatlarge Kind of experienced Claimed he has a way of proving his innocence Ran and voted himself as mayor 1:22 after the game started. Either he is a blue role or a mafia who wish to steal mayor without much discussing with his teammates.
Pandain Experienced Demonstrated good plays in mafia games EVERYONE IS A BLUE ROLE(except for reds)
I think I will go with Pandain as I don't know too much about bumatlarge as he was killed early and too lazy to read previous games. So far, I like Pandain's playstyle.
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DoctorHelvetica voting for Bumatlarge did give out some information about their alignment.
If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia
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On October 29 2010 09:13 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 08:44 orgolove wrote: If I am voted the town mayor, I will setup a new spreadsheet. It should be much easier to maintain since it's 40 people. This is enough for me to keep from voting for you. >_<. That damn spreadsheet caused quite a bit of trouble last game...
Yeah, because it revealed you as the mafia huh. -_-
On October 29 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
orgolove is bad and shouldn't be mayor either
Mhmm. I think I had about 70% hit rate of weeding out the reds, with my only mistakes coming from people who acted real scummy that game. I'd return it to you - mistakenly killing 1 out of the 3 remaining mafia and heavily favoring the vampire's victory? -_- pretty "bad" as a host I'd say.
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Orgolove, I don't think you can stand scrutiny as a mayor, that is why I am not voting for you.
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On October 29 2010 09:28 LunarDestiny wrote: DoctorHelvetica voting for Bumatlarge did give out some information about their alignment.
If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia
So in other words, we won't really know anything.
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On October 29 2010 09:28 orgolove wrote: I'd return it to you - mistakenly killing 1 out of the 3 remaining mafia and heavily favoring the vampire's victory? -_- pretty "bad" as a host I'd say. Please none of this. It's fine to point out different behavior from different games, but supposed bias in terms of game hosting is off limits and not relevant here. I'd hate to see this derail the game.
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On October 29 2010 09:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:22 Amber[LighT] wrote:On October 29 2010 09:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 29 2010 09:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: I think if it came down to it I would vote for Pandain. Bumatlarge is mafia at least 3 out of every 4 games. He's just as likely to be mafia as you, DrH. the past is the past! people don't forget :> You gotta admit the mods always have fascinations with keeping the usual suspects on the mafia side. I wouldn't be surprised if either of you turned red. i wouldn't be surprised if anyone turned red since we're all equally likely to be red
All wifom. Speculation on what the host did, and how he chose stuff. Theres even a likely chance he just RNG'd all the roles, meaning every discussion we have about this is leading us away from real discussion. For all intents and purposes, there is a 9/39 chance he is mafia.
In addition, I think we can rule out the possibility of a third party based on this.
On October 29 2010 09:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:14 annul wrote: "This is an open setup. Roles will not be disclosed. There may or may not be a third party active in the game. The basic setup however will be 19 town-aligned players against 6 mafia players."
theres more than 25 players now
do you want to update this "basic setup" count?
ps where was it announced that there are to be no PMs in this game? Thanks for pointing that out. Player amount updated: It is 30 town-aligned players versus 9 mafia-aligned players. As for the PM thing, it is in the OP.
Mafia aligned, not just anti town or w/e. does this mean something, or is this just a general term?
On October 29 2010 09:28 LunarDestiny wrote: DoctorHelvetica voting for Bumatlarge did give out some information about their alignment.
If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia
Don't fall into this trap. Townies easily make mistakes all the time, and mafia routinely bus people if they feel like it. Really the only time something like this would have a serious effect on the player's role is if 1. He was fervently supporting him 2. He cast a deciding vote on them Even then, it could still be a townie.
He just voted for him, that's all he's done. (Vote for Pandain. Cool, calm, and collected. Sponsered by Chill.)
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Well, the information is important if one of them dies and their roles revealed or when a detective checks their alignments (throwing out the possibility of being a Godfather of course).
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All right -_- my bad about that.
Anyway, I'm highly suspicious of bumatlarge immediately voting for himself so soon after the game started, and DrH also quickly bandwagoning for him.
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On October 29 2010 09:28 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:13 Aeres wrote:On October 29 2010 08:44 orgolove wrote: If I am voted the town mayor, I will setup a new spreadsheet. It should be much easier to maintain since it's 40 people. This is enough for me to keep from voting for you. >_<. That damn spreadsheet caused quite a bit of trouble last game... Yeah, because it revealed you as the mafia huh. -_- Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
orgolove is bad and shouldn't be mayor either
Mhmm. I think I had about 70% hit rate of weeding out the reds, with my only mistakes coming from people who acted real scummy that game. I'd return it to you - mistakenly killing 1 out of the 3 remaining mafia and heavily favoring the vampire's victory? -_- pretty "bad" as a host I'd say.
ok host a game with 61 people and make no mistakes. seeing as your spreadsheet was rifled with errors from day 1 maybe you shouldn't criticize me so much
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On October 29 2010 09:35 orgolove wrote: All right -_- my bad about that.
Anyway, I'm highly suspicious of bumatlarge immediately voting for himself so soon after the game started, and DrH also quickly bandwagoning for him.
>bandwagoning
no i'm voting for him because he is currently the best/most experienced player running
who should I vote for instead? the worst player running? the most mediocre player running? the one with the coolest name?
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my opinion on who should get to be major: if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day. Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....
Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.
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I don't agree with the idea that the first supporting vote doesn't mean anything. If someone accumulates just a few votes, a bandwagon will start. The mafia would not want to help starting a bandwagon where a blue role becomes the mayor.
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Remember that people who actively try to be voted mayor are somewhat more likely to be mafia... mafia would love to get into a position where they are generally assumed to be more town-aligned.
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On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote: my opinion on who should get to be major: if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day. Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....
Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one. no
mayor has bodyguards, the bodyguards must first be killed before the mayor can die at night. lynching the mayor because he didn't die isn't the right way to go about it
typically you don't vote for a new mayor and he only chooses the first lynch and after that his only power is his votes are worth 3-5 votes
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On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote: my opinion on who should get to be major: if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day. Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....
Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.
I'm pretty sure mafia can't kill mayor until the bodygaurds are dead. However, the mayor can be lynched.
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On October 29 2010 09:38 LunarDestiny wrote: I don't agree with the idea that the first supporting vote doesn't mean anything. If someone accumulates just a few votes, a bandwagon will start. The mafia would not want to help starting a bandwagon where a blue role becomes the mayor. This is true. It's kinda hard to interpret day 1 votes without more information gained later in the game or without really analysing posting behavior well. Right now there isn't much to say but you did well pointing out the alignment probabilities if either myself or bumatlarge die.
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I have voted for myself, but please note that it's a placeholder. It will be changed upon me deciding one candidate is likely not scum, or if I think they're all scum, it won't change.
But I wanted it on the books, because it's World Series season, and I've almost forgotten to vote day 1 several times in the past
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http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roles
I suggest sifting through that and if you are not sure how to make use of yours, search about what you can do. No role is useless! Fairly safe to say we have doctor(s), vet(s), DT(s) and vigi(s). And I think it's roughly 15%(?) of players are mafia in a standard game. Mafia should have a bunch of complimentary roles considering every towny has some special ability.
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