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On June 13 2023 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 16:18 DarthPunk wrote:On June 13 2023 16:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 13 2023 16:14 DarthPunk wrote:On June 13 2023 16:11 Alakaslam wrote:
It really is true that TTT was a bit obtuse at times last game, usefully enough to keep them around in fact.
Generally very clear headed though, not sure I want to lose that . Though we may have already I don’t think he is the lynch. I’d like to flip vayoletta or Copcake. scum. just fucking scum Your associative reads are really bad this game. this has nothing to do with association. regardless of TTT's alignment you are most likely mafia. Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 16:17 DarthPunk wrote:
This guy is one of the most argumentative people I know. And he does that shit in irl mafia too. So as exactly TOWN he gives up, not as MAFIA????????? so gives up when he has all the time in the world to address the case he knows is not right would not give up if the case is right and there is no way out that's what youre saying?
Yes 100 percent this guy works in engagement and drops things all the time based on if he is engaged by it or not.
When he is mafia in this situation he would be engaged with trying to deceive and survive.
When he is town he is engaged by catching mafia and prosecuting cases so when he gives up post some reads etc it makes me think town.
I could be getting hoodwinked by him here. But I think it would be next level.
If you wanna call me mafia for not agreeing with you go right ahead.
If I used that exact thought process I would have called you mafia for defending Copcake for dubious reasons long ago and not really engaging with the evidence against her.
There we are.
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On June 13 2023 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Your case wasn’t as good or obvious as you seem to think it was. fine. defend him then.
I’ve already said what was compelling and ignored the rest.
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By the way Rayn I can tell you 1000 percent why I am not mafia and if you think I am you are bad.
If I was mafia I would pocket you from the start of the game and would not be disagreeing with you whatsoever.
Because I know you are liable to fly off the handle like this.
But I don’t care.
Cause I’m town
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On June 13 2023 16:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 13 2023 16:18 DarthPunk wrote:On June 13 2023 16:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 13 2023 16:14 DarthPunk wrote:On June 13 2023 16:11 Alakaslam wrote:
It really is true that TTT was a bit obtuse at times last game, usefully enough to keep them around in fact.
Generally very clear headed though, not sure I want to lose that . Though we may have already I don’t think he is the lynch. I’d like to flip vayoletta or Copcake. scum. just fucking scum Your associative reads are really bad this game. this has nothing to do with association. regardless of TTT's alignment you are most likely mafia. On June 13 2023 16:17 DarthPunk wrote:
This guy is one of the most argumentative people I know. And he does that shit in irl mafia too. So as exactly TOWN he gives up, not as MAFIA????????? so gives up when he has all the time in the world to address the case he knows is not right would not give up if the case is right and there is no way out that's what youre saying? Yes 100 percent this guy works in engagement and drops things all the time based on if he is engaged by it or not. When he is mafia in this situation he would be engaged with trying to deceive and survive.
You know, i havea huge problem here. Because like 10 minutes ago you were with me, and TTT drops a boo-hoo post (which in general i absolutely hate, either fucking play to your best or not play at all) you're all in "i know 100% meta i know rayn is wrong". It feels wrong as hell.
When he is town he is engaged by catching mafia and prosecuting cases so when he gives up post some reads etc it makes me think town.
has he been? i dont think he has.
I could be getting hoodwinked by him here. But I think it would be next level.
If you wanna call me mafia for not agreeing with you go right ahead.
I wanna call you mafia for first agreeing with me, and then do fucking full 180 for some random bs post a 6yr old could do when being under real pressure.
If I used that exact thought process I would have called you mafia for defending Copcake for dubious reasons long ago and not really engaging with the evidence against her.
There we are.
fine, call me mafia. my reasons were not dubious, go call them dubious and provide evidence please so we can see what the actual evidence says.
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I didn’t say 100 percent meta cleared.
I told you there is a chance I was being manipulated it’s in the post I wrote.
I just think he would never make that post as mafia based on what I know of him.
I understand that you don’t like it. What do you want me to do? That is what I think. I don’t want to lynch him because I’m my mind he is more likely to flip town than mafia.
If he tricked me, the same way ve did. Sure.
But I have to do what I think is correct
Further, the reason I am not calling you mafia for your dumb shit with cc is because I don’t think it makes you mafia.
If you are town and you really think I am mafia for this you really have a weakness with things not going your way. Just like koshi.
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there is no dumb shit regarding cc.
if you think there is please rehash your points and make them more clear because i cant see it.
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The fact that he hasn’t been engaged in scum hunting as town is a good point against him but as was said with cc, it could be the fact he was copping attacks from people and has been more on the back foot then last game.
Either way I think it will become evident over time one way or another which I have said last game and this game.
The waffle with cc. Is a good technical point, that could be town trying to figure shit out waffle.
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On June 13 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
there is no dumb shit regarding cc.
if you think there is please rehash your points and make them more clear because i cant see it.
Fine.
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On June 13 2023 16:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
there is no dumb shit regarding cc.
if you think there is please rehash your points and make them more clear because i cant see it. Fine.
1.) tunnel forms straight away from this+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?
This is very scummy because:
a.) townies usually take some time to orient themselves in the game and form strong opinions and her progression on me does not reflect natural doubt, suspicion and time to process information.
and;
b.) Her read on me does not change with additional information despite asking a lot of questions, they do not lead anywhere or cause her to consider anything except to call me a liar and or mafia and or terrible.
She is acting in a way that attempts to demonstrate information gathering but does not actually do anything with the information.
2.) she didn't form opinions and actively avoided sharing her reads when directly asked, BEFORE SHE WAS UNDER PRESSURE
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different? On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.
What do you think?
On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different? On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? Why is slam town? Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one.
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different? On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn.
She avoided explaining her town read on rayn
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is? Why was he mafia? I think he is town Why do you think he is town
On June 09 2023 17:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is? Why was he mafia? I think he is town Why do you think he is town
On June 09 2023 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:31 CopCake wrote:
I think, and HOPE that clarifies the whole lunch and cake can't read what Dart posted btw. But there is still the question why am i town?
She lied about when her focus on me started Claiming:
On June 10 2023 18:29 CopCake wrote:
My focus on DP went how fast he jumped on me with the “ooofff” comment.
except the focus on me started before this, this was in fact reaction to a post quoting me after she had started tunneling immediately.
3.) Almost all of her filter is about me or talking about me, she did not do any scum hunting, she did not have any other mafia reads not in relation to me.
This is not how town tunnel. TTT and I tunnelled marv last game, we still scumhunted and made reads in the thread.
Copcake is not trying to determine who the mafia in the game are, all she does is give quick town reads for tenuous reasons.
until I call her out on this and she makes this list post:
On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:
Ok, this is tiresome.
Top town
LS
Rayn
DP (for mechanics)
Slam
MZ (after reading his filter correctly, his LS case is chef kiss but he is town, still his progression is fluid)
Vivax has some reads similar as me and he called out DP when he suggested that LS fake claimed, last game there were only two blues so I doubt there would be more? I think DP just find scummy things (I mean LS looked scummy in the case MZ made if you take out the tone read)
Mid tones
Marv: I think rayn has been more vocal than DP so his read is ????????????
Mafia
Vayoletta: I am sorry but you asked if I was able to do a poker face but your reads seem mostly… “tone”? It is the first time we play together this so I would be more wary if I was you.
Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.
TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)
I also think TTT and Vayoletta team would make perfect sense, considering he didnt want to lynch her.
My two cents.
4.) her activity is directly correlated to either tunnelling me or defending against me or TTT. when I unvote to give her some space on the request of vivax she suddenly stops being nearly as active as earlier.
5.) There is nothing about her play that makes her town except emotions and anger that she herself says she could fake.
6.) She tells lies and twists facts to while falsely accusing others of doing so.
She is mafia, there is no question in my mind.
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The only reason that she stopped tunnel on me btw is that rayn basically forced her.
And I wouldn't be surprised if she called me mafia again now that rayn has.
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Also this is not OMGUS.
You see I have a perk that makes me look scummy as town, and I play into that and watch as the scum throw themselves at me calling me mafia.
It's a really effective way of catching mafia as the town players will often find the reasons I am town, but the mafia get caught up on stupid shit and start tunnelling me: See LS last game.
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I dont think DP and TTT are mafia together. DP unvote me because he believed I had a point, he could have easily said that “TTT does this, is his meta, it doesnt work like that”.
Specially since he really wants to grill me.
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Btw I am not town cleared by rayn, he thinks that only vivax and LS are his 10000% town reads.
Other people are having additional reads on chezinu and marv.
I could lynch marv, I think I made a mistake on chezinu.
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On June 13 2023 19:19 CopCake wrote:
Btw I am not town cleared by rayn, he thinks that only vivax and LS are his 10000% town reads.
Other people are having additional reads on chezinu and marv.
I could lynch marv, I think I made a mistake on chezinu.
Explain yourself?
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I haven’t got time to get into this DP/rayn thing rn but I will later.
rayn I’m not sure what your world view is supposed to be unless you think exactly TTT/DP/marv are mafia. Unless I misread something that’s 100% impossible
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I think I‘m comfortable with a rayn and DP town bloc for today.
Yesterday I was drunk posting, today I‘m realizing that some things never change, like losing my shit over marv‘s sky-high arrogance.
Him making reads over whether they pushed/defended DMB is still nonsense he didn‘t even bother adressing and I think DP has been exceedingly biased in how he handled him. He‘s essentially making it futile to float marv as lynch today.
I think MZs posting has deteriorated and I noticed a bunch of players saying that his posting has improved (DP, Chez I think but I need to recheck) which I can‘t agree with.
Will expand on what I think of him within this day.
Specifically I was bothered by his post about me cause I‘m not playing adhering to my tryhard meta at all times and that should show. So when someone compliments me in that way during a more fun oriented approach in order to town me it sets off red flags.
Busy for a bit but these are my good morning thoughts
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I‘m eyeballing TTT as another vote btw. They seem to be in full appeasement mode judging by their newest posts.
Only glossed over CCs readslist for now but I popped an artery when DP said he asked her for it in his new edition tunnel post.
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On June 13 2023 19:37 Vivax wrote:
I think I‘m comfortable with a rayn and DP town bloc for today.
Yesterday I was drunk posting, today I‘m realizing that some things never change, like losing my shit over marv‘s sky-high arrogance.
Him making reads over whether they pushed/defended DMB is still nonsense he didn‘t even bother adressing and I think DP has been exceedingly biased in how he handled him. He‘s essentially making it futile to float marv as lynch today.
I think MZs posting has deteriorated and I noticed a bunch of players saying that his posting has improved (DP, Chez I think but I need to recheck) which I can‘t agree with.
Will expand on what I think of him within this day.
Specifically I was bothered by his post about me cause I‘m not playing adhering to my tryhard meta at all times and that should show. So when someone compliments me in that way during a more fun oriented approach in order to town me it sets off red flags.
Busy for a bit but these are my good morning thoughts
Where have I been arrogant? I don’t get it.
I don’t get what you’re saying about DMB either?
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On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is? Why was he mafia? I think he is town Why do you think he is town Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral
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