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Eat more real food, less milk IMO.
Limit yourself to a gallon of whole milk. ~2000kcal from the milk +1500-2000kcal from real food works real well.
Although I believe milk is the cheapest thing per amount of calories you get which I guess if you're shorting on money and trying to bulk up it's cool.
How are your lifts coming along?
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On November 01 2009 06:45 Matoo- wrote: How the fuck can one blame his genetics for making him a tall male without any obesity issues? I'm the exact same size as stated in the OP (187cms / 70kgs) and I'm really happy about that. I might workout one day but it's very near the bottom of my priority list and I don't believe in any way that doing so could change my life.
This actually kinds of reminds me of the penis enlargement thread with the already 17cm+ long (and quite large as well iirc) guy getting enlarged because he believed his gfs wouldn't cheat on him anymore after that LOL. Don't mistaken me though, working out is very good, it just that I can't relate at all to both the frustrations and the hopes in this thread, despite belonging to the target audience.
er...pix or it didnt happen? probably you're built differently somehow. i made sure i was pretty clear when i described "endless sticklike knobbly arms and wrists, completely flat chest" etc etc. or maybe you're right and a combination of things make (me) worry more about my body (such as having an ugly ass face for instance). shrug
i dont think most girls care about penis size, but buffing up your body is definately a massively valid improvement , not to mention a respectful thing to do. i wouldnt like it if my girlfriend was fat and saggy - we're human beings and should acknowledge and respect that we get pleasure out of "animal" and "less intelligent" things like making ourselves look good.
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thanks for your supports (and everyone in fitness thread too)
On November 01 2009 12:49 eshlow wrote: Eat more real food, less milk IMO.
Limit yourself to a gallon of whole milk. ~2000kcal from the milk +1500-2000kcal from real food works real well.
Although I believe milk is the cheapest thing per amount of calories you get which I guess if you're shorting on money and trying to bulk up it's cool.
How are your lifts coming along?
i just paid my rent so will consider this now, although i need money for a recent holiday.
i tried to browse BB.com on my phone (dont do this if your phone is dialup LOL) and managed to find a thread where someone provided links saying that MILK calcium does NOT lead to kidney stones. will look again
my recorded lifts are below in kg. ive been gonig every 2-3 days . if ive fucked up reps/form or just gotten too tired to complete reps (which led me to reduce/split deadlifts) then i might have kept the same weight over 2 sessions (and it wont be shown below). i keep the weight so heavy that i cant possibly do more than 3x5 and will probably injure myself sometime (HAHA)
squat (3x5) smith 40 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> no smith 50
bpress (3x5) smith 32.5 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> 50 -> no smith 45
deadlift (3x5 or ~1x5) 50 -> 60 -> 65 -> 60
standing press (3x5) 25
some form of bb row that im STILL trying to get to grips with 20 -> 25
chinups 0.5
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On November 01 2009 13:48 biomedical wrote:thanks for your supports (and everyone in fitness thread too) Show nested quote +On November 01 2009 12:49 eshlow wrote: Eat more real food, less milk IMO.
Limit yourself to a gallon of whole milk. ~2000kcal from the milk +1500-2000kcal from real food works real well.
Although I believe milk is the cheapest thing per amount of calories you get which I guess if you're shorting on money and trying to bulk up it's cool.
How are your lifts coming along? i just paid my rent so will consider this now, although i need money for a recent holiday. i tried to browse BB.com on my phone (dont do this if your phone is dialup LOL) and managed to find a thread where someone provided links saying that MILK calcium does NOT lead to kidney stones. will look again my recorded lifts are below in kg. ive been gonig every 2-3 days . if ive fucked up reps/form or just gotten too tired to complete reps (which led me to reduce/split deadlifts) then i might have kept the same weight over 2 sessions (and it wont be shown below). i keep the weight so heavy that i cant possibly do more than 3x5 and will probably injure myself sometime (HAHA) squat (3x5) smith 40 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> no smith 50 bpress (3x5) smith 32.5 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> 50 -> no smith 45 deadlift (3x5 or ~1x5) 50 -> 60 -> 65 -> 60 standing press (3x5) 25 some form of bb row that im STILL trying to get to grips with 20 -> 25 chinups 0.5
Wait, you can only do half a chin up? What does this mean..
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On November 01 2009 15:16 Romance_us wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2009 13:48 biomedical wrote:thanks for your supports (and everyone in fitness thread too) On November 01 2009 12:49 eshlow wrote: Eat more real food, less milk IMO.
Limit yourself to a gallon of whole milk. ~2000kcal from the milk +1500-2000kcal from real food works real well.
Although I believe milk is the cheapest thing per amount of calories you get which I guess if you're shorting on money and trying to bulk up it's cool.
How are your lifts coming along? i just paid my rent so will consider this now, although i need money for a recent holiday. i tried to browse BB.com on my phone (dont do this if your phone is dialup LOL) and managed to find a thread where someone provided links saying that MILK calcium does NOT lead to kidney stones. will look again my recorded lifts are below in kg. ive been gonig every 2-3 days . if ive fucked up reps/form or just gotten too tired to complete reps (which led me to reduce/split deadlifts) then i might have kept the same weight over 2 sessions (and it wont be shown below). i keep the weight so heavy that i cant possibly do more than 3x5 and will probably injure myself sometime (HAHA) squat (3x5) smith 40 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> no smith 50 bpress (3x5) smith 32.5 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> 50 -> no smith 45 deadlift (3x5 or ~1x5) 50 -> 60 -> 65 -> 60 standing press (3x5) 25 some form of bb row that im STILL trying to get to grips with 20 -> 25 chinups 0.5 Wait, you can only do half a chin up? What does this mean..
means i have a long way to go LOL
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Lol I'm 5'10", 60kg (i.e. skinny like you described in the OP) and can do 20+ chinups. They're easier when you're light so gaining weight ain't going to help you there..
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Haha I was just like you first year of Uni. All those chicks and my skinny body with a gym 30 seconds away from residence... Why not?
I went to the gym... a lot. I set a goal of 15 pounds of PURE MUSCLE. I got physically stronger, I could tell... and my arms were bigger but I was still a skinny ass tall kid. Second year now and I don't even care anymore. Only been to the gym once this semester.
Good luck OP, may you have better luck than I.
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I've been tall and slim for the past 5 years. At my high school graduation I was 6'2", 185 pounds. In my first few months of college, I put on 30 pounds (!). I guess going on sheer numbers this is very significant, but it actually wasn't very visible unless my shirt was off. The fat was distributed fairly evenly among my larger frame. At the start of the semester, 2 months ago, I was back down to 200 pounds and standing at 6'4". I adopted a fairly regular workout routine but, like you, I wasn't eating very well. Lost about 10 pounds. Started taking in many more calories a few weeks ago, and I've since noticed I am getting a bit more muscle definition. I don't plan on changing drastically, but if I can put those 10 pounds back on (as muscle this time), I'll be happy.
Damn you guys are skinny. I suppose 185-190 pounds doesn't qualify even as "slim" in comparison, but this is how people always refer to me. I suppose it's technically an average weight- maybe there's something about my frame/clothes that makes me look slimmer than I am? Maybe I hang out with fat people? lol
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On November 01 2009 13:32 biomedical wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2009 06:45 Matoo- wrote: How the fuck can one blame his genetics for making him a tall male without any obesity issues? I'm the exact same size as stated in the OP (187cms / 70kgs) and I'm really happy about that. I might workout one day but it's very near the bottom of my priority list and I don't believe in any way that doing so could change my life.
This actually kinds of reminds me of the penis enlargement thread with the already 17cm+ long (and quite large as well iirc) guy getting enlarged because he believed his gfs wouldn't cheat on him anymore after that LOL. Don't mistaken me though, working out is very good, it just that I can't relate at all to both the frustrations and the hopes in this thread, despite belonging to the target audience. er...pix or it didnt happen? probably you're built differently somehow. i made sure i was pretty clear when i described "endless sticklike knobbly arms and wrists, completely flat chest" etc etc. or maybe you're right and a combination of things make (me) worry more about my body (such as having an ugly ass face for instance). shrug i dont think most girls care about penis size, but buffing up your body is definately a massively valid improvement , not to mention a respectful thing to do. i wouldnt like it if my girlfriend was fat and saggy - we're human beings and should acknowledge and respect that we get pleasure out of "animal" and "less intelligent" things like making ourselves look good. I don't look buff at all but of course it would be definitely better if it was the case, there's no arguing about it.
The point is that I don't believe that just getting buffed up is the single key to success, other things like buying clothes that look good and match your morphology, taking care of your skin, getting your teeth whitened / straightened, or even getting some surgery (like a penis enlargment LOL... or maybe not), and all the other stuff I forget to mention here add up to a greater total imo than how buffed up you are. They also require much less time everyday and won't vanish after a few months like a buffed up body will if you stop working out for some reason. (Btw, I'm not advocating anyone to get surgery or anything, I never took one myself, I'm just listing it as one of the multiple means to look better.)
This isn't a negative comment towards working out at all, like I said I might very well do it someday and it's definitely better to be buff. The main point is that if your goal is to look better overall then you should definitely keep working out but also start paying attention to the others factors because they matter at least as much as being buff. I mean just look at the pictures of the guy in the previous page, we don't even see his chest or whatever but he looks much better because his hair is better and his beard makes him look manlier and his head posture makes him look more confident and so on. (And also because the first picture is terrible anyway).
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Woo, I'm on my way of becoming heavier too. I once had muscles, now I want them back!
Started eating a lot more, and training every other day. Even though it's only like two weeks, there's lots of improvements.
Keep up the good work, OP, just don't exaggerate with milk, eat something normal too.
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On November 01 2009 13:48 biomedical wrote:thanks for your supports (and everyone in fitness thread too) Show nested quote +On November 01 2009 12:49 eshlow wrote: Eat more real food, less milk IMO.
Limit yourself to a gallon of whole milk. ~2000kcal from the milk +1500-2000kcal from real food works real well.
Although I believe milk is the cheapest thing per amount of calories you get which I guess if you're shorting on money and trying to bulk up it's cool.
How are your lifts coming along? i just paid my rent so will consider this now, although i need money for a recent holiday. i tried to browse BB.com on my phone (dont do this if your phone is dialup LOL) and managed to find a thread where someone provided links saying that MILK calcium does NOT lead to kidney stones. will look again my recorded lifts are below in kg. ive been gonig every 2-3 days . if ive fucked up reps/form or just gotten too tired to complete reps (which led me to reduce/split deadlifts) then i might have kept the same weight over 2 sessions (and it wont be shown below). i keep the weight so heavy that i cant possibly do more than 3x5 and will probably injure myself sometime (HAHA) squat (3x5) smith 40 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> no smith 50 bpress (3x5) smith 32.5 -> 45 -> 47.5 -> 50 -> no smith 45 deadlift (3x5 or ~1x5) 50 -> 60 -> 65 -> 60 standing press (3x5) 25 some form of bb row that im STILL trying to get to grips with 20 -> 25 chinups 0.5
if you're going to do starting strength dont modify it man just do it, there's no reason to change something that works based on your limited knowledge. Keep your schedule regular, go mon/wed/fri or tues/thurs/sat or whatever just dont mess around with the days. Oh and also NEVER USE THE SMITH MACHINE. i cannot stress enough how much this will fuck you up, when i started lifting for the first 5-6 months i was using the smith, and when i switched over to Starting Strength it took me like 2 months to correct my bench press technique because of all the bad habits i had picked up from the smith. Starting strength is a great program and if you follow it well you're gonna have success, I've made great gains on it in strength and in size so keep it up and GL
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On October 31 2009 12:27 biomedical wrote:
it might take a lot longer for us to "fill up" because we are boney and tall. but our POTENTIAL is AWESOME...because we are TALL!!!! our metre long wrists might take 3x as long to bulk up compared to a small guy, but we will look damn more bigger and more impressive when we FINALLY DO.
uhhh...what if we are 5' 5'' and weigh 120 pounds meaning we are skinny and lanky but NOT tall....
...am I a lost cause?
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also @ OP:
consuming that much whole milk, you might wanna go to your doctor and get your baseline lipids and cholesterol checked and then just follow up every 6 months.
Better to eat a bunch of low fat meat (skinless chicken, grilled lean beef, etc) imo.
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Just eat a lot and lift weights.
Fucking shovel calories down your throat and do compound lifts.
Look up a proper bulking diet on a forum such as: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/
It's that easy.
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Power to the skinny dudes!
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take it slow dude. as long as you gradually increase your caloric intake per week and hit the gym (with an appropriate program in mind) on a consistent basis you will gain weight in the long run.
suddenly adding 5.5 liters of milk/day to your diet will have you puking your guts out one day and giving up.
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