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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
On July 27 2008 09:13 triangle wrote: Ugh, ForGG reminds me so much of Mind that it's disgusting. As for fOrGG and Mind both being totally unexpected, yes, but it seems to me that fOrGG is just getting started, while Mind is kind of unreliable. We'll see how this pans out, but I predict that forgg will accomplish more than Mind | ||
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TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
1.Forgg: fine he's the best. Watched the finas on youtube. Still can't comprehend just how badly he raped JD. 2. Jaedong: Going for OSL and MSL titles next season baby. They better start digging graves for the people in his PSL group. 3. Best: 0-3 vs July and a loss to Leta who is on fire. He is still a very strong player. Once the next season starts he will start smashing Ps and Ts again. 4. Flash: Slumping, predictable, yes that is true but he is still a very strong player. You can't write him off for having a bad month. His 3-0 over Backho shows that Flash can still thrash noobs despite his slump. 5. July: Divine PvZ in the OSL along with the golden mouse is worth the 5'th spot imo. If you think he should be higher though, put him in a bo5 against , for example, Flash who is a spot above him. Who do you think will win? 6. Kal: he is solid, he is consistent, he had a better month than Flash, however, he just isn't as good as the players above him right now except maybe July. 7. Luxury: Good player not counting his disgusting PvZ. Got the all important win and got his team into the PL finals. 8. Leta: he is on fire. 8 game win streak with 6 of them this month. Dominated Kal and Best carrying his team to the finals. 9. Lomo: Made ro8 of MSL playing great before being stopped by the best TvT in the world in a close 3-2 series. A pretty good accomplishment in my opinion. 10. Shuttle/Backho. Both had pretty good accomplishments lately, I have no idea who is the stronger player. Maybe Hwasin can stay at 10. | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On July 28 2008 09:46 Tinithor wrote: If forgg isn't #1 it will be an insult read the thread | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7743 Posts
Especially when there is a large chance he will take Jaedong down in GSL (although I guess the same could be said both ways) In a Bo5 vs BeSt, July, Kal there's no doubt who is going to win in my mind.. Flash. Luxury not included I guess (lol.) but honestly I think Lux should be 5th after BeSt | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On July 28 2008 17:18 Vasoline73 wrote: All the Flash dislike in this thread is killing me. The guy is a fantastic player who is *probably* just going through a slight rough patch. While time will tell if he is really falling ala Savior, you're crazy to think he should be anything less than 3rd under Jaedong and ForGG. Especially when there is a large chance he will take Jaedong down in GSL (although I guess the same could be said both ways) In a Bo5 vs BeSt, July, Kal there's no doubt who is going to win in my mind.. Flash. Luxury not included I guess (lol.) but honestly I think Lux should be 5th after BeSt Well we can't say enything we actually have to see the Bo5s . ForGG vs Flash was the same ... Flash did 3-0'd BackHO so he is not in that bad of a shape but the final in the Intel Classic is not next Sunday so it will be on August 10 . | ||
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
On July 28 2008 09:46 Tinithor wrote: If forgg isn't #1 it will be an insult no not really. Jaedong lost to a teammate Forgg on Terran maps on his weakest matchup. Thats not a huge letdown for jaedong. Jaedong still rapes ZvP (watch his recent matchups with toss players) and his ZvZ is the best. Just because the #1 loses a few games doesn't mean he automatically becomes #2. All champions lose few games here and there. The fact that those games were very important games to his career did hurt JD, but still, Jaedong has dominated enough the past few months and brought down the end of Bisu era, taken down enough "legends", to keep his spot as #1 regardless of his loss to forgg. Have we seen ForGG's huge dominating streak similar to JD's to place him on the throne rather than JD? Whats more insulting is that the #3 game between JD and Forgg was on map Tiamat. I don't even know why they would include such an imba map on the 1st three sets. The 2nd match loss was more of Jaedong's huge lurker micro mistake than Forgg's skills. From looking at it like that, I don't see Forgg impressive enough to stand in the #1 spot. Just my opinion but I thought Power Rank ranks based on who is currently the strongest? Not about every little loss and updated daily | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
From watching the MSL finals i don't believe that JD's play was #1 material, he made bad choices every single game. This is a monthly powerrank after all and i don't see how you can dispute that ForGG was the best this month. | ||
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
On July 29 2008 02:25 Tinithor wrote: ForGG put JD to shame in that set and it was not the map that defeated JD but his own stupid choice to go all in speedlings which failed. Also, ForGG has beaten basically EVERYONE on the top 10 and done it with style. He's had the hardest path through the whole MSL and he won anyways. Just because JD used to be dominant (IE: not any more, who has he beaten thats good lately? No one, except maybe a choking Hwasin) does not mean that he still deserves the #1 spot. From watching the MSL finals i don't believe that JD's play was #1 material, he made bad choices every single game. This is a monthly powerrank after all and i don't see how you can dispute that ForGG was the best this month. ForGG beat everyone to top 10? ForGG's record vs Luxury - 1 win 1 loss, Jaedong won over Luxury vs Best - Did not face him yet vs July - 1 loss, Jaedong tied with July 2-2 vs Lomo - Did not face him yet, Jaedong raped Lomo recently vs JD - Win vs Flash - Win vs Hwasin - Win but Jaedong beat Hwasin also so much for ForGG beating EVERYONE on top 10 with style Yes this is a monthly powerrank, Forgg performed the best this month, however, I still see Jaedong as a stronger player even though this month of July, and Power Rank measures which player is stronger overall at that current month, more important than how well they've been performing, am i right? Its not Jaedong's fault that he didn't beat tough opponents lately because he hasn't had the chance to face them (except forGG) If the lineups are that way, what can the best player possibly do? The tournament is designed that way and out of the player's control ForGG putting JD to shame is a bit of exaggeration for playing on Terran maps Anyhow, this is not our dispute since this is not our powerrank, its up to Steve to make the decision | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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TarsTarkas
United States169 Posts
Think of it this way: in his MSL run, ForGG took on the one of the strongest Protoss players (Kal), the strongest Terran player (Flash, until now), and the strongest Zerg player (Jaedong, obviously). He beat them all, and on the series against Kal could be called 'close' - and TvP is supposed to be ForGG's best match up. ForGG has demonstrated himself against the toughest of all possible competition in every race, (well, he hasn't played against BeSt, but Kal is close) and he has succeeded. What more could you want from him? | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On July 29 2008 04:07 Tinithor wrote: I don't see how the maps made 1 bit of difference in those games. Yes, because maps don't matter in the choice of BOs and how easy it is to flank, or not flank, and how many expos you can obtain safely. Nope, not a bit. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
ForGG won over Kal but so did Jaedong | ||
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SpiZz
112 Posts
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TarsTarkas
United States169 Posts
On July 29 2008 09:55 Februarys wrote: Oh yes I forgot to mention Kal ForGG won over Kal but so did Jaedong Correct me if I am mistaken, but Jaedong has not played Kal in a series since the finals of last season's MSL? Can you really still count that in Jaedong's favor for your list? | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
The OSL prelims are always a bitch. There are so many rounds and qualifers for that shit. It is some nasty business. | ||
KwarK
United States41471 Posts
On July 28 2008 08:43 TheTyranid wrote: 5. July: Divine PvZ in the OSL along with the golden mouse is worth the 5'th spot imo. If you think he should be higher though, put him in a bo5 against , for example, Flash who is a spot above him. Who do you think will win? Or we could put him in a bo5 against, for example, BeSt who is two spots above him. Who do you think would win? | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On July 30 2008 06:42 Kwark wrote: Or we could put him in a bo5 against, for example, BeSt who is two spots above him. Who do you think would win? that actually depends... | ||
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